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Autumnleaves

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« on: October 04, 2011, 05:58 »

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Seems like since 123RF has reached top tier, massive rejections has taken control of the site Angry

I got files rejected which are best sellers on other agencies!!! Until that sudden up of 123RF rejections were very fair, but now, they have an automatic rejection or something


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lagereek

« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2011, 06:02 »

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Let me guess, "bad lighting" and " no commercial value", in fact what it means is that, whatever is editing can not separate between bad WB and a toned image. Also, no commercial value means= the image is too advanced, too creative for their programs or editors.

Pugh! glad Im not submitting there anymore.


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csproductions

« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2011, 06:03 »

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It's interesting that they reaced top tier. They're definitely bottom tier for me.


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CoisaX

« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2011, 06:16 »

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123RF get to top tier mainly because upload ( 7.2 I think ), so my guess is that most users that are leaving others agency's are uploading huges batchs and that means more competition.

Anyway, I notice "less acceptance" since they reach 10 million images.

I can't complain about it, because is where i have better acceptance rate, and after 2 or 3 batchs refused, i adjust and choose images that I think deserve a second chance, and normaly they accept almost of it.


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luissantos84

« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2011, 08:53 »

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no! but I do have them when I upload "borderline" pics (like someone else say here and well) they tend to go somewhere (rejected or approved)

very worth the upload.. latest 3 months above FT and DT


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lagereek

« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2011, 11:36 »

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Quote from: luissantos84 on October 04, 2011, 08:53

no! but I do have them when I upload "borderline" pics (like someone else say here and well) they tend to go somewhere (rejected or approved)

very worth the upload.. latest 3 months above FT and DT

Sorry Luis! cant resist, but that does not say very much for your DT and FT portfolios. Cheesy


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luissantos84

« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2011, 12:04 »

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Quote from: lagereek on October 04, 2011, 11:36

Quote from: luissantos84 on October 04, 2011, 08:53

no! but I do have them when I upload "borderline" pics (like someone else say here and well) they tend to go somewhere (rejected or approved)

very worth the upload.. latest 3 months above FT and DT

Sorry Luis! cant resist, but that does not say very much for your DT and FT portfolios. Cheesy

not that I needed to answer but I will let other know

(of course that´s a few hours for you but hey thats what I can manage)

123RF - 100 (91.37$) 110 (70.28$), 120 (89.49$)
DT - 73 (49.60$), 74 (56.74$), 73 (66.27$)
FT - 89 (57.54$), 61(41.70$), 100 (81.28$)


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Anglee

« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2011, 21:35 »

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Quote from: Autumnleaves on October 04, 2011, 05:58

Seems like since 123RF has reached top tier, massive rejections has taken control of the site Angry

I got files rejected which are best sellers on other agencies!!! Until that sudden up of 123RF rejections were very fair, but now, they have an automatic rejection or something

Hey Autumnleaves,

Thanks for the headsup.

Kindly email your UID and rejected images code to [email protected] so that our reviewers can re-evaluate them.

Thanks for your patience.

Many thanks,
Angelina


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frozensage

« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2011, 09:50 »

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Most of my photos got accepted for editorial, does this mean the photos are not good enough? what's the reasoning behind them going editorial? The same ones have been accepted on iStock and Fotolia...


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wut

« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2011, 10:02 »

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Quote from: Autumnleaves on October 04, 2011, 05:58

Seems like since 123RF has reached top tier, massive rejections has taken control of the site Angry

I got files rejected which are best sellers on other agencies!!! Until that sudden up of 123RF rejections were very fair, but now, they have an automatic rejection or something

Indeed, I'd use the same words to describe it. They rejected about a third of the submitted photos, while I had an acceptance rate of way over 90% up until now. And it could be almost 100% if they didn't reject a whole batch for copyright issues, the only agency that did that - and I resubmitted then because of that reason and the same thing happened again.

Well I won't even bother resubmitting, I won't even worry anymore. I can understand that in some cases these agencies that recently became big need to learn a few things, hire better reviewers etc, it's normal they have some catching up to do and that success got into their heads. Overall, I still like 123RF and consider them one of the best agencies when I exclude SS.


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Eco

« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2011, 10:17 »

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Quote from: Anglee on October 05, 2011, 21:35

Kindly email your UID and rejected images code to [email protected] so that our reviewers can re-evaluate them.

I tried this option twice and did not even get a response. Is there any other procedure that I need to follow, like posting here first?


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gemmy12

« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2011, 10:58 »

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Quote from: Eco on November 12, 2011, 10:17

Quote from: Anglee on October 05, 2011, 21:35

Kindly email your UID and rejected images code to [email protected] so that our reviewers can re-evaluate them.

I tried this option twice and did not even get a response. Is there any other procedure that I need to follow, like posting here first?

This is the worst thing i felt for 123RF, I am new in microstock sites and I had few doubts about submission and ID profs etc . I sent 4-5 mails to their customer care but they did not care to reply me even once. LoL. At the same time ST,FT and even IS replied me personally,specially ST replied my 5 mails and I am really satisfied for their works.
But yeah my 13 pix out of 15 were selected in 123RF so for me reviewer are better than customer care of them. lol
But are the photographs viewed and sold in 123RF...!!! I really doubt sometime. Can anyone share me his experience about selling photos there ?


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rinderart

« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2011, 00:47 »

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I rejoined after dumping them 2 years ago. sent 1500 known sellers. 400 were rejected for above reasons which was total BS. I contacted [email protected] and they took care of it and he seems like a nice understanding Guy. I don't know what reviewing team they have or who they want but some are obviously WAY Off Base. They are NOT a top 4 site in any real poll. And Who votes here Im sorry to say doesn't hold to much weight. We'll just have to wait and see for ourselves. I hope they come back, It an easy upload process but there staff needs some schooling in Lighting and commercial value.


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Mantis

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« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2011, 09:25 »

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Quote from: rinderart on November 13, 2011, 00:47

So do SS inspectors.


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Wim

« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2011, 14:44 »

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rinderart

« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2011, 12:26 »

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Also...And let me add. A nice well exposed pretty shot of a mountain in arizona does not need a property release. Thats off the chart silly.


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briciola

« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2011, 12:30 »

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Quote from: rinderart on November 17, 2011, 12:26

Also...And let me add. A nice well exposed pretty shot of a mountain in arizona does not need a property release. Thats off the chart silly.

probably a mis click?


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CoisaX

« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2011, 13:07 »

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Quote from: rinderart on November 17, 2011, 12:26

Also...And let me add. A nice well exposed pretty shot of a mountain in arizona does not need a property release. Thats off the chart silly.

It appears to be an "common error" and I would send it back for revision.

That happen with all agencies, and, without mention agencies names, some of the funniest reasons of refused photos:

- Lunge - X-Ray -> Trademark/logo ( dam.. x-ray machine see any trademark on patient LOL )
- "half" Medium voltage pole against sky -> no property release ( with more than 20 poles already online.. why this one have owner? Or I shoot God's cloud? )


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StockCube

« Reply #18 on: November 24, 2011, 05:05 »

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I have exactly the same issue with them. It is stupid and frustrating and makes me feel that I know a good deal more about photography than the reviewer, which does not give me any faith in the company at all.

I had a series of images of prehistoric standing stones rejected for not having a release and accepted as editorial instead. I think that given that the guy who made them has likely been dead for around 5,000 years the odds of hearing from his lawyers are somewhat slim.

Its just plain silly. I have also had large numbers of best sellers rejected. I'm sorry, but I shouldn't have to resubmit or contact support about this - the inspectors should know better. They are definitely bottom tier for me, mostly because I cant be bothered putting up with this incompetence.


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Anglee

« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2011, 21:27 »

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Hey All,

Please email your UID to [email protected] so that we can re-evaluate your rejected images.

Thanks and Warm Regards,
Anglee


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Micro1

« Reply #20 on: November 25, 2011, 03:11 »

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These guys are awesome! They take 98% of what i send.
B.M.E. too.


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« Reply #21 on: November 25, 2011, 03:34 »

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Quote from: Micro1 on November 25, 2011, 03:11

B.M.E. too.

BME? This isn't the Dreamstime forum. You can whine! Wink


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Micro1

« Reply #22 on: November 25, 2011, 03:41 »

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Hehe, seriously, B.M.E. two months in a row - and this month isn't over Wink


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Microbius

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« Reply #23 on: November 25, 2011, 05:39 »

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Never had a problem with their reviews.
They are now top 4 for me and many other pros.


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StockCube

« Reply #24 on: November 28, 2011, 15:14 »

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Many thanks Anglee, will do.


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