Author Topic: Sales (Read 19668 times)

Pauws99 · « **on:** September 28, 2016, 02:30 »

Having terrible run of no sales is it just me and I'm having a bad run or maybe there a problem with the site

Steveball · « **Reply #1 on:** September 28, 2016, 05:15 »

Same here, about 50% down on normal.

Brightontl · « **Reply #2 on:** September 28, 2016, 05:18 »

I have about 400 video clips waiting for review.
I hope when I reach 1,000 I will get a nice price...
Are they still interested in video footage?

estike · « **Reply #3 on:** September 28, 2016, 05:20 »

No sales this months

Mantis · « **Reply #4 on:** September 28, 2016, 05:20 »

Quote from: Pauws99 on September 28, 2016, 02:30

Having terrible run of no sales is it just me and I'm having a bad run or maybe there a problem with the site

Me too. Been making about $200 a month on 123 but today I am at $63 with just three days to go.

Ploink · « **Reply #5 on:** September 28, 2016, 05:32 »

Usually I have at least one sale per day on 123RF, but this month there is a "hole" in my statistics with no sales from 15th to 25th...

Also they paid me on time (15th or 16th), but the earning stats reflected this payment only ten days later. So I strongly suspect they had a major issue with their database. Can't say if there haven't been any sales, or if they just haven't been reported...

dpimborough · « **Reply #6 on:** September 28, 2016, 05:46 »

6 bucks compared to $9 last month with 1500 images it's beyond pathetic

Pauws99 · « **Reply #7 on:** September 28, 2016, 05:52 »

Nothing since 22nd......after best month (august) in ages

Bauman · « **Reply #8 on:** September 28, 2016, 06:00 »

Mmm ... September is average for me, but 123 has the best performance in 2016 compared to 2015.

Earnings from 123 in 2016 are 6,39% of my total. In 2015 were 4,82%.

AlexRvan · « **Reply #9 on:** September 28, 2016, 06:31 »

I'm seeing growth for the past 3 months. This has been a BME for me, but my port is small, less than 1000 images.

Nica · « **Reply #10 on:** September 28, 2016, 07:03 »

Quote from: Brightontl on September 28, 2016, 05:18

I have about 400 video clips waiting for review.
I hope when I reach 1,000 I will get a nice price...
Are they still interested in video footage?

I submitted in April and it was reviewed in September

alno · « **Reply #11 on:** September 28, 2016, 09:15 »

8 downloads in September, $26 total.
Started there in June, 3290 clips and 108 images. Images were added in August. Definitely feels like photo stock agency.

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #12 on:** September 28, 2016, 09:29 »

123rf has been pretty consistent but this month is beyond abysmal.

I've had some weekdays without sales which is really strange as we head into the busier season. I wondered if they were starting to circle the drain - I have some images uploaded 2 weeks ago that haven't been reviewed, but they were slow in that regard back in the spring when sales were fine.

I had checked a few searches earlier in the month to see if my images had been hit by a change in default search results, but I didn't see that. As others are seeing an unusually bad month, perhaps it is them, not us

Stock Wife · « **Reply #13 on:** September 28, 2016, 09:46 »

It's funny for me to see people comment that 123 is consistent for them because it is my 'streakiest' site. We sometimes go weeks without sales and then will go days with way above average sales. My September is looking to be as good as August from a bird's eye view.

PinHead · « **Reply #14 on:** September 28, 2016, 09:49 »

So, i'm doing much better than u people ...2800 clips = 83 $ (6 sales in sep)...53$ (3 sales in aug)

Pauws99 · « **Reply #15 on:** September 28, 2016, 10:23 »

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on September 28, 2016, 09:29

123rf has been pretty consistent but this month is beyond abysmal.

I've had some weekdays without sales which is really strange as we head into the busier season. I wondered if they were starting to circle the drain - I have some images uploaded 2 weeks ago that haven't been reviewed, but they were slow in that regard back in the spring when sales were fine.

I had checked a few searches earlier in the month to see if my images had been hit by a change in default search results, but I didn't see that. As others are seeing an unusually bad month, perhaps it is them, not us

I'm not a big player so its hard to know if its an error or bad sales...just seems strange to get consecutive days of nothing. 123 has always done relatively well for me

Zero Talent · « **Reply #16 on:** September 28, 2016, 10:43 »

123 improved from under 4% of my revenue, up to 5.2% this year.

PixelBytes · « **Reply #17 on:** September 28, 2016, 13:46 »

I'm on the top tier at 123. Usually make around $400/month. This month below $150. Worst Month I've had in years there and happened all of a sudden. Not a gradual decline.

Asthebelltolls · « **Reply #18 on:** September 28, 2016, 13:53 »

Good August. Bad September. Would've thought it'd be the other way around.....

Zero Talent · « **Reply #19 on:** September 28, 2016, 14:35 »

Quote from: PixelBytes on September 28, 2016, 13:46

I'm on the top tier at 123. Usually make around $400/month. This month below $150. Worst Month I've had in years there and happened all of a sudden. Not a gradual decline.

What do you mean by top tier? Level 10 with more than 1,000,000 credits per year?

PixelBytes · « **Reply #20 on:** September 28, 2016, 14:42 »

Quote from: Zero Talent on September 28, 2016, 14:35

Quote from: PixelBytes on September 28, 2016, 13:46
I'm on the top tier at 123. Usually make around $400/month. This month below $150. Worst Month I've had in years there and happened all of a sudden. Not a gradual decline.

What do you mean by top tier? Level 10 with more than 1,000,000 credits per year?

Level 5 I believe. That was the level where they didn't drop earnings % when they went to the level system. I didn't know they went higher. Anybody know someone higher than 5?

Noedelhap · « **Reply #21 on:** September 28, 2016, 15:11 »

Both August and September I experienced very bad sales, mostly subs. About 60% down from June and July.

fotografer · « **Reply #22 on:** September 28, 2016, 16:04 »

I usually make about 200$ a month and haven't hit 90$ yet this month.

fotografer · « **Reply #23 on:** September 28, 2016, 16:06 »

I just looked and September was my worst month last year and one of the worst the year before. Not such a big drop as this year though.

estike · « **Reply #24 on:** September 28, 2016, 17:01 »

There must be a bug in their earning report. Microstock Analytics and Stockstats reported same amount of earnings. These earnings are not shown in the earning report of 123rf.

Dodie · « **Reply #25 on:** September 29, 2016, 05:47 »

Quote from: PixelBytes on September 28, 2016, 14:42

Quote from: Zero Talent on September 28, 2016, 14:35
Quote from: PixelBytes on September 28, 2016, 13:46
I'm on the top tier at 123. Usually make around $400/month. This month below $150. Worst Month I've had in years there and happened all of a sudden. Not a gradual decline.

What do you mean by top tier? Level 10 with more than 1,000,000 credits per year?

Level 5 I believe. That was the level where they didn't drop earnings % when they went to the level system. I didn't know they went higher. Anybody know someone higher than 5?

Top level is 10 with 1000k credits/last 12 month, as Zero Talent said. I gasped for air when I read you are level 10, but it motivated me to upload more. Is level 10 even possible?

Btw. anybody knows how many credits are videos worth, I couldn't find that info?

BaldricksTrousers · « **Reply #26 on:** September 29, 2016, 06:23 »

Dismal this month. Worst for years.

emblem · « **Reply #27 on:** September 29, 2016, 22:31 »

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on September 29, 2016, 06:23

Dismal this month. Worst for years.

Same here...wonder why?

Pauws99 · « **Reply #28 on:** September 30, 2016, 01:12 »

Finally got sales reported yesterday after dismal run of 7 blank days........

Justanotherphotographer · « **Reply #29 on:** September 30, 2016, 01:34 »

Quote from: PixelBytes on September 28, 2016, 14:42

Quote from: Zero Talent on September 28, 2016, 14:35
Quote from: PixelBytes on September 28, 2016, 13:46
I'm on the top tier at 123. Usually make around $400/month. This month below $150. Worst Month I've had in years there and happened all of a sudden. Not a gradual decline.

What do you mean by top tier? Level 10 with more than 1,000,000 credits per year?

Level 5 I believe. That was the level where they didn't drop earnings % when they went to the level system. I didn't know they went higher. Anybody know someone higher than 5?

I am level 6. This month has been fine so far.

Open_ · « **Reply #30 on:** September 30, 2016, 04:05 »

Quote from: Brightontl on September 28, 2016, 05:18

I have about 400 video clips waiting for review.
I hope when I reach 1,000 I will get a nice price...
Are they still interested in video footage?

The video review is on request by the contributor, means your video will not be review until you ask them to review. why? because 123rf runs by the idiots.

Noedelhap · « **Reply #31 on:** September 30, 2016, 04:20 »

Quote from: Open_ on September 30, 2016, 04:05

Quote from: Brightontl on September 28, 2016, 05:18
I have about 400 video clips waiting for review.
I hope when I reach 1,000 I will get a nice price...
Are they still interested in video footage?

The video review is on request by the contributor, means your video will not be review until you ask them to review. why? because 123rf runs by the idiots.

Wait, what? My videos were reviewed automatically by 123RF, so what are you talking about?

Video-StockOrg · « **Reply #32 on:** September 30, 2016, 04:52 »

Sales on 123rf with about 5000 video files are catastrophe... we don't even get to $100 a month. And for some reason about thousand files are still pending for review more than a month. September sales are $5.

Dumc · « **Reply #33 on:** September 30, 2016, 05:11 »

My sales are pretty much as usual, maybe slightly better than average...

Minsc · « **Reply #34 on:** September 30, 2016, 13:39 »

Sales at 123rf has picked up recently. It's up 30% from August.

suwanneeredhead · « **Reply #35 on:** September 30, 2016, 19:03 »

I find this trend across all my microstock sites.

I think it's because Google is scraping the images and allowing people to right-click to take them -- there are other threads about this -- I don't think its just coincidence that those 2 things happened at the same time.

Minsc · « **Reply #36 on:** October 01, 2016, 11:47 »

Quote from: suwanneeredhead on September 30, 2016, 19:03

I find this trend across all my microstock sites.

I think it's because Google is scraping the images and allowing people to right-click to take them -- there are other threads about this -- I don't think its just coincidence that those 2 things happened at the same time.

Google, Yahoo and Bing has been doing this since 2012. And outside of Getty, other agency images comes with watermarks.

Don't worry about the search engines. Focus on creating content that buyers will buy.

dbvirago · « **Reply #37 on:** October 29, 2016, 18:57 »

After a decent year, October at 123 was my worst month in over 2 years.

lima · « **Reply #38 on:** October 30, 2016, 09:14 »

Mine too!! really bad sale this month on 123rf $:-\$

Quote from: Darryl Brooks on October 29, 2016, 18:57

After a decent year, October at 123 was my worst month in over 2 years.

Dumc · « **Reply #39 on:** October 30, 2016, 14:11 »

My sales for the last few months have been better than usual....

HalfFull · « **Reply #40 on:** October 30, 2016, 15:15 »

Quote from: Dumc on October 30, 2016, 14:11

My sales for the last few months have been better than usual....

Same here.

Pauws99 · « **Reply #41 on:** October 30, 2016, 15:17 »

Quote from: HalfFull on October 30, 2016, 15:15

Quote from: Dumc on October 30, 2016, 14:11
My sales for the last few months have been better than usual....

Same here.

I had one really bad month but things going quite nicely now swings and roundabouts one bad month does not equal disaster

dbvirago · « **Reply #42 on:** October 30, 2016, 17:06 »

Quote from: Dumc on October 30, 2016, 14:11

My sales for the last few months have been better than usual....

Well, that's good. I'd rather it be a fluke with my port than a general downturn due to bad marketing, etc.

pancaketom · « **Reply #43 on:** October 30, 2016, 22:44 »

I'm about 1/7 of last month (which was a good month for them) and maybe 1/4 of what passes for normal there now. I have been having multiple week days in a row with no sales or just one measly sub. It is pretty sad and still a far cry from the promised doubling of sales.

I am also sad to see the useful information that was available in the old contributor pages gone.

Zero Talent · « **Reply #44 on:** November 01, 2016, 09:52 »

Very good month! Happy to finally get the promotion to level 5!

fotografer · « **Reply #45 on:** November 02, 2016, 03:25 »

I used to be level 5 and just noticed that I am now at level 4 !!

Brightontl · « **Reply #46 on:** November 02, 2016, 06:59 »

Quote from: Zero Talent on November 01, 2016, 09:52

Very good month! Happy to finally get the promotion to level 5!

Is it mainly photos or it includes footage as well?
In other words, is it worth at all uploading video here (assuming that they would one day review it)?

Mantis · « **Reply #47 on:** November 02, 2016, 08:56 »

My sales still show zero. I emailed 123 to get that resolved but my month is low. For the last 18 months I have been at about $200 a month and came in at $110 this month and $80 last month. Must have been a search shift of some kind.

Zero Talent · « **Reply #48 on:** November 02, 2016, 10:07 »

Quote from: Brightontl on November 02, 2016, 06:59

Quote from: Zero Talent on November 01, 2016, 09:52
Very good month! Happy to finally get the promotion to level 5!

Is it mainly photos or it includes footage as well?
In other words, is it worth at all uploading video here (assuming that they would one day review it)?

I have a few clips, indeed, but footage sales are rather rare (even if I actually sold one in October)

fotografer · « **Reply #49 on:** November 02, 2016, 12:02 »

Quote from: Mantis on November 02, 2016, 08:56

My sales still show zero. I emailed 123 to get that resolved but my month is low. For the last 18 months I have been at about $200 a month and came in at $110 this month and $80 last month. Must have been a search shift of some kind.

I'm the same. Usually about 200$ but for the last 2 months just over 100$ a month

AnTiImAgeX · « **Reply #50 on:** November 02, 2016, 12:09 »

September and October was best for me. I just Level 2.

Canonbabe · « **Reply #51 on:** November 02, 2016, 17:36 »

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on September 29, 2016, 06:23

Dismal this month. Worst for years.

So it isn't just me!! Had the worst month since september 2009. What's going on at 123RF? Used to make some decent money here.

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #52 on:** November 04, 2016, 11:07 »

"It would mean a great deal to us if you could tell us why you’ve stopped shopping at 123RF.com

"

Received a survey request from 123rf this morning. I clicked on the link, but it's clearly targeted at buyers not contributors.

I don't have a buyer account there so I'm not sure why I received this - I did find it interesting that their incentive was something that doesn't cost them anything (free month with StockUnlimited) versus a discount or incentive to shop at 123rf. If you wanted to get buyers back to 123rf, why wouldn't you let them shop there for free as the "thank you"?

I thought the list of questions was a bit strange - starting out with asking for my "UID" - they don't use that terminology anywhere on the site. They use "Username/Email" on the English version of the site if you go to log in (and I assume that's what they want). They might also have pre-filled that out with the e-mail they sent the invitation to so as to save me a step.

It always bugs me when there's no "other" option, especially when the list of choices doesn't look complete to me - for example, why not have an option for "my company purchased a subscription at another site". Let me tell them why I don't purchase there any more versus assuming they already know all the possible reasons.

The fact that they're doing a survey suggests that they're seeing some fall off in business (it's also possible that they're just supremely attentive to customers, but then I've no idea why they'd be sending that e-mail to a contributor who never bought anything in that case)

Anyone else get one of these?

roede-orm · « **Reply #53 on:** November 06, 2016, 08:25 »

The last two month were unusually bad for me. Seems to me, I'm note alone!

PixelBytes · « **Reply #54 on:** November 07, 2016, 00:05 »

Just checked. For the whole first week of November I've made less than a typical day at 123. Must be one helluva search engine shakeup! Congrats to those seeing sales increases.

Pauws99 · « **Reply #55 on:** November 07, 2016, 03:58 »

Did OK last month terrible this very variable lately but early days for this month

Noedelhap · « **Reply #56 on:** November 10, 2016, 05:14 »

October was good thanks to some video sales, but November starts off horribly. 5 sales in 10 days and 5 days in a row without a sale.

Steveball · « **Reply #57 on:** November 10, 2016, 05:40 »

I received the survey email and I'm not a buyer there, I didn't complete!

sauletas · « **Reply #58 on:** November 10, 2016, 06:25 »

This year average seems almost same as 2015 but this year is more unstable.
BME on August.
WME on October since 2013.

michal812 · « **Reply #59 on:** November 10, 2016, 08:08 »

Last 2 months are awful. October - 6 sales!!!, November - as for now 3 sales. It's going down since July. Before - every month above 30. This is sick. Videos and photos waiting for review for a very long time.

cathyslife · « **Reply #60 on:** November 10, 2016, 08:16 »

I am a buyer there and I did not receive a survey.

Pauws99 · « **Reply #61 on:** November 10, 2016, 16:15 »

Quote from: sauletas on November 10, 2016, 06:25

This year average seems almost same as 2015 but this year is more unstable.
BME on August.
WME on October since 2013.

Thats my experience the graph is like a roller coaster...don't know what to expect from one month to the next

sarah2 · « **Reply #62 on:** November 12, 2016, 02:26 »

re sales - same old same old. No rise nor fall for 12 months. Just trundles along...upload/no upload, no change...

re survey/sales - I wanted to buy a few images the other day using my credits (it's a long, tedious story). But could not find out how to convert. So 123 lost the sales, another site gained them.

fotografer · « **Reply #63 on:** December 01, 2016, 02:36 »

From a usual of about 200$ a month I didn't even hit 100$ this month !! What is happening there ??

Asthebelltolls · « **Reply #64 on:** December 01, 2016, 09:30 »

...and for the past few days my site shows zero sales and zero earnings for November despite more than 80 displayed up to November 29th....anyone else?

CJH Photography · « **Reply #65 on:** December 01, 2016, 09:50 »

I had no sales there all month :-(

Pauws99 · « **Reply #66 on:** December 01, 2016, 15:33 »

This is the third month when previous months sales disappear last time took about three days to reappear

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #67 on:** December 01, 2016, 18:33 »

Quote from: Pauws99 on December 01, 2016, 15:33

This is the third month when previous months sales disappear last time took about three days to reappear

With the old interface they had about a year where we'd be paid at the minimum level for the first few days of each month and then they'd figure out our actual percentage royalty and adjust all the numbers. I can only assume that they really aren't trying very hard to fix this "beginning of the month" problem.

Either that, or their software people are all terrible

dbvirago · « **Reply #68 on:** December 01, 2016, 20:10 »

After a horrible Oct, Nov was back on track.

Pauws99 · « **Reply #69 on:** December 02, 2016, 02:10 »

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on December 01, 2016, 18:33

Quote from: Pauws99 on December 01, 2016, 15:33
This is the third month when previous months sales disappear last time took about three days to reappear

With the old interface they had about a year where we'd be paid at the minimum level for the first few days of each month and then they'd figure out our actual percentage royalty and adjust all the numbers. I can only assume that they really aren't trying very hard to fix this "beginning of the month" problem.

Either that, or their software people are all terrible

Or both! Flakiest site out there which is quite an achievement