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« on: July 10, 2008, 09:39 »
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I am relatively new (have about 50 pictures) on Alamy and there some points that simply confuse me.

1. What is the general idea of Pseudonyms? Do they help anyhow in selling pictures or making them more visible to the search engine?

2. What is the difference between Views and Zooms ? I have about 70 views, but only one zoom  ???

3. What is CTR? My avarage CTR is 1.32

Thank you in advance
Michal


« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2008, 09:56 »
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I can answer #2:

A view is when your image appears (as the result of a buyer search) on a page with the other images from the search. A zoom is when the buyer actually clicks on your image to see the larger size.

#3 is some calculation between views and zooms although I don't know exactly what the calculation is.

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« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2008, 09:57 »
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I am relatively new (have about 50 pictures) on Alamy and there some points that simply confuse me.

1. What is the general idea of Pseudonyms? Do they help anyhow in selling pictures or making them more visible to the search engine?

2. What is the difference between Views and Zooms ? I have about 70 views, but only one zoom  ???

3. What is CTR? My average CTR is 1.32

Thank you in advance
Michal

1. Pseudonyms let you manage different collection of images under different names.  Each pseudo has its on rank depending on how often images in each gallery are being zoomed in.  I have 2 pseudos, one for RM and another one for RF material.

2. Views are when your image showed up in a search result (thumbnail), Zoom is when they actually clicked on the image to get more info.

3. CTR = zooms / views x 100

For my portfolio I usually get one sale every 100 zooms.


« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2008, 12:04 »
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Just had my second sale after 1,086 views and 35 zooms (CTR 3.22). Only have 112 photos there so far.  They seem to like my local Cornwall landscapes that wouldn't sell well on the micros.

« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2008, 22:29 »
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If you think it very well and manage your images wisely you can have a number of pseudos and with that play the numbers and increase your exposure... And when the new keywording engine comes it will be more important, especially if you use the special annotations that will refine searches.

« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2008, 01:50 »
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I think of Pseudonyms like my own galleries or Albums.

I have a number of Pseudonyms this helps me manage and group images in the same categories, and I can see what Image types are popular and getting views, so if your name was "John Smith"  you can create Pseudonyms like "John Smith - Formula 1", "John Smith - Toddlers", "John Smith - Lifestyle", "John Smith - Adventure" etc:, this can also help buyers looking for similars.

David

« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2008, 09:00 »
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I think of Pseudonyms like my own galleries or Albums.

I have a number of Pseudonyms this helps me manage and group images in the same categories, and I can see what Image types are popular and getting views, so if your name was "John Smith"  you can create Pseudonyms like "John Smith - Formula 1", "John Smith - Toddlers", "John Smith - Lifestyle", "John Smith - Adventure" etc:, this can also help buyers looking for similars.

David

David I tried doing what you suggest but now I only see one pseudo on the measures page. How do you switch from one to another to see the stastics of each pseudo.

« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2008, 09:07 »
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Jorge

If you have Created new Pseudonyms and changed your images to reflect these changes, it will likely be 24 hours before the changes are reflected in your measures.

I have 11 Pseudonyms and I can see them all from measures, when I moved mine the statistics moves as well, this is to stop people moving images to change the ranking, but remember Alalmy only update once a day.

David  ;D

« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2008, 09:11 »
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Jorge

If you have Created new Pseudonyms and changed your images to reflect these changes, it will likely be 24 hours before the changes are reflected in your measures.

I have 11 Pseudonyms and I can see them all from measures, when I moved mine the statistics moves as well, this is to stop people moving images to change the ranking, but remember Alalmy only update once a day.

David  ;D

Thank you for your response I guess I need to contact support since I created and moved the images on Sunday. Maybe I did something wrong.
Thanks again
Jorge

« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2008, 09:59 »
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Just had my second sale after 1,086 views and 35 zooms (CTR 3.22). Only have 112 photos there so far.  They seem to like my local Cornwall landscapes that wouldn't sell well on the micros.

RM or RF?  I've been putting everything out there as RM, but I'm wondering if I'm shooting myself in the foot.

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« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2008, 13:30 »
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Can't you just upload i,ages with keywords and a description?  Sounds confusing to me.  If I ever get accepted, I'll probably be confused by the system.  Being one of the dimest bulbs in the room, I like to keep things simple.

Woul I be better off just forgetting Alamy?  I tried twice, but got shot in the head twice.

« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2008, 13:32 »
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Thank you for your response I guess I need to contact support since I created and moved the images on Sunday. Maybe I did something wrong.
Thanks again
Jorge

If you are still getting views on your old Pseudonym, check your "Manage Images" and that the new Pseudonyms you selected for the images when you did your edit have been updated, just to make sure you saved the changes.  ;)

David

« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2008, 13:39 »
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Can't you just upload i,ages with keywords and a description?  Sounds confusing to me.  If I ever get accepted, I'll probably be confused by the system.  Being one of the dimest bulbs in the room, I like to keep things simple.
Woul I be better off just forgetting Alamy?  I tried twice, but got shot in the head twice.

Just the same as other sites, upload as normal I embed my images with the keywords descriptions etc:, which are picked up, the only difference is I group my images by Pseudonyms, which works best for me, other don't, just use the default.

And with Alamy less is more as far as keywords are concerned, the more images get buyers Zooms the higher up the rank you go, and your images move up in the search, so bad keywording means your thumbnails might get onto the page these are called views, but if the image is irrelevent to the buyers search and buyers Zooms are few, this will damage where you are in a search.

David

« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2008, 15:18 »
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Just had my second sale after 1,086 views and 35 zooms (CTR 3.22). Only have 112 photos there so far.  They seem to like my local Cornwall landscapes that wouldn't sell well on the micros.

RM or RF?  I've been putting everything out there as RM, but I'm wondering if I'm shooting myself in the foot.

Both of them were RM.

« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2008, 16:20 »
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Just had my second sale after 1,086 views and 35 zooms (CTR 3.22). Only have 112 photos there so far.  They seem to like my local Cornwall landscapes that wouldn't sell well on the micros.

RM or RF?  I've been putting everything out there as RM, but I'm wondering if I'm shooting myself in the foot.

Both of them were RM.

Excellent!  Thanks!

Roadrunner

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« Reply #15 on: July 17, 2008, 13:31 »
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Thanks for your input David!

« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2008, 17:42 »
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The problem that gets discussed a lot on Alamy forums is the real meaning of CTR, some people sell a lot with low values and some less with higher numbers...

Also the number of keywords is a two edged sword... Right now, less is best, but with the new annotation system in place, specific searches will show higher if they match.  The problem with that is that if we wait for it to be in place the number of images to re-keyword will be huge... But if we do it now then our CTR will get a hit, since the engine still does not identify the annotations...

Play with your images, give them some time (a month, at least), under different pseudos, and get a feeling on what works and what doesnt...


 

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