Novel Use: 24c is the new 50c

BaldricksTrousers

« on: August 21, 2010, 11:35 »

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Just got a heap of Novel Use sales - each going for 49c of which I get 24c (because, apparently, Alamy can't work out what half of 49c is).

If I knew this was for a school project I wouldn't mind but the lack of details is worrying.

When they launched this, there was talk of $10 sales, that seems to have gone out of the window. What next, 25c sales?


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Zeus

« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2010, 12:07 »

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Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on August 21, 2010, 11:35

I was less than pleased to see this as well. Initially I saw I lot of the $5 and $1 variety and then 89cents and now 49cents. I will be opting out now.


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click_click

« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2010, 13:01 »

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I had a bunch of 49 cents sales as well.

Kicker is:

I opted out in April 2009 Shocked

Last time they had a wave of NU sales coming in (when I was also opted out) Member Services claimed that all sales occurred before 04-2009.
I wonder what their excuse is now... Undecided


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Anyka

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« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2010, 13:13 »

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Same here! Even SS and FT subscriptions pay more per sale!


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click_click

« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2010, 13:33 »

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Quote from: Anyka on August 21, 2010, 13:13

Same here! Even SS and FT subscriptions pay more per sale!

Don't forget that even Crestock is paying more! Who would have thought that Alamy could/would undercut Crestock subs?


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« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2010, 13:43 »

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i tried to opt out, but it doesn't appear you can do that anymore. do you need to notify alamy's admin instead?


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Danicek

« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2010, 13:50 »

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Quote from: ap on August 21, 2010, 13:43

i tried to opt out, but it doesn't appear you can do that anymore. do you need to notify alamy's admin instead?

We have August, not April now.

Once signed up your images remain in the scheme, but you can opt out each April.


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« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2010, 14:22 »

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thanks, hope someone will remind us then.


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Oldhand

« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2010, 16:13 »

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Ditto - huge stack of 49c sales. Had another lot of 89c earlier this month. All was balanced out by 3 regular sales netting $300 this month.

Is it taking the rough with the smooth, or are Alamy taking the proverbial.

My own fault opting in, but the question is are they sales gained (however small) or lost elsewhere?

Oldhand


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sharpshot

« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2010, 16:30 »

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They should just tell us what the novel use is. I was opted out but opted in, just to see if I can get some. I am sure they don't give away full size images for that price, it's probably thumbnail size or with lots of restrictions but it would be better if they just told us.


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madelaide

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« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2010, 17:42 »

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I was relieved to confirm I was opted out.


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cmcderm1

« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2010, 17:50 »

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I used to get excited to see 1-2 sales a month at Alamy. Now it sucks, at 0.24 net!!!


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lisafx

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« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2010, 19:14 »

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Quote from: click_click on August 21, 2010, 13:01

I had a bunch of 49 cents sales as well.

Kicker is:

I opted out in April 2009 Shocked

Last time they had a wave of NU sales coming in (when I was also opted out) Member Services claimed that all sales occurred before 04-2009.
I wonder what their excuse is now... Undecided

OMG, seriously?! You are still getting them?

I am horrified to be getting .24/sale on Alamy. Absolutely disgusting. I haven't had a single sale there all month that wasn't Novel Use.

I am not crazy about .25 subs either, but the sites that give them (including even TS) allow you to leave whenever you want. It's very unethical for Alamy to keep us locked in to virtually giving away our images.


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ShadySue

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« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2010, 19:24 »

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Quote from: lisafx on August 21, 2010, 19:14

I am not crazy about .25 subs either, but the sites that give them (including even TS) allow you to leave whenever you want. It's very unethical for Alamy to keep us locked in to virtually giving away our images.

People are still reporting files in TS when they opted out months ago (or not showing when they opted in).
That doesn't for a minute excuse Alamy, especially when they repeatedly knock the micros.


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Freedom

« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2010, 21:27 »

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I am doing reasonably well at Alamy.

I don't get penny sales because I have opted out of the Novel Use after a few months. If you agree to the Novel Use, you have to live with the results.


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BaldricksTrousers

« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2010, 03:35 »

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Quote from: Freedom on August 21, 2010, 21:27

I am doing reasonably well at Alamy.

I don't get penny sales because I have opted out of the Novel Use after a few months. If you agree to the Novel Use, you have to live with the results.

Well, that's true, except that Alamy marketed it as being in no way like microstock. I can't remember if Alamy itself was talking about $10 as the sort of expected price or if that came from somewhere else. Whichever was the case, the programme was sold on the understanding that commissions would not be down at microstock levels and now those are below Thinkstock's and the unit sale price for customers is probably below that charged by ANY significant micro.

They are also in breach of their own terms, which were that the commission rate would be 50% and they have chosen to cut it to about 48%. Whether that could be used as technical grounds for demanding to be let out of the Novel Use arrangement, I'm not sure.


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lagereek

« Reply #16 on: August 22, 2010, 04:58 »

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Well guys! we opted-in, now we have to live with it. Its a giant laugh but frankly the way Micro is going, I rather have thousands of 0.49c, then a smack in the bollucks.

cheers everyone.


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ShadySue

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« Reply #17 on: August 22, 2010, 05:47 »

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Quote from: lagereek on August 22, 2010, 04:58

Well guys! we opted-in, now we have to live with it. Its a giant laugh but frankly the way Micro is going, I rather have thousands of 0.49c, then a smack in the bollucks.

cheers everyone.

Aaaah, no-one on the Alamy forum is claiming thousands of 49cs, you must be one of the "luckier" ones.
It is very concerning, however, that people who have opted out are seeing these sales, reported here and on their forum.


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lagereek

« Reply #18 on: August 22, 2010, 06:08 »

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Quote from: ShadySue on August 22, 2010, 05:47

Quote from: lagereek on August 22, 2010, 04:58

Well guys! we opted-in, now we have to live with it. Its a giant laugh but frankly the way Micro is going, I rather have thousands of 0.49c, then a smack in the bollucks.

cheers everyone.

Hi Sue!

nope! not thousands, just a figure of speech as in I would rather have that, then nothing at all. get it?

Ive really no sentiments for some of the old-style Alamy shooters, they been knocking the Micro for years, telling everybody what fools and idiots we are selling for a few bucks and when this NU started they were extremly sarcastic, etc, well they were the first ones to join into the NU, now when the going gets tough, same crowd is the first one to scream.
This is inside Alamy you understand.


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ShadySue

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« Reply #19 on: August 22, 2010, 06:13 »

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Quote from: lagereek on August 22, 2010, 06:08

Quote from: ShadySue on August 22, 2010, 05:47

Quote from: lagereek on August 22, 2010, 04:58

Well guys! we opted-in, now we have to live with it. Its a giant laugh but frankly the way Micro is going, I rather have thousands of 0.49c, then a smack in the bollucks.

cheers everyone.

I do understand, and have been finding the irony very amusing vis-a-vis the micro-macro debate as you say, except where people have opted-out.


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Freedom

« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2010, 06:28 »

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Exactly! At least, Alamy gives you the option to opt out.


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ShadySue

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« Reply #21 on: August 22, 2010, 06:30 »

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Quote from: Freedom on August 22, 2010, 06:28

Exactly! At least, Alamy gives you the option to opt out.

But in some cases, haven't respected that option having been taken


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lagereek

« Reply #22 on: August 22, 2010, 06:35 »

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Quote from: ShadySue on August 22, 2010, 06:30

Quote from: Freedom on August 22, 2010, 06:28

Exactly! At least, Alamy gives you the option to opt out.

But in some cases, haven't respected that option having been taken

Well as far as I can see, you can only opt-out in April, although whats the point? theyre not exactly producing large RF sales on a daily basis.


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Freedom

« Reply #23 on: August 22, 2010, 11:30 »

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Oh, I see. I must have opted out in Aprill.


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lisafx

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« Reply #24 on: August 22, 2010, 16:20 »

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Quote from: lagereek on August 22, 2010, 04:58

Well guys! we opted-in, now we have to live with it.

To be honest, I don't ever remember opting in to that. It may have happened when I first joined and an Alamy admin wrote me and said a buyer was interested in purchasing through a distributor, but I was not opted in to that. Did I want to be opted in? I said, "sure, go ahead and opt me in." Next thing I knew I was opted in to everything across the board. I had no idea about Novel Use until I got dozens of $1 sales a couple of months ago, and I had to go look it up in the forums.

Which is all a very long way to get across the point that not all of us who are in Novel Use knowingly opted ourselves into it or had it explained to us.


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