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Justanotherphotographer

« on: April 23, 2017, 05:53 »
+8
Dear Alamy,
For the love of God please automatically supertag the first 10 keywords in the meta data.
That is all.
Thanks


« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2017, 16:38 »
+6
Dear Alamy,
For the love of God please automatically supertag the first 10 keywords in the meta data.
That is all.
Thanks

Dear Alamy,

Please don't do that, since Lightroom is organizing my keywords alphabetically.
That's all,

Thanks.

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« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2017, 18:17 »
+1
I'd like to see Alamy try to automate the process of identifying the most important keywords - which is I think what the supertags concept was intended to do. I'd like it to be possible for the user to change the automated results if they want to.

I'd also love to know what's up with the theory going the rounds on the Alamy forums that use of supertags hurts search position rather than helps it. More here. Alamy says just tag and supertag as directed and it'll work out - I assume meaning that if there is any negative effect of a supertag it's a bug and will get fixed at some point.

Using the title and description should give some clues about important content even without doing image analysis. It'd also be nice to have an option to take the first 5 or 10 automatically. I keyword in Photoshop and for new images am putting the important keywords up front to take care of Adobe Stock/Fotolia's need for important keywords in the first 7.

I'm not anticipating anything being done about this, but it'd be nice...

« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2017, 20:42 »
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I'd like to see Alamy try to automate the process of identifying the most important keywords - which is I think what the supertags concept was intended to do. I'd like it to be possible for the user to change the automated results if they want to.

I'd also love to know what's up with the theory going the rounds on the Alamy forums that use of supertags hurts search position rather than helps it. More here. Alamy says just tag and supertag as directed and it'll work out - I assume meaning that if there is any negative effect of a supertag it's a bug and will get fixed at some point.

Using the title and description should give some clues about important content even without doing image analysis. It'd also be nice to have an option to take the first 5 or 10 automatically. I keyword in Photoshop and for new images am putting the important keywords up front to take care of Adobe Stock/Fotolia's need for important keywords in the first 7.

I'm not anticipating anything being done about this, but it'd be nice...


Like all theories, consider the source, motivation, evidence to support the theory and whether the science is a new theory without sufficient research. Supertags may not be activated if you read between the Alamy replies, so they could do nothing, but some day in the future will be more important. I'm not buying the negative search aspects because I tried some of my own and the photos did move up.

Using my own arguments, that proves nothing. Just that I moved some words to supertags and left a similar photo with common words. Searched for the supertag words and the changed images, after a week, did move up, but the old images didn't move down.

I'm not sure the programing is working right now. But changing supertags and not waiting for at least a week, is not letting the changes take effect in the search.

Anyone can test for their own. Take two images, only two, that are identical tags now. Look at their position. Record the positions in written notes. Change one image, with supertags for the best keywords. Leave the other untouched. Wait a week. Check the position for those identical words, those two images, after the change. Check results against the notes.

Do the same for ten different subjects and images, to control other variables like views or search weighting or new images.

Now report back, what you found.

dpimborough

« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2017, 00:18 »
+1
Dear Alamy please for God's sake let me bulk edit/delete keywords

Clicking repeats one by one is rubbish  :'(

Justanotherphotographer

« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2017, 00:46 »
+2
Dear Alamy,
For the love of God please automatically supertag the first 10 keywords in the meta data.
That is all.
Thanks

Dear Alamy,

Please don't do that, since Lightroom is organizing my keywords alphabetically.
That's all,

Thanks.

Sent from my HTC One M9 using Tapatalk
They should make it so if you use light room to keyword you could re-tag in alamy without extra effort, by selecting supertags auto unselecting others. I think you should be tagging in order of priority though as some agencies weight first keywords.


 

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