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« Reply #25 on: September 21, 2009, 11:19 »
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With BigStock when someone searches using a keyword and the word is in the title, description, and the keyword list, it will be the first found with the search. If used only once in the keyword list it will come up further back in the search.
So the description helps you sell your image.

-Larry


Excellent information Larry. Thank you. It still leaves me wondering of the necessity of it. I mean to say that i have to provide 7 words and this is a tedious process for me at times. Some images just don't need it. The whole uploading process for microstock is hugely unsavory. Every time I see a place where a programmer has inserted a need to do a click when it was not necessary  angers me because it is my time he has chosen to waste.

Peter



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« Reply #26 on: September 21, 2009, 11:23 »
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I think that in time, as other microstocks get smarter about keywording and searching, they'll evolve systems that will leave IS and their "controlled vocabulary" standing in the dust.

How do you see the non Getty sites building out effective and contextual multilingual search unless they ultimately build their databases around a hierarchy based on a structured vocabulary ? And given that the non English speaking worlds offer such potential for growing the market.

« Reply #27 on: September 21, 2009, 13:32 »
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How do you see the non Getty sites building out effective and contextual multilingual search unless they ultimately build their databases around a hierarchy based on a structured vocabulary ?
A tough problem and I'm no expert.  But I think some degree of 'structure' can be achieved without the rigid sort of 'control' IS is trying to enforce. Hnest contributors are by far the best source of keywords because they're motivated and they know their subjects.  But the microstocks need ways to weed out the junk dumped into their system by contributors who don't play fair. 

Maybe some sort of incentive plan that rewards buyers for their feedback on which keywords really describe the image or concept.  Maybe a random-sample spot check of keyword relevance, and search ranking penalties for contributors who are obviously spamming.   Or some other brilliant idea for a system that can evolve in a positive direction.




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« Reply #28 on: September 21, 2009, 14:05 »
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Multilingual search means mapping the keywords to meanings and contexts.

lisafx

« Reply #29 on: September 21, 2009, 17:09 »
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I'm not sure how the sites that have large numbers of international buyers manage the translations, but they certainly seem to bring in the sales.  At SS more than 60% of my sales are from Non US buyers and the vast majority of my sales from Fotolia are European. 

My istock sales, OTOH, mostly seem to come during the North American business day and drop precipitously on US holidays, so I assume they are still mostly from the US. 

Not that I care where my sales come from as long as they come, but clearly istock's CV is not the only game in town for translating to international markets.

« Reply #30 on: September 21, 2009, 18:43 »
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I once ran some tests in FT, and depending on the site (US, UK, DE, ES, IT, FR, PT, BR) I would get different results.  And even if you take a "language-independent" keyword or keywords that have only one meaning, the results vary.  Here is a test.

keywordUSPTDEFRITES
sudoku217305219524217217
africa/afrika/afrique630156301517193754867548663015
internet143706143706143902143979192829143706
airport/aeroporto/flughafen/aeroport/aeropuerto125711257112571252125711556

I may redo this test with other sites.

« Reply #31 on: September 21, 2009, 19:06 »
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In case someone doesn't believe CV has a purpose, here are IS results.

keywordUSPTDEFRITES
sudoku777777777777
africa/afrika/afrique4975049750(*)49750497504975049750
internet618076180761807(+)618076180761807
airport/aeroporto/flughafen/aeroport/aeropuerto116911169111691(*)116911169111691

(*) had some problems with this search
(+) required disambiguation

« Reply #32 on: September 21, 2009, 19:18 »
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Now, DT results.

keywordUSPTDEFRITES
sudoku1018888898888
africa/afrika/afrique809268088879253114503452679414
internet11269911278911231078844105065112788
airport/aeroporto/flughafen/aeroport/aeropuerto142601426814425104191169814271

PS: Isn't search incredibly slow in IE8?  Also in other sites.


 

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