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Microstock Photography Forum - General => Photography Equipment => Cameras / Lenses => Topic started by: leaf on February 04, 2008, 13:17
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So I guess we will be waiting til fall for this one??? :(
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It looks that way.
And I heard it might be called the 3D.
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It looks that way.
And I heard it might be called the 3D.
Really?? 3D if they split the camera into two different versions? or just 3D - that's it.
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So I guess we will be waiting til fall for this one??? :(
I thinks so ,since the existing 5D is doing so well I guess Canon is not in a rush to add the new one to the collection. it seems that even Nikon D300 wasn't enough to change their mind:(
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It looks that way.
And I heard it might be called the 3D.
I read somewhere that Canon couldn't use 3D as it is a registered trademark ? Too bad, I'd really like to see the equivalent of my EOS 3 with a full frame sensor...
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I noticed Canon has registered in January on the UPC database for the 7D. It has not, however, updated the PictBridget listing as it did a month prior to the release of the 40D. Perhaps it learnt from last time.
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I noticed Canon has registered in January on the UPC database for the 7D.
On one site it is listed as a 7D, but on another it is listed as the EOS 5D Mark II 20 MP.
Someone has also registered for a Canon 70D and a 320D.
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5D with 20 MP would be very tempting :)
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I am hoping for a 3D with 22 mp's.. similar specs to the 1Ds Mark III except a smaller body. I think having the option to have the small body or added battery grip is one of the nice things with the current 5D
And then a 7D with 16mp's and lesser other features - more like the current 5D
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Whatever they do, it will need to have 20MP or more. Sony will most probably put their 24MP sensor in the 5D competitor, and although there won't be hordes of photographers changing to Sony, not much is needed for studio work. Just a body and a couple of good lenses, like a 100 macro and a 24-70 zoom.
Another interesting alternative is the Pentax K20D. 14MP and very good image quality, also at high ISO. Their lenses aren't bad either. And the price? $1,300 for the body. The Samsung version will be even cheaper.
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So I guess we will be waiting til fall for this one??? :(
I thinks so ,since the existing 5D is doing so well I guess Canon is not in a rush to add the new one to the collection. it seems that even Nikon D300 wasn't enough to change their mind:(
Since Canon are discounting the 5D like a *insult removed* and if you believe all the chatter on other forums they can't sell it I believe that canon might just keep this body going indefinitely, there may not be a market justification to repace it. I feel pretty sure that they would have replaced it by now if they had any intention to do so.
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new info here
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1032&message=27125455
The new 5D II will not be released at Photokina, but instead will be a surprise announcement on April 22, according to a source I am unwilling to disclose.
The specs of the new camera are as follows (final name unavailable):
- 15.3 MP full frame CMOS sensor (vastly improved light-gathering capacity per pixel: improved micro lenses; miniaturized micro circuitry; enhanced signal/noise ratio)
- Weather sealing same as 1Ds Mark III
- Dual Digic III with all-new "CXR" NR system reported to best 3rd party NR software. Available as a C.F with 4 levels of customizable parameters.
14 bit A/D conversion
- ISO 12800 (C.F. up to 25600)
- Reported 1 2/3 stop sensitivity improvement
- All-new 29-point TTL CMOS sensor
with 12 cross-type for F/2.8 or faster lens
(35% faster than 40D)
- Micro lens fine adjustment for up to 14 lenses
- 300,000 exposure shutter durability
- 6.0 / 3.0 fps
- 3.0" LCD
922,000 pixels
- EOS Integrated Cleaning System
- Live View (improved from 450D; latest generation)
- 6/3 fps continuous shooting for up to 68 frames
- MSRP $3499, available June 2
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Here's hoping, although 15.3 is too small for an istock XXL.
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Here's hoping, although 15.3 is too small for an istock XXL.
15.3 is quite reasonable number taking into account 10-12 megapixel of cheaper models and 21 for Eos 1D (whatever Mark number it is). But this is still speculation as it has been for the last year.
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Here's hoping, although 15.3 is too small for an istock XXL.
But it's big enough for an StockXpert XXL (15MP) ;)
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I have owned 5 generations of Canon DSLR's and the 5D is hands down the best by a huge margin. The images from that camera (with the 24-70 L) still blow me away every time I look at them.
Can hardly imagine wanting to upgrade unless they come up with some pretty major improvements.
My only complaint about the camera is the sensor dust so whenever I do upgrade down the line sensor cleaning will be a must.
I recently bought 40D to have as a backup with onboard flash and the new menu system and live view on it don't impress me at all.
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The 5d sensor is a dust trap. I never took my lens off from buying it and the sensor still attracts dust. I tried dust-aid but that didn't remove much of it. My 400d with the canon dust removal still has some spots on it though, so I don't know how effective it will be on the new camera.
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I recently bought 40D to have as a backup with onboard flash and the new menu system and live view on it don't impress me at all.
I use liveview for precise focusing when taking tripod land/cityscape photos. Do really appreciate this feature a lot for this type of work.
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Good to know live view is helpful for some types of work. Guess since my work is mostly people I haven't had occasion to use it. Maybe if I ever decide to give landscapes a shot... :)
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My only complaint about the camera is the sensor dust so whenever I do upgrade down the line sensor cleaning will be a must.
The new model has sensor cleaning.
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http://gizmodo.com/381810/canon-5d-mark-ii-supposedly-surfaces-online-due-in-june (http://gizmodo.com/381810/canon-5d-mark-ii-supposedly-surfaces-online-due-in-june)
I should add, this is everywhere on the web. It is supposedly a screen short of the de Canon site. But when you check the url at the top the backslashes are forward slashes etc.
A BIG FAT FAKE methinks.
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I think that is fake, because of the grammar. It says: Die EOS 5D Mark II mit Vollformat CMOS-Sensor mit 16 MP. I as a German would think that Canon would write it in a better German, with only one time mit. It does not sound very well with two mit.
But I might be wrong.
I just checked the German Canon Site. And it is exactly as if this was a screenshot. And some parts of the description were copied from the description from the old EOS 5D and 1Ds Mark III.
One thing more which lets me think this is fake. Just above the 5D Mark II you can see the last sentence of the 40D description on the screenshot. I do not think they would put the old 5D down so fast. As you see on the German Canon website: http://www.canon.de/For_Home/Product_Finder/Cameras/Digital_SLR/index.asp
the 450D as well as the predecessor the 400D are still on this site. Why should the old 5D not be on there as well?
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I saw it on one of the online camera retailers site the 5d was in low stock is it just a coincidence or should I take it as hint of upcoming replacement of it?never ending rumors....
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In the may/june issue of American PHOTO there is on page 25 an advertisement for Canon cameras, with three bodies : EOS1Ds ; EOS1D ; EOS 40D...
As if the 5D was no more on the catalog (yes, I know the 450D is missing too, but this advertisement is rather pro-oriented).
And in Europe you get a 200€ rebate with the 5D...
June ?
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any rumors on the price??? 8)=tom
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any rumors on the price??? 8)=tom
I haven't heard anything about the price but I expect it to be between USD 2500-3000 in US but if it goes higher than that I wouldn't buy one
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any rumors on the price??? 8)=tom
I haven't heard anything about the price but I expect it to be between USD 2500-3000 in US but if it goes higher than that I wouldn't buy one
That's what the 'old' 5D (body) is going for right now.... ... humm..... If that turns out to be the case.... I'll have one of the first ones, for sure! 8)=tom
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any rumors on the price??? 8)=tom
I haven't heard anything about the price but I expect it to be between USD 2500-3000 in US but if it goes higher than that I wouldn't buy one
That's what the 'old' 5D (body) is going for right now.... ... humm..... If that turns out to be the case.... I'll have one of the first ones, for sure! 8)=tom
more or less yes true but my price predictions based on price of Nikon d300 ( I take it as to be in the same class with new 5d or replacement of d300 will be) considering the price of d300 in US already USD1800 and upper model canon DSLR 1D mark iii being 4100 (despite not being full frame we know that camera falls into different category than existing and in my opinion new coming 5d(whatever it 'll be called) should be priced in between those .and even nikon d3 is about usd 5000 now so I don't thing they will tag the new 5d higher than USD 3000 (or let's hope they won't:)
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Amazon now has the field guild up for pre-order
Canon 5D II field guide (http://www.amazon.com/Canon-Mark-Digital-Field-Guide/dp/0470409509/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1211691312&sr=1-1)
looks like the camera will definitely come out before November sometime
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now it's getting exciting. I am glad they kept the name and didn't change it for 6d or 7d any how I like the name of 5d and 5d mark II as well. ;D
now let's hope it won't be too pricey and comes out soon fingers crossed!
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any updates?
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just thought i would post a little update
September 18th is getting widely quoted as the next 'release date' for the follow up to the 5D
August 31st:
The 5D replacement and new Sony FF are in the hands of reviewers, but no D3'x' [DPR] also a Sept 17th meeting for Canon UK dealers.
Also there is again the prospect of two FF Canon bodies a la 3D/6D and another mention of the 'end' of the '1D' line.
[northlight-images.co.uk] (http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/cameras/Canon_5d2_3d_7d.html)
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I think more or less we know what to expect from the new camera (which hopefully be around pretty soon) now I am more interested in the price tag,hopefully it will be withing an affordable range and not too expensive but I am counting on the heated competition started by Nikon:)
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I'd buy it for under $2999, wouldnt pay more.
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I think more or less we know what to expect from the new camera (which hopefully be around pretty soon) now I am more interested in the price tag,hopefully it will be withing an affordable range and not too expensive but I am counting on the heated competition started by Nikon:)
well i'm not sure we do.
There have been rumors of anything from 16-21 MP
video capabilities... or not
one camera, or two (a 7D and a 3D?)
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What makes you so sure that there will be a successor ???
I personally don't believe it anymore :'(
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Well the fact that, at least as of this afternoon, if you type Canon EOS 7D into google you got a sponsored link for B&H with option to buy. You don't get the same if you type in 3D BTW. Oh and there's the beginnings of a rumor going around that the successor to the mIII with be a MF DSLR.
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Canon Australia told the press they have 0 stocks of 5D, and will not confirm if they are to get another shipment.
I also have been told that Canon USA have no more 5Ds on the way, and all future stocks in America will be grey market.
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New 50D--15.3 mp. Maybe an upgrade to the 5d will come soon too. It has actually been around for a long time compared to the 30d or 40d. It seems to take longer to shop for a camera than for them to produce new ones now a days.
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New 50D--15.3 mp. Maybe an upgrade to the 5d will come soon too. It has actually been around for a long time compared to the 30d or 40d. It seems to take longer to shop for a camera than for them to produce new ones now a days.
obvious much?
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(http://www.image-nature.com/images/couvertures/img_nat_16_large.jpg)
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We have a name at last :D
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That Canon was introduced last spring as an entry-level SLR ( «below» the 400/450D).
See here:http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/19829/canon-1000d-review/ (http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/19829/canon-1000d-review/)
I guess we have to wait a littlebit more... ;)
Claude
EDITED: I did not see the mention Canon 7D at first look! So yes, we have a name !!!
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2990 Euros for the kit
(http://www.enfocando.info/portal/images/stories/eos-7d-5d-mk2.jpg)
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but is there still reason to believe that there will be 2 cameras?
I'm being told again about 2 full frame cameras coming. Canon's current pricing would suggest there is some validity. The source that specced the cameras for me a couple months ago still stands by his words.
[CanonRumours.com (http://canonrumours.com/)]
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if they released two cameras than one of them like to be (quite) pricey one may be another 1D on the way too ????(just guessing) or 5dm2 and 7D together who knows?
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More info about the specifications?
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here they talk of new 32mp 1Ds Mark IV
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=563508
never ending rumors ;) but it could be true if new 5d or 7d was 21 mp they would need a new 1D for sure:)
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hehe.. yeah.. no end of rumours. If the internet has done nothing else, it has at least fueled the rumour mills :)
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new update.. canon has put up a 'mystical' looking page on their US website:)
http://www.canon.com/moon/en/index.html
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Interesting page at canon europe also:
http://www.canon-europe.com/
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now it's getting exciting ;D
I take what they are trying to say on Canon US site is that :with the new canon DSLR you could even take photos in moon light ;D ;D high ISO low noise???
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It does sound like something revolutionary is coming. They did not do this when the 50D came out. I am looking forward to it.
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i find it intriguing that they hide the name of the camera on both ads. Perhaps because there is more than one? perhaps just to draw it out a little longer?
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The n°1 French Magazine "chasseur d'images" has just given some specifications of the new eos 5D :
Price: 2600€
24x36 captor 24Mpx
New design and aluminum body
new battery
Live view + Video mode
digic IV (of course)
that's all for now,this time ,these are not speculations .
announcement the 17th September
here is the url: http://www.chassimages.com/accueil/Sommaire.xml
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wow.. if those are the real specs what is the 1Ds mark III supposed to do, or is there a new one of those coming out too? ... unlikely as the new one isn't that old. Which makes me glad I didn't splurge for the mark III if a 24mp 5D is coming out very soon.
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There are some rumors that the next version of the 1Ds will be a medium format body.
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New design and aluminum body
A slight correction : they talk about a new and lighter magnesium alloy chassis (IIRC, the current 5D has an aluminium chassis + magnesium body)
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sounds great if the specs are really official,but the expected price tag is a bit higher than my budget(oh well I might push it a bit)
hopefully all will be clearer soon but 24mp with video future I'd just say wow!
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The n°1 French Magazine "chasseur d'images" has just given some specifications of the new eos 5D :
that's all for now,this time ,these are not speculations .
announcement the 17th September
here is the url: [url]http://www.chassimages.com/accueil/Sommaire.xml[/url]
If that's true it would be a good answer to Sony Alpha 900 :)
There are some rumors that the next version of the 1Ds will be a medium format body.
BTW there are rumors about medium format Nikon to be announced in February
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i merged the running 5D thread with this one. The specs must be getting fairly confirmed but it hasn't been announced yet, so it isn't 100% FOR SURE. A mag. is pretty reliable, but then again so are some websites... the MP change every day it seems :)
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I think anything under 24mp for the new 5d will let Sony join the Nikon-Canon kingdom.
Lets see what happen.
PS. when is photokina?
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PS. when is photokina?
from 23 to 28th sept
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Enough time to save money, wait for reviews and make myself a gift in christmas... ;)
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This is pretty exciting if true. 24mp in a compact, 5D-like body would be my ideal. Couldn't care less about video or even live view.
All I need is high mp, low noise, and good dynamic range, in a body that won't send me to the chiropractor ;)
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uh uh uh !
We are getting close... more of the camera is now visible on http://www.canon.com/moon/en/index.html
I wish i hadn't noticed that, now i'm going to be updating that page a few times a day to see if any more has been revealed...
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evil canon :) they are soooo toying with us :)
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Do they know that we dont care about the shape of the camera? Info please.
Have you heard that roumor which say that the new 7d kit will came with the new canon 24-70 2.8 IS?
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evil canon :) they are soooo toying with us :)
They've probably got bots crawling forums looking for threads like this so the marketing people can laugh themselves silly at our antics. :D
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According to a swedish source, Canon will release the camera September 17th.
http://www.kamerabild.se/artikel/ny_canon_eos_den_17_september_080910205533-595.html
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yeah 6 am swedish time there is a press conferance there...
that's like 10 in the evening in the states on the 16th
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:o Tomorrow will the mistery be cleared?
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:o Tomorrow will the mistery be cleared?
wooops.. sorry it was late.. no the 16th, not the 10th :)
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the image on the moon page seems a lit bit clearer now but it doesn't reveal enough yet btw some part of the image looks a little over exposed to me:) so that should mean you could even over expose with the moon light:)
http://www.canon.com/moon/en/index.html
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one thing is certain - it does not have built in flash. so it is not 50D :D
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/AniCrosserX/Untitled-1-1.jpg?t=1221259824)
Noise and artifacts, I know.
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Very nice work. Looks like its a 5D body all the way, but really as long as its not as hideous as the A900 from Sony, all I care about is the insides :)
21-25 MP, no noise to ummm, ISO 52000 ( ???) and 6.5 fps with pro-level autofocus that locks when you do sports and wildlife...is that too much to ask? I'm waiting so quietly and patiently but I fear that everyone else is too and I won't be able to get my hands on it before Christmas
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Very nice work. Looks like its a 5D body all the way, but really as long as its not as hideous as the A900 from Sony, all I care about is the insides :)
21-25 MP, no noise to ummm, ISO 52000 ( ???) and 6.5 fps with pro-level autofocus that locks when you do sports and wildlife...is that too much to ask? I'm waiting so quietly and patiently but I fear that everyone else is too and I won't be able to get my hands on it before Christmas
Do not worry! Canon does this every year just before Christmas. I bet you can buy the new "whatever model ???" by mid November. All the DSLR's since the Digital Rebel have been available for Christmas the year of introduction. ;D
-Larry
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Save your money with Canon and go with Nikon
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No - I am not switching from Canon to Nikon, it makes no sense - they essentially put together the same cameras. And why would I when Canon's tele's are much better?
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Save your money with Canon and go with Nikon
Can you back that up with some data ....
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Save your money with Canon and go with Nikon
Can you back that up with some data ....
There isn't any. Its the same stupid argument that one is better than the other, but in the end, both companies are good. The real error component happens behind the camera.
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Clocks are ticking............... ::)
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ohhh yes.. i guess tonight it is for you in north america... tommorow morning for me :)
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And about time too! When I bought my 5d in april 2007 I first wanted to wait for the next version, glad I didn't!
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You can se in this link a forum where a photo of the 7d can be seen adn the specifications
http://www.canonistas.com/foros/general-camaras/49955-canon-eos-7d-ya-en-camino-13.html (http://www.canonistas.com/foros/general-camaras/49955-canon-eos-7d-ya-en-camino-13.html)
And here, for the people that want more than 1 new 5D, here they talk about 3 new 5D´s
http://gizmologia.com/2008/09/algo-se-mueve-en-canon-manana/ (http://gizmologia.com/2008/09/algo-se-mueve-en-canon-manana/)
True or false... we will see ;D ;D
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that photo was posted back in june.. probably just another fake..
surprising how well this has all been kept quiet. There is still a crazy amount of disagreement about what is actually coming out. That one page that suggests three cameras (all under 17mp) suggests gps on two of the cameras.. which would also be nice, but i haven't heard that one before.
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getting closer but they are still obviously masking out the camera name and the bottom of the camera
(http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/139409/5d160908.jpg) (http://www.canon.com/moon/en/index.html)
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When will be the announcement? Tomorrow?
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When will be the announcement? Tomorrow?
tommorow at 6 in the morning in sweden, which means at 10 in the evening in the states tonight ... or in other words, in 12 hours.
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*tick tock*
*tick tock*
I hope they get it over with soon... and that we arent dissapointed.
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Yeah, hopefully we are not disapointed. There have been so many rumors going around who knows what the real specs are. The highest mp rating was 24, but i am really not sure it will be that high. It would be nice for more than 16 though.
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1 with 15mp and other with 24
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Yeah, hopefully we are not disapointed. There have been so many rumors going around who knows what the real specs are. The highest mp rating was 24, but i am really not sure it will be that high. It would be nice for more than 16 though.
yea,it is indeed so exciting, and rumors made the expectations really high I know technically 16mp more than enough (having said that I just read on IS's forum today bigger files were favored by the best match ,not sure if it's true though)so 21-24mp would be really nice too.Also I'd love to have that HD video feature, which I could use for creating stock footages. ;D fingers crossed:)
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Please no video, please add better auto focus and weather sealing :-)
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i think you will get both of those for sure
This site (http://dpinterface.com/) is suggesting the 22nd now, but i really don't think they know what they are talking about :)
I still hold (hope) that they will announce it in sweden tommorow morning. That would coincide nicely with the opening of Europe's largest Canon store in Oslo.. which also happens tomorrow.
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Yeah, hopefully we are not disapointed. There have been so many rumors going around who knows what the real specs are. The highest mp rating was 24, but i am really not sure it will be that high. It would be nice for more than 16 though.
yea,it is indeed so exciting, and rumors made the expectations really high I know technically 16mp more than enough (having said that I just read on IS's forum today bigger files were favored by the best match ,not sure if it's true though)so 21-24mp would be really nice too.Also I'd love to have that HD video feature, which I could use for creating stock footages. ;D fingers crossed:)
best match will favor images taken with the new 7D for sure :P
Tomorrow, when I wake up I will run to the computer to se if there is any news...
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I still hold (hope) that they will announce it in sweden tommorow morning. That would coincide nicely with the opening of Europe's largest Canon store in Oslo.. which also happens tomorrow.
Hm.. that would make sense if they where announcing it in Norway.. I've been wondering for some time why they would announce it in sweden the first place?
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Please no video, please add better auto focus and weather sealing :-)
what would be too bad about having the video feature?I used think like you I didn't like combo products.as normally P&S cameras had that video thing and they all (imo) created useless videos but with the current technology that DSLR cameras offer they can be capable of creating high quality videos that could (imo) even compare to those very expensive pro video cameras.and I think it shouldn't be too difficult to add video capture feature to a DSLR with live view function some people even talking about adding the feature to 40d by some software tricks.(I don't know how possible it is though)
I just saw the samples videos of d90,impressive I think.I guess it is easier to ignore the feature rather than missing it: ;) so I do hope they will offer it.one thing though that could stop them from doing it would be that canon also sells video cameras unlike Nikon but here again they have to compete with Nikon:)
I hope they will make the announcement tomorrow, not on the 22nd.
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Maybe they hired new spokesperson:
(http://thehurricanewatch.files.wordpress.com/2007/01/swedishchef2.jpg)
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The teaser site seems to indicate a built in battery grip.
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The teaser site seems to indicate a built in battery grip.
Oh no it doesn't!!! There is certainly no built in battery grip! People just can't look right ::)
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finally.
price is great
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0809/08091705canon_5dmarkII.asp (http://www.dpreview.com/news/0809/08091705canon_5dmarkII.asp)
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ahhh.. finally :)
key points were
* New 21.1 Megapixel CMOS sensor with improved EOS Integrated Cleaning System (E.I.C.S.)
* New Full HD 1080 resolution movie recording
* 3.9 frames per second continuous shooting
* High performance DIGIC 4 providing superb image quality
* Maximum 310 large JPEG images in a single burst with a UDMA card
* 3.0” VGA (920k dots) Clear View LCD
* ISO 100-6400 (expansion from 50 up to 25,600)
* 9 AF points + 6 Assist AF points
glad it is not only 16mp
Kinda surprised that there was only one camera though. There was a lot of rumours that seemed like they could be true about 2 cameras. Anyhow it looks pretty good!
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Well, I must getting older cause I do not care about HD video and live view. Everything else seems to be delicious. What about weather sealing?
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awesome!
ps.
is it a full frame sensor?
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awesome!
ps.
is it a full frame sensor?
yes, of course! :)
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Anyone wanna buy my old 5D? ;) But seriously this is a huge upgrade and I will definetly invest some money on this (reasons: megapixels(maybe longer lasting images) and ability to shoot stock footage as well (new market as well) ).
br, MjP
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There was a G10 as well.
The video is a great idea. Seems like stock videos are a good seller.
NOW ... how much can we expect to see the OLD 5D reduce to? My bet is $1300 will be the price around Xmas at B&H
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There was a G10 as well.
Yeah, the G10 thread is here. (http://www.microstockgroup.com/index.php?topic=5845.msg63417;topicseen#new)
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They didnt put too much fps´s not to eat 1d. dont you think?
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http://web.canon.jp/imaging/eosd/eos5dm2/02.html#01
more info and video samples
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Well, I must getting older cause I do not care about HD video and live view. Everything else seems to be delicious. What about weather sealing?
yes, it is weather sealed
Inside and out, the EOS 5D Mark II is one tough performer. Under the hood, a soft-touch shutter delivers precise, electronically controlled speeds from 30 seconds to 1/8000 sec. Adjustable in increments of 1/2 or 1/3 stops with flash synch up to 1/200 sec*1, the shutter assures trouble-free operation over its 150,000-cycle*2 life-span.
Outside, a stainless steel chassis reinforced by magnesium alloy offers excellent protection against the minor bumps and drops of everyday use.
Resistance to dust and water has been enhanced through the use of sealing material around openings for the battery compartment, memory card slot, and buttons (red). Additional protection is provided by highly accurate alignment of seams on the magnesium-alloy chassis and rubber grips as well as precision construction of each dial’s axis (green)..
[canon.jp (http://web.canon.jp/imaging/eosd/eos5dm2/03.html#03)]
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Ok,
There's no specifications about the sound recording capabilities (mono? stereo? 16 bits? 44.1khz?).
We only know it's possible to plug a micro...
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A built-in microphone records in monaural while stereo recording is possible via the external microphone input terminal.
[canon.jp (http://web.canon.jp/imaging/eosd/eos5dm2/02.html#01)]
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A built-in microphone records in monaural while stereo recording is possible via the external microphone input terminal.
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Yes, PCM audio recording, but this don't tell us the processor capabilities, range dynamic, frequencies choices etc.
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wow finally!
ALL GREAT! except for the price in the UK oh man that is so unfair the price in the Uk is 1900 dollar higher(£ 2,299. ,which is about usd 4600)than the US according to dpreview
I have to find a way to buy it from the US:(
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i end up buying almost all my equipment from BHphoto in the states, even though i live in norway.
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there is certainly something wrong with the pricing as the price in the EU is about euro 2500 which roughly equals to 2000 pounds no one would buy it from the UK than.
I might try to buy it from BH but I worry about the customs taxes (and shipping too) I have to figure out how much I'd pay for them.
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It would be better to wait until real things appear...
What worries me is if my computer will manage 21mp raws well...
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good point! may be some computer experts could help us with that by pointing out ideal system for it.but it is very likely I might need to update my computer too(may be I could get away with with some extra RAM)but for HD video editing we do need a powerful computer
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I have upgraded my computer recently and it manages 10mp files very well but 24... dont know.
Anyone knows somewere to download a test big raw to see what happen with it?
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you can go here
http://www.dpreview.com/gallery/canoneos1dsmkiii_samples/
and open the the 1ds mark III sample images - which are the same size as the 5D images.
They are just jpg, but you can open them up in photoshop and save them as tiff and play with them and see how things go.
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Thx
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the jpg works flawless
8bit tiff with 2 or 3 layers is ok, afforable
16bit tiff with more than 4 layers applying hard filters like lens correction, etc. can be used but only in special times.
Well I think I can buy the 5d2 without upgrading my pc :D
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Well I think I can buy the 5d2 without upgrading my pc :D
would you mind sharing your computer system info ?(I mean CPU and ram etc)
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core quad (dont remember the model)
4g ram (xp doesnt uses all...)
32gb 10.000rpm HD (where de OS and PS is installed)
2x500gb HDs Raid0 for archives
xp pro OS
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Hey that is almost exactly like me.
Perhaps it is the quad core Q6600
same ram, HD, etc :)
Motherboard is actually also important - a computer can only go as fast as it's slowest parts.
Anyhow, yeah, it didn't seem to be a problem. The tiff's saved fine, heavy filters rendered in a few seconds.
A good test of your computer speed is this one
http://retouchartists.com/pages/speedtest.html
Perhaps we should start a new thread on computer speeds, and what is good specs.
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Mine is 9300 :P
I can remember a thread that I followed with interest when before I bought the computer
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Is it for MAc only? >:(
what is for mac only? that test??.. if that is what you mean it is for both mac and PC
also, here is a good guide for optimizing your performance of Photoshop CS3 with Windows XP and Vista (http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=kb401088&sliceId=2)
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A few sample images:
http://www.canon-ci.co.kr/pds/product/camera/sample/IMG_0064.JPG
http://www.canon-ci.co.kr/pds/product/camera/sample/IMG_0188.JPG
http://www.canon-ci.co.kr/pds/product/camera/sample/IMG_0309.JPG
http://www.canon-ci.co.kr/pds/product/camera/sample/IMG_0932.JPG
http://www.canon-ci.co.kr/pds/product/camera/sample/IMG_1179.JPG
http://www.canon-ci.co.kr/pds/product/camera/sample/IMG_3944.JPG
http://www.canon-ci.co.kr/pds/product/camera/sample/IMG_4642.JPG
I wonder who makes those samples :D
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dpreview just released a hands on review on the camera
Hands on review of Canon 5D mark II (http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canoneos5dmarkII/)
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has anyone figured out if we can use the same battery with this camera.
it says it is a new battery, but it is the same physical size - just more mAh (400 more) and the batteries also give more info to the camera.
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I'm really hoping that there is another camera (7D perhaps?) because the fps is too low. I really couldn't care less about movie mode because if I wanted a video camera, I would buy one.
I'm also interested in seeing what the autofocus is like. I'm in the market for a new camera and I'm torn between a 1D MK3 and the new 5D. I would love the new 5D but I'm not sure if the 3.9 fps will be able to kick it for sports shots.
However I would really want the full frame. Wow, unless they come out with a new camera, I don't know what to choose.
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23 sec here... (quad core 6600 @ 3,15 ghz , 8 gigabytes overclocked cas latency 4 RAM, 10k os drive (wd raptor), CS3 swap disc 512gb samsung spinpoint (old generation), work drive 1tb samsung spinpoint (latest generation)). Vista 64 bit and Cs3 10.0 (no upgrades).
Writing speed should be faster. It is not a problem at the moment but will be problem with 21 megapixels files (e.g. saving takes nearly a minute (images with lots of layers).
br, MjP
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23 sec here... (quad core 6600 @ 3,15 ghz , 8 gigabytes overclocked cas latency 4 RAM, 10k os drive (wd raptor), CS3 swap disc 512gb samsung spinpoint (old generation), work drive 1tb samsung spinpoint (latest generation)). Vista 64 bit and Cs3 10.0 (no upgrades).
Wow.
Which is the difference in your opinion of that speed? the 64 bit OS?
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23 sec here... (quad core 6600 @ 3,15 ghz , 8 gigabytes overclocked cas latency 4 RAM, 10k os drive (wd raptor), CS3 swap disc 512gb samsung spinpoint (old generation), work drive 1tb samsung spinpoint (latest generation)). Vista 64 bit and Cs3 10.0 (no upgrades).
Wow.
Which is the difference in your opinion of that speed? the 64 bit OS?
I think the main difference for non-optimized q6600 system will be higher clock speed ( default is 2,4 ghz if I remember correctly), higher RAM clock speed. Photoshop have 3,2gb of memory, but the system has rest (over 4,5gb) and windows is not need swap anything since there is a lot of free memory left and photoshop swap file routines can utilize some of that memory indirectly even if the photoshop main process is not able to see more than 3,2gb of memory... 64 bit os will help because it allows more memory on the system. Still waiting the 64 bit photoshop.. Lightroom 64bit is very fast if you are not making heavy local adjustments.
br, MjP
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this is the most exciting thing i have seen from Canon and it is enough to keep me buying their stuff.
Now if I can only get rid of a 300D, a 30D, 2 kit lenses, a Sigma 10-20 DC EX, a Nikon D1 etc. etc. for about $1000 I will go the new model instead of buying the old model.
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Wow, that's a heck of an upgrade over a 5D. They pulled out the bigs guns of releasing this one.
Sooo, I wonder how long it will be before Nikon releases a D700x with the 25MP FF Sony sensor.
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There is a lot of chatter about from the engineers at Canon who state they have the technology to create a sensor that will blow all the opposition out the window. They claim they were held back from offering this on the 5DMKII in preference for more pixels.
So I guess the new IDs will be something out of this world.
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which one do you think performing better at @6400 iso
canon 5d m2
http://www.flickr.com/photos/limens/2865518397/sizes/o/
nikon d3
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mureena/1829704306/sizes/o/
result of the canon seems better to me but we don't know how much noise reduction filter was applied to it (the noise from the new 5d seemed more film grainish to me)
these are just early examples though still too early to judge
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Canon keeps on impressing me. They seem to do almost everything right with their new releases. Good going!
Unfortunately I'm not making enough money on microstock to buy a 5D just yet...