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Dook

« on: January 30, 2015, 08:26 »
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« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2015, 08:48 »
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OH,  YESS, excellent for us, "happy stockers".
I need two pieces.
With the first I will shoot for Canstock and with the second for Bigstockphoto.
 :P

« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2015, 08:51 »
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probably its fake,

" Regular sensitivity: ISO 100-6400"

 

6400 is too low for a that level os camera

1.3x and 1.6x crop modes? don't make any sense


but this is just my opinion

« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2015, 09:12 »
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probably its fake,

" Regular sensitivity: ISO 100-6400"

 

6400 is too low for a that level os camera

1.3x and 1.6x crop modes? don't make any sense


but this is just my opinion

I disagree. This is a studio camera, geared to compete with medium format. For that, high ISO is secondary to high MP and generally high image quality at low ISO. I think Canon is trying to do to medium format what its 7D did to full frame -- provide a cheaper, lighter, more flexible alternative to the incumbent product.

« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2015, 09:18 »
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Sounds like a great camera but probably will be too expensive to justify using it for 35 cents a download!

« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2015, 09:51 »
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1.3x and 1.6x crop modes? don't make any sense


Crop modes make sense if you are shooting birds, distant objects or sports, where the action may only fill a small part of the frame and the rest of it is essentially waste space that soaks up memory for nothing.

« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2015, 12:41 »
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I don't know about the rest of you, but i'm downgrading my cameras. I'm finding MFT a complete pleasure to shoot. Super light, not too expensive, and when you're making pennies per image, darn well good enough.


No Free Lunch

« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2015, 13:42 »
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A 50mp sensor seems like overkill to me.

It is an over kill! Both on the images and our pocket books... :-\


PaulieWalnuts

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« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2015, 14:35 »
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A 50mp sensor seems like overkill to me.

Everybody has different needs. For me, more megapixels means I make more money. If you shoot micro, sports, weddings, or whatever, you probably don't need 50MP.

But I don't want a 50MP DSLR. I'm waiting on Sony's 50MP A-series.

« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2015, 14:51 »
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A 50mp sensor seems like overkill to me.

Everybody has different needs. For me, more megapixels means I make more money. If you shoot micro, sports, weddings, or whatever, you probably don't need 50MP.

But I don't want a 50MP DSLR. I'm waiting on Sony's 50MP A-series.
What subject area do you need it for, Paulie?

PaulieWalnuts

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« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2015, 14:53 »
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A 50mp sensor seems like overkill to me.

Everybody has different needs. For me, more megapixels means I make more money. If you shoot micro, sports, weddings, or whatever, you probably don't need 50MP.

But I don't want a 50MP DSLR. I'm waiting on Sony's 50MP A-series.
What subject area do you need it for, Paulie?
Landscape/Cityscape

If you shoot micro you may not need anything more than a camera phone these days.

« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2015, 15:10 »
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A 50mp sensor seems like overkill to me.

Everybody has different needs. For me, more megapixels means I make more money. If you shoot micro, sports, weddings, or whatever, you probably don't need 50MP.

But I don't want a 50MP DSLR. I'm waiting on Sony's 50MP A-series.
What subject area do you need it for, Paulie?
Landscape/Cityscape

If you shoot micro you may not need anything more than a camera phone these days.

so true. sort of laugh when i read the required cameras in some of the agencies.
one site even insist the buyer should  know which camera u use.
i tell them, then they better expect to pay a lot more than pennies to us per download.


 with the kind of money you make and the type of lighting even a PNS is too much for microstock.
50MP is more than overkill. like using a Ferrari to drive across town to do your shopping when a secondhand boneshaker is all u need.
« Last Edit: January 30, 2015, 15:14 by etudiante_rapide »

« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2015, 15:13 »
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50MP is more than overkill. like using a Ferrari to drive across town to do your shopping when a secondhand boneshaker is all u need.

The trouble is, the girls don't hang around my Hyundai outside the supermarket the way they do with my neighbour's Ferrari  :(
(And my pickup line of "Hi, girls, fancy a ride on my boneshaker" never seems to attract any interest, for some reason)
« Last Edit: January 30, 2015, 15:24 by BaldricksTrousers »

Tror

« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2015, 16:37 »
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I`m waiting anxiously for the release. I will be most likely one of the first ones to pre-order. I aim at raising my quality as much as I can - Micro or not. In Studio I rarely go over ISO 200, but enjoy rich detail in the final image.

For low light shoots I should buy a Sony a7s, but am still too stubborn to switch to another mount system and buy adapter or e-mount lenses and too rarely shoot under natural light for now. I would welcome some low-MP, high sensitivity option from Canon for for this as well.


Dook

« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2015, 16:38 »
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I was in buyers shoes some time ago. A friend of mine wanted a couple of cityscapes for an interior, to be printed big. So, I recommended him the maximum size, and I was the one to download them for him. I was so disappointed with the quality of this pictures. I guess it was an older APS sensor camera. And since it was not subscription, they were not cheap at all.I will never ever again buy from microstock for large prints, especially not from that particular photographer. And who is losing here? The photographer, of course!
So, saying that even a smartphone is an overkill for microstock is childish. Why shoot for microstock at all then? Do it proper way or don't do it at all.
« Last Edit: January 30, 2015, 16:41 by Dook »

« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2015, 16:45 »
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And who is losing here? The photographer, of course!

ALL the photographers - not just the one who put up the picture.

PaulieWalnuts

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« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2015, 17:04 »
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I was in buyers shoes some time ago. A friend of mine wanted a couple of cityscapes for an interior, to be printed big. So, I recommended him the maximum size, and I was the one to download them for him. I was so disappointed with the quality of this pictures. I guess it was an older APS sensor camera. And since it was not subscription, they were not cheap at all.I will never ever again buy from microstock for large prints, especially not from that particular photographer. And who is losing here? The photographer, of course!
So, saying that even a smartphone is an overkill for microstock is childish. Why shoot for microstock at all then? Do it proper way or don't do it at all.

Who said a smartphone is overkill? A smartphone is probably plenty for most micro situations especially the ones that are putting out over 20MP. I've seen people do really nice studio portfolio work with strobes and an Iphone. Plus, your competitive threat really isn't the pro photographer with the Canikon D7X Mark MCMXLV any longer. It's the bazillion ordinary Joes/Janes with camera phones.

I'm pulling all of my high resolution cityscape stuff out of micro. Prices and sales volume are in a downward spiral. To produce high resolution and quality cityscape pictures costs me a lot of money. New 50MP camera, lenses that can resolve 50MP, airfare, hotel, cabs, gas, food, and the list never ends. And what, for a few dollars? No thanks. Soon my images will only be available through me and it won't be at micro prices.

« Last Edit: January 30, 2015, 18:46 by PaulieWalnuts »

Dook

« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2015, 17:38 »
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I'm sorry to hear that you, or anybody, is pulling his stuff from micros.
But I can't agree with you that a smartphone is good enough for anything serious . I have the latest smartphone and its pictures are a joke.

« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2015, 17:58 »
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I'm sorry to hear that you, or anybody, is pulling his stuff from micros.
But I can't agree with you that a smartphone is good enough for anything serious . I have the latest smartphone and its pictures are a joke.

You bought the wrong smartphone then. The iPhone's photos are quite sufficient to sell as Stock and have been ever since the 4S. That being said, it is of course nonsense that the phone is enough to shoot all kinds of photos and in all kinds of situations.

MxR

« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2015, 18:02 »
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that stupid  megapixels war ...

« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2015, 18:14 »
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Sounds like a great camera but probably will be too expensive to justify using it for 35 cents a download!

Both you and Enstoker make super valid points about how much is enough for this crummy market we endure.  We keep upgrading in technology and they keep cutting our commissions or keep them at pennies. I know this is a "micro" buysiness which means "micro" commissions, but investing in technology can actually help the agencies attract new customer types who need this kind of resolution. So if I were to invest in something like this I would not ever compensated more than if I was still shooting with a 6.2MP camera with a $50 lens.

« Reply #22 on: January 30, 2015, 18:15 »
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I'm sorry to hear that you, or anybody, is pulling his stuff from micros.
But I can't agree with you that a smartphone is good enough for anything serious . I have the latest smartphone and its pictures are a joke.

You bought the wrong smartphone then. The iPhone's photos are quite sufficient to sell as Stock and have been ever since the 4S. That being said, it is of course nonsense that the phone is enough to shoot all kinds of photos and in all kinds of situations.

I have started submitting iPhone pics and iPhone video, both of which have been accepted to my sites. I sell some regularly on SS and DT.

PaulieWalnuts

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« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2015, 18:45 »
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I'm sorry to hear that you, or anybody, is pulling his stuff from micros.
But I can't agree with you that a smartphone is good enough for anything serious . I have the latest smartphone and its pictures are a joke.

Not sure what phone you have but the pics that come from my iPhone5 are pretty good and by no means a joke. Pics from my Lumia 1020 are scary good. There are some phones out there with mediocre cameras and you must have gotten one of them.


PaulieWalnuts

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« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2015, 19:04 »
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I was in buyers shoes some time ago. A friend of mine wanted a couple of cityscapes for an interior, to be printed big. So, I recommended him the maximum size, and I was the one to download them for him. I was so disappointed with the quality of this pictures. I guess it was an older APS sensor camera. And since it was not subscription, they were not cheap at all.I will never ever again buy from microstock for large prints, especially not from that particular photographer. And who is losing here? The photographer, of course!
So, saying that even a smartphone is an overkill for microstock is childish. Why shoot for microstock at all then? Do it proper way or don't do it at all.

Who said a smartphone is overkill? A smartphone is probably plenty for most micro situations especially the ones that are putting out over 20MP. I've seen people do really nice studio portfolio work with strobes and an Iphone. Plus, your competitive threat really isn't the pro photographer with the Canikon D7X Mark MCMXLV any longer. It's the bazillion ordinary Joes/Janes with camera phones.

I'm pulling all of my high resolution cityscape stuff out of micro. Prices and sales volume are in a downward spiral. To produce high resolution and quality cityscape pictures costs me a lot of money. New 50MP camera, lenses that can resolve 50MP, airfare, hotel, cabs, gas, food, and the list never ends. And what, for a few dollars? No thanks. Soon my images will only be available through me and it won't be at micro prices.

LOL, I got a -1 for this. For what?

The right smartphone is plenty good for micro.

And anybody who doesn't believe the average Joe/Jane phone user is a threat to you, good luck. Maybe you should take a look around at all of the companies that are using real people for their advertising by asking those people to send pics of them using their products. Hey look at me drinking a Coke having the time of my life with my friends at our summer cottage. It's brilliant and catching on like wildfire. The company gets  authentic looking pics instead of smily-cheesy-stock that buyers no longer want. Real people are endorsing their product which is exponentially more valuable than a staged model. Those companies used to pay a ton of money for custom contract shoots and stock photos. Now they get it for free from average Joe/Jane smartphone user.

So, go ahead and pile on more minuses. Doesn't really affect me if someone doesn't get it.
« Last Edit: January 30, 2015, 19:13 by PaulieWalnuts »

No Free Lunch

« Reply #25 on: January 30, 2015, 19:51 »
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This new camera is a 'Wall Breaker!'  ;)



« Reply #26 on: January 30, 2015, 20:02 »
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Great news, I guess. The question is how much will it cost?
http://photorumors.com/2015/01/30/this-is-the-new-50mp-canon-eos-5ds-eos-5ds-r-full-frame-dslr-camera/


I very much doubt it. Way too much of a shift from Canon's recent positions.

« Reply #27 on: January 30, 2015, 20:29 »
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50MP is more than overkill. like using a Ferrari to drive across town to do your shopping when a secondhand boneshaker is all u need.

The trouble is, the girls don't hang around my Hyundai outside the supermarket the way they do with my neighbour's Ferrari  :(
(And my pickup line of "Hi, girls, fancy a ride on my boneshaker" never seems to attract any interest, for some reason)

 ;D ;D ;D  nor are you going to attract too many skirts saying  you're a microstock photographer earning 33cts a picture when your other neighbour is tossing burgers  ;D ;D ;D

seriously,  this 50MP is still going to give you a 35mm digital format.

nofreelunch... do u mean to say BALL  buster???

No Free Lunch

« Reply #28 on: January 30, 2015, 21:20 »
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Sad part is that the folks getting this camera are just point and shoot folks that want to look good amongst their peers at social gathering (picnic, play-theater) - and the camera will in the 'Auto- Mode' setting  :-[


Beppe Grillo

« Reply #29 on: January 31, 2015, 03:22 »
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Sad part is that the folks getting this camera are just point and shoot folks that want to look good amongst their peers at social gathering (picnic, play-theater) - and the camera will in the 'Auto- Mode' setting  :-[

Except when I work in studio (using the Manual mode), the Auto mode has always been the best for me
What is your problem with Auto mode?

« Reply #30 on: January 31, 2015, 04:23 »
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My super duper Nikon D810 si way more than enough for me... Seriously guys, do you know how difficult is to keep your image tack sharp and without shake at 36mpix when zooming? And do you know how challenging is to find fitting glass of quality to match this sensor? Well, good luck with 50mpix :-)

« Reply #31 on: January 31, 2015, 05:19 »
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My super duper Nikon D810 si way more than enough for me... Seriously guys, do you know how difficult is to keep your image tack sharp and without shake at 36mpix when zooming? And do you know how challenging is to find fitting glass of quality to match this sensor? Well, good luck with 50mpix :-)

Yup - I've got some problems with camera shake on recent tripod-mounted shots from my 6D. I guess it needs mirror lock-up as well for longer exposures. 50MP must be like shooting large format, with hand-holding not really an option for anything more demanding than news.  I hadn't thought about the glass, but of course the small sensor size compared with old-time 4x5 or 8x10 inch negs (where a resolution of 40lp/mm was fine) means the glass would need to be considerably sharper to achieve the same sort of quality.

« Reply #32 on: January 31, 2015, 05:20 »
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;D ;D ;D  nor are you going to attract too many skirts saying  you're a microstock photographer earning 33cts a picture when your other neighbour is tossing burgers  ;D ;D ;D

38c, please!

PaulieWalnuts

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« Reply #33 on: January 31, 2015, 10:40 »
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My super duper Nikon D810 si way more than enough for me... Seriously guys, do you know how difficult is to keep your image tack sharp and without shake at 36mpix when zooming? And do you know how challenging is to find fitting glass of quality to match this sensor? Well, good luck with 50mpix :-)

I have a D800 and getting sharp images is no different than any other camera I've owned. As long as I apply basic photography rules I get good results. If I try shooting 300mm f/16 at 1/60 handheld I would expect the images not to be sharp on any camera.

Certain Canon lenses are excellent and I would expect those not to have any problem with 50MP.


« Reply #34 on: February 05, 2015, 14:54 »
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Who cares how much it costs? I don't have to buy it. The business buys it!  ;)

Uncle Pete

« Reply #35 on: February 05, 2015, 15:49 »
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Waiting, Waiting...

"Were told the embargo/NDA expires on Friday, February 6, 2015 for these upcoming products. These products would line up with the CP+ show in Japan next month.

    The two high megapixel cameras, with and without an AA filter. Resolution is said to be 53mp (though the pixel count is not CR3)
    The EOS Rebel T6i/750D.
    EF 11-24 f/4L
    EOS M3 Camera
    Various PowerShot cameras"

http://www.canonrumors.com/2015/01/big-announcements-coming-next-week-cr3/

I'm kind of wondering more about the T6i and what they are adding, and the M line (which I own the original, apparently they had a M2 which was never released in the US) So the 3 won't have some features of the invisible M2, like no WiFi (ho hum, I don't care) but rumored to have a remote, which is something I use.

Meanwhile the 11-14 seems to have leaked, and various Powershot cameras is more of "Exciting News" which isn't.  ;) That leaves the OP on this.

New 50-something MP full frame camera and the starting question. How much will it cost? More than I can afford is the easy answer, but it's still going to be fun to look at?

Rumor says, tomorrow will be the big news release, and just in case someone thinks I missed it. Tomorrow here is today in Japan in just minutes.

It's 5:49 AM  Friday, February 6, 2015 there, business day will start soon. (here it's 2:49PM)

« Reply #36 on: February 05, 2015, 23:08 »
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Pricing looks pretty good, time to upgrade I guess.

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PaulieWalnuts

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« Reply #38 on: February 06, 2015, 10:18 »
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Nice, but I'm waiting to see what Sony comes up with.

I love my NEX-7 and if they do 50MP in a similar size A-series body I have no reason to buy a DSLR. So nice to travel with one small light bag, small body and a couple lenses than a 50lb backpack full of stuff.

I also have a D800/28-300mm which is great but still big, bulky and heavy compared to the NEX. Plus Canon's 28-300mm is a monster so for my goal of downsizing, Canon as a whole doesn't fit my needs. I love my 5DMII but I haven't regularly used it in a couple years and my collection of Canon lenses are collecting dust. As time goes on neither Canon or Nikon seem to be the platform that fits my needs.

« Reply #39 on: February 06, 2015, 10:45 »
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Nice, but I'm waiting to see what Sony comes up with.

I love my NEX-7 and if they do 50MP in a similar size A-series body I have no reason to buy a DSLR. So nice to travel with one small light bag, small body and a couple lenses than a 50lb backpack full of stuff.

I also have a D800/28-300mm which is great but still big, bulky and heavy compared to the NEX. Plus Canon's 28-300mm is a monster so for my goal of downsizing, Canon as a whole doesn't fit my needs. I love my 5DMII but I haven't regularly used it in a couple years and my collection of Canon lenses are collecting dust. As time goes on neither Canon or Nikon seem to be the platform that fits my needs.
Totally agree. I still have my 5d2 plus various glass but am really enjoying MFT.

Uncle Pete

« Reply #40 on: February 07, 2015, 11:34 »
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Here's the 60 second B&H intro, includes the new T6i T6s  24MP Rebels - The difference between the two models is that the T6s features a topside LCD panel, a Quick Control Dial, an integrated Horizontal level and Built-in HDR in movie mode.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/explora/photography/news/canon-dslr-announcements-60-seconds-5ds-5ds-r-t6i-and-t6s?cm_mmc=EML-_-NewAnnouncement-CanonSamsung-_-150205-_-Body_Explora_Canon-5DS-FirstLookBttn

Interesting reply from B&H Rep. "Any advantage for video over the 5D III would be slim, if any.  So, if you mainly use your 7D for video, the 5D III might be the better option.  Also, keep in mind that with video, these cameras arent using their entire sensor: there is line skipping.  This means that the resolution of the sensor isnt something one can really go off to determine the video quality one can achieve. "

I'm happy with my ##-D series right now, not going to change just because something new comes out with a bigger MPs. When is size not a factor anymore?


« Reply #41 on: March 23, 2015, 18:23 »
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I won't be buying one of these new 50mp Canons.  I've seen the sample images and the full size quality looks rather disappointing to my eye - similar to APS-C with much more noise than my 5Dii.  Perhaps there will be an intermediate camera somewhere in the 32/36mp area, and I'll wait for that.

Uncle Pete

« Reply #42 on: March 23, 2015, 22:05 »
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Already here according to people I know who own them. 1D-X   8)


I won't be buying one of these new 50mp Canons.  I've seen the sample images and the full size quality looks rather disappointing to my eye - similar to APS-C with much more noise than my 5Dii.  Perhaps there will be an intermediate camera somewhere in the 32/36mp area, and I'll wait for that.

PaulieWalnuts

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« Reply #43 on: March 24, 2015, 07:05 »
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Nice that Canon finally made a move but I've already moved on from DSLRs. My 5DMII and D800 are collecting dust. I'm now shooting with a Sony A7R and will wait to see if Sony comes out with a 50MP version. Still have all of my Canon lenses and will do some testing on the A7R with a Metabones adapter.

« Reply #44 on: May 11, 2015, 12:31 »
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You who are buying this camera, are you going for the DS or DSR version?

I'm being tempted by the greater sharpness of the DSR version, but at the same time I'm afraid of excessive moire. I haven't seen anywhere any comparison between the versions (same scene with both models)

Which version are you going to buy?


 

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