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« Reply #75 on: January 26, 2012, 13:30 »
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Is it possible to "build our own" camera??  A la a Dell Computer???

Now that would be good.


« Reply #76 on: January 26, 2012, 13:39 »
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Is it possible to "build our own" camera??  A la a Dell Computer???

Now that would be good.

+1

« Reply #77 on: January 27, 2012, 01:00 »
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Is it possible to "build our own" camera??  A la a Dell Computer???

I'll take ...
- a 21MP APS-H sensor
- 8 fps
- Dual Digic 5 processors
- Infrared controller flash (pop-up if need be)
- ISO to 25,600 (max)
- Sensor cleaning
- whatever else....

etc.....

Just curious



Isn't that basically what the "RED" camera system is?
A modular system that allows one to pick and choose the specs.


« Reply #79 on: January 28, 2012, 02:49 »
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Is it possible to "build our own" camera??  A la a Dell Computer???

I'll take ...
- a 21MP APS-H sensor
- 8 fps
- Dual Digic 5 processors
- Infrared controller flash (pop-up if need be)
- ISO to 25,600 (max)
- Sensor cleaning
- whatever else....

etc.....

Just curious

Little off topic...

The only way that Canon will ''beat'' the new Nikon D400 ( with in my opinion will be a better camera than 7D) is to use an APS-H sensor with say 21MP and the ability to use EF-s lenses on the camera at a 16-17 MP final resolution.

5DMK3 certainly will have a full frame sensor, and 1DX is FF also. At this point the APS-H sensor is not in use  anymore ( except 1Dmk4 that will be discontinued eventually).

I believe this will be the smartest market move from canon.
« Last Edit: January 30, 2012, 02:59 by nicku »

PaulieWalnuts

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« Reply #80 on: February 02, 2012, 10:18 »
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Canon Rumors just posted an update with these specs. Blahhhhh.

I'm hoping this is wrong. If it's accurate, not sure what Canon is thinking. It's basically a slower performing version, and competitor to, their own 1DX. I can't see dropping $2,700 on something that's a slightly updated version of the 5DMII. Who would buy this? Not existing Canon people. Not people who are comparing a Nikon D800 to Canon's offerings.

Also, 22MP doesn't seem viable which makes me think it's BS. Why would Canon make a new 18MP sensor for the 1DX and what seems to be another barely bigger new 22MP sensor? I can't see being able to justify the costs.

   5D X
   22 mp
   61pt AF with DIGIC 4
   6.9 FPS
   DIGIC 5 (Doesnt say DIGIC 5+)
   Announcement February 28
   + with 3 lens
   Available April $2700

« Reply #81 on: February 02, 2012, 10:41 »
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^^^ To be honest the 1Dx was such a bizarre and disappointing offering (after a 4 year wait for a new 1Ds) that nothing would surprise me.

« Reply #82 on: February 02, 2012, 12:52 »
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If the 5D sticks at 22mp (which sure seems will happen) I can't believe Canon won't come out with a higher MP camera called something else.  They will need something to compete with the Nikon D800 (36MP) and medium format cameras in general (which are getting pretty cheap as well)

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« Reply #83 on: February 02, 2012, 12:59 »
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If the 5D sticks at 22mp (which sure seems will happen) I can't believe Canon won't come out with a higher MP camera called something else.  They will need something to compete with the Nikon D800 (36MP) and medium format cameras in general (which are getting pretty cheap as well)


That plus big megapixels are getting cheap. Entry level DSLRs are now pushing 16MP+. And the NEX-7 at 24MP is supposed to have as good, or possibly even better IQ than the 5DMII and will be a little over $1,000. If Canon is trying to not cannibalize their own sales they may not have noticed there are other cannibals besides themselves waiting to eat them.

« Reply #84 on: February 02, 2012, 16:57 »
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But are big megapixels still the driving force behind camera sales? I'm not quite sure how 36 megapixels will benefit me, especially if it comes with an increase in noise. Canon made the statement with the D1x that image quality should be the new driving factor, and I agree with them. Give me larger microlenses instead of more and more noisy pixels.

« Reply #85 on: February 02, 2012, 17:49 »
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   5D X
   22 mp
   61pt AF with DIGIC 4
   6.9 FPS
   DIGIC 5 (Doesnt say DIGIC 5+)
   Announcement February 28
   + with 3 lens
   Available April $2700

I hope the 61pt AF is going to be very good. With a decent AF and better dynamics and less noise = worthy successor to the 5D mk II.

On a sidenote: why would they throw away the "mark..." naming system, I always liked it: clear and systematic. What are they going to call the next one? 5D XY 6D X? 4D X?

Wonder what the lenses are going to be? I hope they don't update the 35/1.4 (because It's an old lens design and I just bought one!)
I'd very much like a 50/1.4 mk II. Or even a decent 28mm.
« Last Edit: February 02, 2012, 17:51 by Perry »

KB

« Reply #86 on: February 02, 2012, 17:54 »
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On a sidenote: why would they throw away the "mark..." naming system, I always liked it: clear and systematic. What are they going to call the next one? 5D XY 6D X? 4D X?
The 5D X Mark II, of course.  ;D

PaulieWalnuts

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« Reply #87 on: February 02, 2012, 21:52 »
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But are big megapixels still the driving force behind camera sales? I'm not quite sure how 36 megapixels will benefit me, especially if it comes with an increase in noise. Canon made the statement with the D1x that image quality should be the new driving factor, and I agree with them. Give me larger microlenses instead of more and more noisy pixels.

The Nikon D4 is aimed for performance shooters like sports and news. The D800 is aimed at shooters who require high resolution like landscape or medium format.

The Canon 1DX is aimed for performance shooters like sports and news. The 5DX is aimed at... uh... well...  ??? performance shooters who don't quite need as much performance?

If I had 36MP I could downsize or even crop to XXXL and have a lot of room to play with. Now if an image is so-so I normally downsize to L or M.

« Reply #88 on: February 03, 2012, 04:16 »
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5DX might be aimed at studio shooters who would also like performance for outdoor photography. If the specs are right, then I believe it's a smart move from Canon. Better focusing system is all I wanted on my 5d2. It sounds like a reasonable update. On the other hand, I fail to see how Nikon will get clean images from a 36 MP full frame sensor. I suspect you won't be able to "crop to xxxl" from a noisy / soft image, but rather downsize and there goes your MP advantage...

PaulieWalnuts

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« Reply #89 on: February 03, 2012, 06:33 »
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5DX might be aimed at studio shooters who would also like performance for outdoor photography. If the specs are right, then I believe it's a smart move from Canon. Better focusing system is all I wanted on my 5d2. It sounds like a reasonable update. On the other hand, I fail to see how Nikon will get clean images from a 36 MP full frame sensor. I suspect you won't be able to "crop to xxxl" from a noisy / soft image, but rather downsize and there goes your MP advantage...

I think if Sony can get near full frame quality from a 24MP crop sensor it shouldn't be too hard to get excellent quality from a 36MP full frame sensor.

And I'm not sure why everyone complains about the 5DMII's focusing. I've used if for everything including fast moving objects and it works fine. So just to have 61pts is worth spending $2,700? Not for me. If these specs are right I'll be taking the money I have set aside for the new 5D and picking up an NEX-7.

« Reply #90 on: February 03, 2012, 08:57 »
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5DX might be aimed at studio shooters who would also like performance for outdoor photography. If the specs are right, then I believe it's a smart move from Canon. Better focusing system is all I wanted on my 5d2. It sounds like a reasonable update. On the other hand, I fail to see how Nikon will get clean images from a 36 MP full frame sensor. I suspect you won't be able to "crop to xxxl" from a noisy / soft image, but rather downsize and there goes your MP advantage...

I think if Sony can get near full frame quality from a 24MP crop sensor it shouldn't be too hard to get excellent quality from a 36MP full frame sensor.

And I'm not sure why everyone complains about the 5DMII's focusing. I've used if for everything including fast moving objects and it works fine. So just to have 61pts is worth spending $2,700? Not for me. If these specs are right I'll be taking the money I have set aside for the new 5D and picking up an NEX-7.

I don't see NEX-7 image quality nowhere near full frame. But it's great for APS-C sensors. Check the noise on raw images, dpreview has them and compare to 60D for example. Sony did a great job with their jpeg engine and noise reduction algorithms but it's not enough, images get smudged after iso 400.
Without taking into account other aspects, such as very thin DOF that you can get on FF, your 14mm lens is a real 14mm, etc. - so I don't see how you'd want the NEX-7 over any FF.

« Reply #91 on: February 03, 2012, 09:08 »
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But are big megapixels still the driving force behind camera sales? I'm not quite sure how 36 megapixels will benefit me, especially if it comes with an increase in noise. Canon made the statement with the D1x that image quality should be the new driving factor, and I agree with them. Give me larger microlenses instead of more and more noisy pixels.

The Nikon D4 is aimed for performance shooters like sports and news. The D800 is aimed at shooters who require high resolution like landscape or medium format.

The Canon 1DX is aimed for performance shooters like sports and news. The 5DX is aimed at... uh... well...  ??? performance shooters who don't quite need as much performance?

If I had 36MP I could downsize or even crop to XXXL and have a lot of room to play with. Now if an image is so-so I normally downsize to L or M.

Yeah, you can downsize 36MP and still have room to spare, but you can downsize 100MP even more! 100MP on a standard 24x26 sensor would produce pure noise, and downsizing noise would just give you smaller noise. I'm not sure where it is, but there has to be a sweet spot in the middle somewhere. At 21MP I'm already at the XXL size on istock, so I don't really need more pixels. I just need the pixels I have to be cleaner. Larger microlenses would give me that, as well as far superior high ISO performance.

« Reply #92 on: February 03, 2012, 09:41 »
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5DX might be aimed at studio shooters who would also like performance for outdoor photography. If the specs are right, then I believe it's a smart move from Canon. Better focusing system is all I wanted on my 5d2. It sounds like a reasonable update. On the other hand, I fail to see how Nikon will get clean images from a 36 MP full frame sensor. I suspect you won't be able to "crop to xxxl" from a noisy / soft image, but rather downsize and there goes your MP advantage...

I think if Sony can get near full frame quality from a 24MP crop sensor it shouldn't be too hard to get excellent quality from a 36MP full frame sensor.

And I'm not sure why everyone complains about the 5DMII's focusing. I've used if for everything including fast moving objects and it works fine. So just to have 61pts is worth spending $2,700? Not for me. If these specs are right I'll be taking the money I have set aside for the new 5D and picking up an NEX-7.

+1

« Reply #93 on: February 10, 2012, 14:19 »
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Latest rumors from canonrumors.com ( http://www.canonrumors.com/2012/02/5d-split-5d-x-5d-mark-iii-cr1/ )


5D Split? 5D X & 5D Mark III [CR1]

Interesting thought
A split in the 5D line has been rumoured for a while now. This rumor was not submitted to me, instead it was sent to [NL]. Its consistent with some things I have heard, however take this one with a large grain of salt.

5D X

    45MP (With a pixel size similar to the power shot G1X)
    61 points AF (Similar to the 1DX but simpler)
    3.4 fps, 100-6400 (50-12800)
    1 Digic 5+ Digic 4

5D Mark III

    22MP
    61 points AF (Similar to the 1DX but simpler)
    6.9 fps, ISO 100-25600(50-51200)
    1 Digic 5+ Digic 4
    Best HD video quality of any EOS camera

« Reply #94 on: February 10, 2012, 14:42 »
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Yes, they talk about super-sampling on Mark III in video mode, witch is possible with 22MP. This will be a breakthrough in video if it is real.

« Reply #95 on: February 27, 2012, 07:40 »
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Leaked photos of the 5D Mark III
http://www.togtech.com/canon-5d-mark-iii/

PaulieWalnuts

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« Reply #96 on: February 27, 2012, 07:58 »
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$2,700 is down from $3,500 which looks more realistic but I'm still holding out for a higher MP version. I rarely shoot anything moving that fast that I can justify dropping that kind of money to get better focus. Plus better ISO performance is nice but I use a tripod before I go beyond ISO200 so again not worth it to me. Bring on the 5DX.

« Reply #97 on: February 27, 2012, 08:02 »
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$2,700 is down from $3,500 which looks more realistic but I'm still holding out for a higher MP version. I rarely shoot anything moving that fast that I can justify dropping that kind of money to get better focus. Plus better ISO performance is nice but I use a tripod before I go beyond ISO200 so again not worth it to me. Bring on the 5DX.

Yeah, I think the fact that this is called a 5D Mark III gives more evidence that we'll see a 5Dx coming.. since they seem to be naming all their cameras X this year.

« Reply #98 on: February 27, 2012, 08:29 »
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Apart from the little "Mark III" badge, which has one more "I", that camera appears to be identical in every respect to the Mk II.  Of course, it's quite possible that they are using the same body but it's also possible someone did a tiny bit of faking of numbers, isn't it?

« Reply #99 on: February 27, 2012, 08:57 »
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Apart from the little "Mark III" badge, which has one more "I", that camera appears to be identical in every respect to the Mk II.  Of course, it's quite possible that they are using the same body but it's also possible someone did a tiny bit of faking of numbers, isn't it?

no, it's different.

Before, the eos was in the smooth part and the 5D was in the grippy part.  Now both are in the middle.  There is also a mic hole just below the logo which wasn't there before.


 

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