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« Reply #50 on: February 04, 2016, 14:48 »
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Thanks Duncan for talking to us direct -a great example to other agencies. This may well be an additional revenue source for some contributors especially those who do not upload to print and product sites like FineArtAmerica and Redbubble. Personally, I requested the opt out as I do upload to them and like the ability to not only set my own mark up but also to change it whenever I like. I didn't want the FreeArt competing with that and certainly not by giving away 10x8 prints for nothing (the 25c I would have received doesn't really compare to $25 or more I would get at FAA).
Credit to Canstock for providing an individual opt out for this deal. Regards, David.

ETA Just received a reply to my support ticket from Duncan -confirming my opt out. Fast work!
« Last Edit: February 04, 2016, 14:58 by Newsfocus1 »


« Reply #51 on: February 04, 2016, 15:03 »
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Makes no sense at all to me.  Comparing a commercial sale to a designer is not the same as selling or giving away artwork to art buyers.

Totally different markets.  The only reason I have some cross over images (images in both stock and fine art) is because of their potential usage for either, but I'm not about to start applying the microstock pricing model to my fine art work.




« Reply #52 on: February 04, 2016, 15:20 »
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"...someone might be surprised by a 10% commission for the non-paper prints, but do keep in mind that this is reflective of the fact that they are extremely expensive items to produce, and unlike digital downloads a significant chunk of the sale price is taken up by the physical costs. "

So: in a nutshell, the product can't be produced and sold at a price that would allow paying the contributor enough to be worthwhile.  I guess that's clear enough.  That leaves us with "you'll make it up on volume" and "it will generate interest".   My opinion is that "free" only generates interest in more "free".   
« Last Edit: February 04, 2016, 15:33 by stockastic »

« Reply #53 on: February 04, 2016, 15:24 »
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Big thanks to Duncan for his post but a 10% commission does not work for me.  I'm opting out. 

« Reply #54 on: February 04, 2016, 15:35 »
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" they are extremely expensive items to produce"

So expensive that they can offer 10 eight x tens for a nominal shipping fee of $1.69.

My definition of innovative must be entirely different.  The business model of giving it away for free and then hoping people come back and spend money in the future isn't that new - it was invented by Wimpy back back in 1932 in the original Popeye cartoons.

"i'll gladly pay you tomorrow for a hamburger today"


« Reply #55 on: February 04, 2016, 15:49 »
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Requested opt out Duncan said he would do it :)

« Reply #56 on: February 04, 2016, 16:02 »
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Thank you, Duncan, for the direct answer - very refreshing !

However we have production costs,  too. What about them?


 If some third party takes on a (foolish ) business venture based on high production costs and low, possibly non existant revenue I'd be the fool to participate in that.
Free doesn't generate profit. Free generates more demand for free stuff. Nobody wants to spend money when they can get things  free.


« Reply #57 on: February 04, 2016, 16:33 »
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The business model of giving it away for free and then hoping people come back and spend money in the future isn't that new - it was invented by Wimpy back back in 1932 in the original Popeye cartoons.

"i'll gladly pay you tomorrow for a hamburger today"

LOL! Very apropos.

« Reply #58 on: February 04, 2016, 17:26 »
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a lot of sense Duncan. thanks

Ditto here, I'm staying opted in and will give it some time. I've been with Canstock since March 2005 and they have a good record of fairness.

« Reply #59 on: February 04, 2016, 22:45 »
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I got excited...  Opted out.

« Reply #60 on: February 05, 2016, 01:27 »
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I got excited...  Opted out.

ha...you belong to artist-not-friendly now.
 ;)

« Reply #61 on: February 05, 2016, 01:52 »
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a lot of sense Duncan. thanks

Ditto here, I'm staying opted in and will give it some time. I've been with Canstock since March 2005 and they have a good record of fairness.

I also appreciate Duncan's explanation.  This deal sounds reasonable to me. I'm not on any of the art sites like FAA, so  I'm happy to stay opted in and look forward to increased income from this additional revenue source.  If all agencies conducted themselves with as much transparency and consideration for the authors I might still be making a living at this.  Thanks Duncan.
« Last Edit: February 05, 2016, 01:56 by PixelBytes »

PZF

« Reply #62 on: February 05, 2016, 03:08 »
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Free attracts free and it's there in the name.

Need a nice flower print for a gift for a friend? 8 x 10, maybe with a nice frame, is perfect.
Need some stuff to sell on Ebay etc? 8 x 10 is pretty handy. I'll try a half dozen, for starters.
Need some pics to decorate my new B&B? Ok 8 x 10, even with a frame, isn't huge but - hey - it's not bad and the price is good. I'll have 3 per room......

Sigh................

« Reply #63 on: February 05, 2016, 08:10 »
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Duncan opted me out - no problem. I really think there should be an opt-out button - or even and opt-in button so that it's not a default situation. I sell my work on Fine Art America so I don't want to compete with myself on 10% commission.


 

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