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« on: December 29, 2010, 13:34 »
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I like very much this agency because of its easy submitting system and pretty good acceptation, it's a pity I have no sales!! I don't know what's the problem, not enought pupblicity or what? I find they way much friendly than SS, I wish they could raise among big four!!


« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2010, 14:23 »
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How long ago did you start with them?  I started in August and didn't see my first sale until September.

Give it some time.

« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2010, 14:40 »
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I have thousands of files there and get a sale every few days on average.

« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2010, 15:53 »
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I like very much this agency because of its easy submitting system and pretty good acceptation, it's a pity I have no sales!! I don't know what's the problem, not enought pupblicity or what? I find they way much friendly than SS, I wish they could raise among big four!!

Canstock pays the lowest royalites in the industry for subscriptions (25 cents) and also have very low prices and commissions for on demand downloads. Why would you want them in the big 4?


« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2010, 19:48 »
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somethingpret,

Actually, we pay a flat 50% commission for all credit and on-demand downloads - which is one of the highest in the industry. Regarding our subscription payout schedule, 2 of the 4 "Top Tier" agencies also have subscription payouts starting at the same rate.

When you consider our total commissions earned on a per-sale basis, you'll find that we have one of the highest averages in the industry.


Your comment on subscriptions is good spin:-) The reality however is somewhat different:

iS: Subscriptions are the same on iStock partner programs, but you can opt out of these.

SS: On Shutterstock they also start at 25 cents, but you if you are serious about microstock you will soon get 33 - 38 cents.

F: On Fotolia you start at 30 cents (and 35 for thier premium subscribtion)

DT: On Dreamstime all subscriptions are 35 cent to start with and best sellers give 70 cent pr download.

On Canstock you stay at 25 cents.

And that is the reason I'm not uploading to Canstock.

m@m

« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2010, 21:39 »
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somethingpret,

Actually, we pay a flat 50% commission for all credit and on-demand downloads - which is one of the highest in the industry. Regarding our subscription payout schedule, 2 of the 4 "Top Tier" agencies also have subscription payouts starting at the same rate.

When you consider our total commissions earned on a per-sale basis, you'll find that we have one of the highest averages in the industry.


Your comment on subscriptions is good spin:-) The reality however is somewhat different:

iS: Subscriptions are the same on iStock partner programs, but you can opt out of these.

SS: On Shutterstock they also start at 25 cents, but you if you are serious about microstock you will soon get 33 - 38 cents.

F: On Fotolia you start at 30 cents (and 35 for thier premium subscribtion)

DT: On Dreamstime all subscriptions are 35 cent to start with and best sellers give 70 cent pr download.

On Canstock you stay at 25 cents.

And that is the reason I'm not uploading to Canstock.
somethingpret... you're the same person that is trying to convince contributors to upload to Crestock on a different thread?....Hummmmm... :P...oh sorry write to them to convince administration to give .38 vs .25 per sub on one of the worst acceptance sites in the market...lol
« Last Edit: December 29, 2010, 23:40 by m@m »

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« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2010, 08:47 »
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I like Canstock - the upload is easy, the rejections are fair and not very severe, they are quick to review new uploads, and, with about 1000 images on the site, I have earned $144 in 2010 - helped with a couple of full priced downloads from some of the partners. Last month was $9, which is fine for a very low maintenance site.

Steve

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« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2010, 09:12 »
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I like Canstock -... with about 1000 images on the site, I have earned $144 in 2010.
Steve
Let's all rush over there straight away!  ::)

« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2010, 09:32 »
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I have been uploading since october, 200 files and 1 sale (.30 cent)

I don't care about subscritions, all sites have subs with low prices IMHO, I just would like a bit more sales :) they reviewers are very reasonable and their reviewing is the lowest I've seen

m@m

« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2010, 10:46 »
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I have been uploading since october, 200 files and 1 sale (.30 cent)

Agreed...a big seller they're not, but also with only 200 files in your portfolio your chances of making more sales are slim to none, try uploading more and pray for a sale from Fotosearch, they're rare but when they happen it kind of makes it worthwile...I know your pain ;)
« Last Edit: December 30, 2010, 11:37 by m@m »

« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2010, 20:25 »
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I started uploading to them late in Sept. Considering the fact that it's a middle tier site, and I'm new, I'm very happy with my sales there. The fast review times and acceptance rate are great!

« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2011, 14:19 »
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In a better world, CS would buy SS, integrate both portfolios, fire all SS reviewers and put CS one instead bmhahahahaha

« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2011, 15:52 »
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I like Canstock - the upload is easy, the rejections are fair and not very severe, they are quick to review new uploads, and, with about 1000 images on the site, I have earned $144 in 2010 - helped with a couple of full priced downloads from some of the partners. Last month was $9, which is fine for a very low maintenance site.

Steve

http://www.canstockphoto.com?r=32663


uh...$144 a year with 1000 images....you are earning $ .012 per image per month...you are earning one penny a month per image....I am doing slightly better with RPI of 2 cents per month.  worst RPI for any site.  Yes, 25 cents with no chance of raise after some sales does make it the lowest in the industry. Really about time to raise that number to 30-35 cents to be more in line with industry standard.  At least offer a higher tier for better sellers like dreamstime and shutterstock do.

Like everyone else I love the ease of upload so I do hope they succeed.  The 50% split is getting closer to what I consider fair.  Alamy still only takes 40% of sales which I feel is truly a much more ethical split. I wish more micros would follow the lead of Alamy who has now entered the micro market.

« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2011, 16:57 »
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DT: On Dreamstime all subscriptions are 35 cent to start with and best sellers give 70 cent pr download.
More than 70 cents, I have level V's and those subs bring in $1.05.  I have no level VI's but they must be a little more still.

lisafx

« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2011, 17:32 »
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[quote author=Pixart link=topic=12001.msg178923#msg178923
More than 70 cents, I have level V's and those subs bring in $1.05.  I have no level VI's but they must be a little more still.
[/quote]

Agreed.  I have had as much as $1.25 for a sub sale on DT. 

« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2011, 20:40 »
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Pixart, as far as I know, there are no level 6 images on Dreamstime. Level 5 is the higher one image can reach.

« Reply #17 on: January 08, 2011, 22:35 »
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Hmm.. I thought 100 sales gave a bump.  (Don't know, don't have any!)   Wonder why Lisa has $1.25 subs then, are there different prices of subs packages too?

« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2011, 08:39 »
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I love CanStock.  For me, it does about as well as BigStock in a race for the #5 slot on my list.  I mainly see $.50 commissions, with a bunch of $2.00 and $3.00 mixed in (and the odd occasional "Distribution Regular" commission amounts like $7.63 or $10.40 which seem to have replaced the $19.80 amounts we used to see).

I think it boils down to uploading stuff that people want.  If your stuff sells well at the other agencies, it will sell well at CanStock (relatively speaking).  That's my experience anyway.  To those complaining about low or no sales at CanStockPhoto or any other site, I suggest analyzing your port and asking yourself if your subject matter is the wrong mix.  Blaming the agencies isn't going to get you anywhere.

lagereek

« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2011, 11:40 »
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Well I have approx. 300 sales per/day from 5 other agencies but Canstock?  nothing AND they have the same shots. Im terminating my account there actually. However Ive done some research here and my type of heavy industry, engineering and technology, with people, isnt really what Canstock sell, i.e. buyers dont consult CanStockPhoto, for these kind of shots. It seems landscapes, nature and scenics, is the big thing there,  so its no reflection on them, theyre probably a very good agency, just maybe pigeonholed.

Microbius

« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2011, 12:11 »
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somethingpret... you're the same person that is trying to convince contributors to upload to Crestock on a different thread?....Hummmmm... :P...oh sorry write to them to convince administration to give .38 vs .25 per sub on one of the worst acceptance sites in the market...lol

In his/her defence he/she says they don't upload to Crestock and wont till commissions change.

« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2011, 13:09 »
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Well I have approx. 300 sales per/day from 5 other agencies but Canstock?  nothing AND they have the same shots. Im terminating my account there actually. However Ive done some research here and my type of heavy industry, engineering and technology, with people, isnt really what Canstock sell, i.e. buyers dont consult CanStockPhoto, for these kind of shots. It seems landscapes, nature and scenics, is the big thing there,  so its no reflection on them, theyre probably a very good agency, just maybe pigeonholed.

To be fair, you have 64 images online with us - but 1,650 on SS - 1,585 on IS - 1,185 on DT. I know you of course are aware of this, but it's important to put your experience into context. I'm sure if you also uploaded a similar number of images with us you would have significantly more sales. Instead of closing your account, I hope you'd consider uploading your remaining 1,500 images with us - with our fast approvals and submission system, you could do this with relatively minimal effort. Then I think you would have a much more positive sales experience to report back.

Cheers,

Duncan
« Last Edit: January 11, 2011, 13:11 by Duncan_CSP »

lisafx

« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2011, 13:12 »
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Wonder why Lisa has $1.25 subs then, are there different prices of subs packages too?

I just went back to see.  Turns out the subs sales that got me $1.26 were level five, and also exclusive assignment files. 

lagereek

« Reply #23 on: January 11, 2011, 17:28 »
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Well I have approx. 300 sales per/day from 5 other agencies but Canstock?  nothing AND they have the same shots. Im terminating my account there actually. However Ive done some research here and my type of heavy industry, engineering and technology, with people, isnt really what Canstock sell, i.e. buyers dont consult CanStockPhoto, for these kind of shots. It seems landscapes, nature and scenics, is the big thing there,  so its no reflection on them, theyre probably a very good agency, just maybe pigeonholed.

To be fair, you have 64 images online with us - but 1,650 on SS - 1,585 on IS - 1,185 on DT. I know you of course are aware of this, but it's important to put your experience into context. I'm sure if you also uploaded a similar number of images with us you would have significantly more sales. Instead of closing your account, I hope you'd consider uploading your remaining 1,500 images with us - with our fast approvals and submission system, you could do this with relatively minimal effort. Then I think you would have a much more positive sales experience to report back.

Cheers,

Duncan

Yeah maybe youre right, maybe I was too fast in judging.

best.

« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2011, 17:59 »
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somethingpret... you're the same person that is trying to convince contributors to upload to Crestock on a different thread?....Hummmmm... :P...oh sorry write to them to convince administration to give .38 vs .25 per sub on one of the worst acceptance sites in the market...lol

Edited.  Whoops. 
« Last Edit: January 13, 2011, 14:17 by djpadavona »

« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2011, 18:07 »
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uh...$144 a year with 1000 images....you are earning $ .012 per image per month...you are earning one penny a month per image....I am doing slightly better with RPI of 2 cents per month.  worst RPI for any site. 

I doubt that is correct.  They have sales, even if they are few and far between.  They rank in the middle tier consistently, which strongly suggests their RPI is significantly higher than the dozens of "low earners" which people seem to fall all over themselves to contribute to.


Yes, 25 cents with no chance of raise after some sales does make it the lowest in the industry. Really about time to raise that number to 30-35 cents to be more in line with industry standard. 

Totally agree.

« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2011, 18:11 »
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In a better world, CS would buy SS, integrate both portfolios, fire all SS reviewers and put CS one instead bmhahahahaha

Everyone gets a bad review batch from time to time.  But if you are consistently having problems with image approval at SS, then the problem is with your submissions.  If you want to blame SS and have all their reviewers fired, then plan on lots more rejections and not many sales.

« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2011, 18:45 »
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somethingpret... you're the same person that is trying to convince contributors to upload to Crestock on a different thread?....Hummmmm... :P...oh sorry write to them to convince administration to give .38 vs .25 per sub on one of the worst acceptance sites in the market...lol

Awesome catch.  Well done m@m.

Wherein lies the "awesome catch"? My point of view here and on the other thread about Crestock is pretty clear. I dont support Crestock nor Canstock because of the 25 cent subs....

« Reply #28 on: January 11, 2011, 18:51 »
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Oh, so you weren't supporting Crestock?  My bad then.

I still think you are way off though, once you factor in credit sales at Canstock.  My experience at Crestock was that most of my sales were subscription based.  Just the opposite at Canstock.  I hardly consider it a subs site.

m@m

« Reply #29 on: January 11, 2011, 20:35 »
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IMHO, criticizing an agency for their sub royalties, while asking the members of this forum to contact the administration of another and bargain for higher sub commissions still sounds strange to me...support or not, still questionable :P
« Last Edit: January 11, 2011, 20:50 by m@m »

« Reply #30 on: January 11, 2011, 22:21 »
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IMHO, criticizing an agency for their sub royalties, while asking the members of this forum to contact the administration of another and bargain for higher sub commissions still sounds strange to me...support or not, still questionable :P

why??

Microbius

« Reply #31 on: January 12, 2011, 04:13 »
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I don't get it either. In both cases you are criticising the agency for low sub commissions. In fact writing to them rather then just doing it here behind their backs makes a lot more sense.
What's wrong with writing to an agency you feel is low balling us and letting them know?
Somethingpretentious' attitude seems pretty consistent as far as I can see
« Last Edit: January 12, 2011, 04:17 by Microbius »

Microbius

« Reply #32 on: January 12, 2011, 04:16 »
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oops pressed quote rather instead of modify, please ignore!
« Last Edit: January 12, 2011, 04:18 by Microbius »

lagereek

« Reply #33 on: January 12, 2011, 04:42 »
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Holy cremoly!  I just up uploaded 25 shots here and they were all reviewed and OKd after an hour!! thats what I call FAST!!

« Reply #34 on: January 12, 2011, 19:46 »
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I don't get it either. In both cases you are criticising the agency for low sub commissions. In fact writing to them rather then just doing it here behind their backs makes a lot more sense.
What's wrong with writing to an agency you feel is low balling us and letting them know?
Somethingpretentious' attitude seems pretty consistent as far as I can see

I love it when absolute strangers stand up for me! thanks!

to djpadavona and m@m: let this rest - we largely agree...And if I was support Canstock or Crestock, I would definately also go for Canstock. I realize that Canstock is mainly a pay pr download site and crestock mainly a subscribtion site - I know this from the "junk images" I still have there from my earliest microstock days. Canstock also give a resonable pay pr download (attributed to fotosearch partner) whereas Crestock is ridicoulosly low...I just chose to not accept 25 cent under any circumstances....so im not uploading to Canstock nor Crestock, nor am I opted in for partner programs at iS. Very consistant in fact:-)

cheers!

Microbius

« Reply #35 on: January 13, 2011, 04:02 »
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Well I figured if absolute strangers can attack you on forums an anonymous defence may go some way to balancing the cosmos. ohm   ;)

« Reply #36 on: January 13, 2011, 10:43 »
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My apologies once again SP.  The insinuation was you had supported Crestock in another thread, and I bought it without checking things out for myself.  Guess I redefined "Assume."  Best of luck, and I hope you choose to support Canstock in the future.  I like their style.

« Reply #37 on: January 13, 2011, 11:05 »
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I think that many of us have some particular agency that is not lucky for us though we do our best.
I am at Canstock for few weeks and this month is for me better than Dreamstime so far. (Yes, I don't have a luck with DT but I won't give up.)

« Reply #38 on: January 13, 2011, 13:31 »
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Also count me in the Pro-Canstock group.

Looking at my past few days of sales and there's only a few $.25 commissions in the bunch.  Mainly .75, $1, $2, etc. 

Very fast and fair acceptances.  Very easy submitting process.  All interaction I've had with management and service folks has been a pleasure. 

And I've said it before, percentage-wise, CanStock is probably showing more growth for me than any other site lately.  They're about to eclipse BigStock for me and take the number 5 slot.

If your stuff sells well at the other micros, you stand to do quite well at CanStock.


 

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