For the 1st time on this site I see that my earnings declined - they are gradually going down during the last few months. And January doesn't looking great so far either. Hopefully it's just temporary.

For the 1st time on this site I see that my earnings declined - they are gradually going down during the last few months. And January doesn't looking great so far either. Hopefully it's just temporary.

Bad. Reviewing very very slow.

Quote from: davidbautista on January 18, 2019, 15:54

Quote from: stockman11 on January 18, 2019, 15:32

For the 1st time on this site I see that my earnings declined - they are gradually going down during the last few months. And January doesn't looking great so far either. Hopefully it's just temporary.

Bad. Reviewing very very slow.

I don't mind slow reviewing as long as the earnings are steadily stagnating or going up. This is currently not the case with me - despite the fact that I got new approved files in the past few months, earnings are going down. That's not good.

Same here. And yes the actually sent an email saying that they are reforming reviewing method. I don't know if that also include some change in the site that is also hurting sales.

slight downward trend, but that's also slowest time of year - they continue to be my 2nd or 3rd best after SS

Quote from: davidbautista on January 18, 2019, 15:54

Quote from: stockman11 on January 18, 2019, 15:32

For the 1st time on this site I see that my earnings declined - they are gradually going down during the last few months. And January doesn't looking great so far either. Hopefully it's just temporary.

Bad. Reviewing very very slow.

The sent this out on Dec 16th regarding reviewing:

Dear contributors,

Based on the recent survey feedback so many of you kindly provided, we�ll be making a few changes and focusing our attention on a rebuild of our underlying systems. Once it�s all done you�ll have a much more attractive and usable interface in Canva.

As we need to redirect our reviewing team to some of the new products we�re building, we�ll be putting a hold on reviewing new image submissions for the next month or so.

You�re welcome to continue uploading while reviewing is on hold if that�s what suits your workflow. All images will be stored and added into the system afterwards. If you prefer to stop uploading while you wait for us, that�s fine too.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Hopefully they will improve the way the site works for contributors

My earnings have halved over recent months, it seems that all $3.50 sales have disappeared - since their deal with iStock/Getty started. Number of sales have remained fairly static, but value dropped

Which deal?

Yes, in the last 3-4 months when I download from ESP the PDF with my sales I see under Agent column "Canva Pty Ltd COO / Portal".
So now Canva is selling my IS images but I get $0.15 instead of $0.35. And on top of this, these are the same files Canva approved at first and later deleted from my portfolio 

Canva the new One Dollar Club. Only $1.00 sales that pay us $0.35. Sounds familiar?

I you don't know what you're talking about you better shut your mouth up.

begin in october, with less than 200 images i did 35 dollar october and noveber, than increasing the number of file, december started good than from 15 december till now completely dead...zero 3,50 dollar sales, i had near 5  per month in the first two month.....january so far 1 dollar 5 sales...don't know what to think but seems something is gonna happen...ok is a trend of all agency, worst january so far from 2006. the worst has to come in my opinion. less demand of files and a multitude of content uploaded the results are pretty clear a smaller cake for tons of people more. nothing surprising. time to focus in released model images and quality.

Btw, Canva is also mine 2nd - 3rd best earner. And if weren't that deal with Getty, it would probably be the clear cut #2.

Yes, I agree. I think it is the deal with Getty that killed it. What a shame.

Quote from: Eco on January 19, 2019, 07:12

Canva the new One Dollar Club. Only $1.00 sales that pay us $0.35. Sounds familiar?

No it isn't. $1 sales are for one usage only. $10 sales are their equivalent of regular sales. It would be nice to get those $10 sales more often, but to me it's not rare to see the same file purchased for $1 multiple times in a row. So it's still good.

I totally understand it is for a single use only. However, if the multi-use license sales decline or totally disappear (as many of us are experiencing) this is only a small consolation. If you are interested in decent earnings, $0.35 a pop will not do it, especially with declining volume of sales due to the dilution from the Getty image dump. 

I have been doing this longer than most and seen it all. For example, a good month at SS is not determined by the number of subscription sales, but the number of higher value sales. When these higher value sales decline, total earnings decline dramatically. Canva will not be the first promising site that lost its luster due to decisions that did not favor contributors.

Canva is one of those companies that really brought something new to the market. I really hope that this trend of declining higher value sales at Canva is only temporary, but I am not holding my breath.

Quote from: stockman11 on January 19, 2019, 08:50

Quote from: Eco on January 19, 2019, 07:12

Canva the new One Dollar Club. Only $1.00 sales that pay us $0.35. Sounds familiar?

No it isn't. $1 sales are for one usage only. $10 sales are their equivalent of regular sales. It would be nice to get those $10 sales more often, but to me it's not rare to see the same file purchased for $1 multiple times in a row. So it's still good.

I totally understand it is for a single use only. However, if the multi-use license sales decline or totally disappear (as many of us are experiencing) this is only a small consolation. If you are interested in decent earnings, $0.35 a pop will not do it, especially with declining volume of sales due to the dilution from the Getty image dump. 

I have been doing this longer than most and seen it all. For example, a good month at SS is not determined by the number of subscription sales, but the number of higher value sales. When these higher value sales decline, total earnings decline dramatically. Canva will not be the first promising site that lost its luster due to decisions that did not favor contributors.

Canva is one of those companies that really brought something new to the market. I really hope that this trend of declining higher value sales at Canva is only temporary, but I am not holding my breath.

With changing the concept and with the higher prices, there would hardly be any sales at all. These small sales come in large volumes so the earnings from them are still significant, plus they are secure and consistent, which is VERY important. Bigger sales are nice, but they are sporadic, not consistent. This applies to both SS and Canva. Some may not like that but that's the state of the market and you can't go against that if you want to live from stock.

So Canva is doing a very good job, their only bad for us move is the deal with Getty, but they did that because they prioritize their earnings over ours, and there is no doubt that their earnings since that deal are going higher.

Been doing stock since 2006. I am sure there are many old timers that still remember the time when high value sales were both regular and in high volumes. I remember the days of 20-30 or more EL sales at SS in a month, every month. Not anymore. I guess we are now in the period where we will have to accept whatever is coming our way or quit. I can�t complain though - still doing quite well to make it worthwhile for me to continue.
 
I like Canva and I always hoped that they will be able to fill that loss of the declining sales at the other agencies. For me this never really happened, possibly because I joined them relatively late.  Based on what I see happening there now I cannot see that it will change anytime soon.  They will remain one of my low earners and it frustrates me to see only those $0.35 sales. You may have better luck and a wish to all the success.

 agree with you is not only canvas but any agency...where those frequent sales n fotolia? 7,5 dollar royalty till november were very common for me...gone...canva i had at least 10 sales of 3,5  the first two month with 200 images only...ss i on't even talk about completely disappeared el, same stock. to earn  4 5 k dollar , the minimum to have a business income...now you need sell near 10000 images per month, that means at least  300 at day with this rpd. micro stock is going to be just a hobbyist business...i doubt even those big factory are making great profits nowadays considering their big cost.

Been doing stock since 2006. I am sure there are many old timers that still remember the time when high value sales were both regular and in high volumes. I remember the days of 20-30 or more EL sales at SS in a month, every month. Not anymore. I guess we are now in the period where we will have to accept whatever is coming our way or quit. I can�t complain though - still doing quite well to make it worthwhile for me to continue.
 
I like Canva and I always hoped that they will be able to fill that loss of the declining sales at the other agencies. For me this never really happened, possibly because I joined them relatively late.  Based on what I see happening there now I cannot see that it will change anytime soon.  They will remain one of my low earners and it frustrates me to see only those $0.35 sales. You may have better luck and a wish to all the success.

Some people probably remember the good old macrostock days (not me, I'm much newer than you)... The thing is simple - more and more people want to spend as little money as possible on the images, which is why the bigger sales on SS and other sites are in less numbers than before. So trying to raise the prices would be a suicide. That's the state of the market nowadays, we can't go around it. All what agencies and us can do is keep the current state and not allow any further devaluation.

So as I said, all what Canva did bad for us is the Getty deal. Their prices are not the problem, they fit perfectly into the current market, which is a must nowadays if you want to have any success.

First time I've seen this.

Wonder what that is? Pity the royalty is still only $0.35.

Quote from: Eco on January 21, 2019, 00:36

Quote from: PhotoBomb on January 20, 2019, 19:11

First time I've seen this.

Wonder what that is? Pity the royalty is still only $0.35.

This is from the new the multi currencies feature, but the dashboard shows $ symbol. The sale is in another currency not USD. They create now a new contributor section and all this will be fixed. They still thinks about its contributors, i'm one of the first there and really like Canva (except the Getty deal).

Is the new contributor site ready?

Quote from: davidbautista on January 21, 2019, 07:03

Quote from: Deyan Georgiev on January 21, 2019, 01:14

Quote from: Eco on January 21, 2019, 00:36

Quote from: PhotoBomb on January 20, 2019, 19:11

First time I've seen this.

Wonder what that is? Pity the royalty is still only $0.35.

This is from the new the multi currencies feature, but the dashboard shows $ symbol. The sale is in another currency not USD. They create now a new contributor section and all this will be fixed. They still thinks about its contributors, i'm one of the first there and really like Canva (except the Getty deal).

Is the new contributor site ready?

No, it will take a couple of months.

Well let's see how the new site improve things. Hopefully they realize the Getty deal was a disaster and try to fix it

Quote from: stockman11 on January 20, 2019, 12:36

Quote from: Eco on January 20, 2019, 10:29

Been doing stock since 2006. I am sure there are many old timers that still remember the time when high value sales were both regular and in high volumes. I remember the days of 20-30 or more EL sales at SS in a month, every month. Not anymore. I guess we are now in the period where we will have to accept whatever is coming our way or quit. I can�t complain though - still doing quite well to make it worthwhile for me to continue.
 
I like Canva and I always hoped that they will be able to fill that loss of the declining sales at the other agencies. For me this never really happened, possibly because I joined them relatively late.  Based on what I see happening there now I cannot see that it will change anytime soon.  They will remain one of my low earners and it frustrates me to see only those $0.35 sales. You may have better luck and a wish to all the success.

Some people probably remember the good old macrostock days (not me, I'm much newer than you)... The thing is simple - more and more people want to spend as little money as possible on the images, which is why the bigger sales on SS and other sites are in less numbers than before. So trying to raise the prices would be a suicide. That's the state of the market nowadays, we can't go around it. All what agencies and us can do is keep the current state and not allow any further devaluation.

So as I said, all what Canva did bad for us is the Getty deal. Their prices are not the problem, they fit perfectly into the current market, which is a must nowadays if you want to have any success.

Is it people looking to spend less and less? Or is it the agencies representing us that are competing with each other so much that they have decided to lower prices - the customer is still happy to pay whatever the price is for the image they want, it is the agencies that dictate the price, not the customers.

i agree..
in my opinion they should have raised the price even from beginning...1 dollar minimum was already to low for the time, considering before company spent 50 100 dollar for same usage. they could have asked 3 5 dollar aup...nowadays they are facing a big challenge, the big number of free images offered...if i browse unspalsh in most cases i found the quality more like stocksy than micro, more creative...and they are free! apart released file, but i suspect many don't care a dim in this world about using an unreleased file, customer now have the opportunity to save hundreds of dollar of extended licensed files, those that   sold in the past in ss and made a month good or bad...who will spend 300 dollar for a landscape files? or food? or  still life? when they can spend zero moose the tie for a better files?
at this point i wish ss will lower those price of enhanced, better collect 10 15 dollar but re begin selling extend license at a pace that make a month good or bad...if i sell 20 extended at 15 is much better than zero at 79 or 100.
but the race towards the bottom is unfortunately unstoppable. the only thing we can do is   focus on quality and other way to sell. but again we are facing a big competition, in instagram everybody is a photographer and probably there are 100 200 million of potential professions, while the market can absorb probably not more than 50k.
tough game.

Quote from: stockman11 on January 20, 2019, 12:36

Quote from: Eco on January 20, 2019, 10:29

Been doing stock since 2006. I am sure there are many old timers that still remember the time when high value sales were both regular and in high volumes. I remember the days of 20-30 or more EL sales at SS in a month, every month. Not anymore. I guess we are now in the period where we will have to accept whatever is coming our way or quit. I can�t complain though - still doing quite well to make it worthwhile for me to continue.
 
I like Canva and I always hoped that they will be able to fill that loss of the declining sales at the other agencies. For me this never really happened, possibly because I joined them relatively late.  Based on what I see happening there now I cannot see that it will change anytime soon.  They will remain one of my low earners and it frustrates me to see only those $0.35 sales. You may have better luck and a wish to all the success.

Some people probably remember the good old macrostock days (not me, I'm much newer than you)... The thing is simple - more and more people want to spend as little money as possible on the images, which is why the bigger sales on SS and other sites are in less numbers than before. So trying to raise the prices would be a suicide. That's the state of the market nowadays, we can't go around it. All what agencies and us can do is keep the current state and not allow any further devaluation.

So as I said, all what Canva did bad for us is the Getty deal. Their prices are not the problem, they fit perfectly into the current market, which is a must nowadays if you want to have any success.

Is it people looking to spend less and less? Or is it the agencies representing us that are competing with each other so much that they have decided to lower prices - the customer is still happy to pay whatever the price is for the image they want, it is the agencies that dictate the price, not the customers.

If there are less large sales on all the main agencies, lower prices or not, but people still spend the same, where do people spend that money now? Where did the big sales go? Or people really do spend less money now than before?

Behavior of the buyers plays a huge role in our earnings. If there were a higher prices since the beginning of microstock, that would be probably ok in the beginning, but would it be now? Why are some people so sure that the sales nowadays wouldn't drop even more with those higher prices?

Of course, I'm not saying let's drop the prices even more to make the buyers happy, I'm saying we should meet with the buyers in the optimal spot - the spot which will gives us the highest earnings. People who think raising prices 10x would do good for us are too emotional and delusional. Too bad that reality isn't better, but it is what it is, which is why microstock > macrostock.

For the first time in January Canva became my best earner in front of SS, and this despite having a couple of good footage sales on SS.
I don't understand why Canva is not even in the middle tier agencies.

For the first time in January Canva became my best earner in front of SS, and this despite having a couple of good footage sales on SS.
I don't understand why Canva is not even in the middle tier agencies.

Needs 50 votes to get a rating and tier number. 

Quote from: dutourdumonde on February 06, 2019, 11:20

For the first time in January Canva became my best earner in front of SS, and this despite having a couple of good footage sales on SS.
I don't understand why Canva is not even in the middle tier agencies.

Needs 50 votes to get a rating and tier number.

I did not know.

I thought January was pretty bad, but February said "hold my beer". I hope it picks back up and isn't a permanent change.

Sales are very poor, thanks Canva for merging database with getty images.

Quote from: Dumc on February 08, 2019, 12:15

Sales are very poor, thanks Canva for merging database with getty images.

Does anyone know what amount Getty/istock contributors receive from Canva sales?

$0.15 and $1.50