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luissantos84

« on: November 09, 2011, 16:37 »

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http://crestockcorporation.cmail3.com/t/ViewEmail/r/6A57F9891946BE99/B7A954AA01E28044F1E87EB810D8F10A


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Zeus

« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2011, 16:41 »

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So is Elivs http://www.elvis-is-alive.com/

So is JFK http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread410734/pg1

So is Princess Diana http://www.surrealscoop.com/2007/04/princess-diana-found-alive.html

There is trend here, I'm just not sure what it is.


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microstockphoto.co.uk

« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2011, 16:44 »

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Great!
I just calculated that if I keep selling at the current rate I will reach the 30% royalty in 2022


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luissantos84

« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2011, 16:44 »

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LOL exactly


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jsnover

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« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2011, 16:46 »

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I never contributed to Crestock (not even prior to exclusivity in 2008), but if Masterfile has any reasonable sales traffic, this might make putting my portfolio there an interesting possibility.

Does anyone have any knowledge of Masterfile and an opinion of how likely this is to revive the moribund Crestock?


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« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2011, 17:00 »

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I started uploading to Crestock six months ago. It's definitely low earner but I have more downloads there than on ScanStock, StockFresh, Yay, Zoonar, Cutcaster and FeaturePics together. As for earnings it's much worse: more that 90% of downloads are 0,25 subscriptions.


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CD123

« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2011, 17:03 »

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Before sales can pick up their reviewers must still get either fired or retrained ("trained"?) to know what a good image looks like. They have the worst record IMO of all sites in image selection, that is one of the reasons I stopped uploading a few months ago (the other one is sales, but who whats to buy the images the other agencies rejected?).


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ThomasAmby

« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2011, 17:04 »

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I don't remember the old rates. But I was just looking at some sales history.

I sold a small image and got $1.2 of 4 = 30%
I sold a medium image and got $1.8 of 6 = 30%
I sold a vector and got $4.5 of $15 = 30%

As I have between 200 - 999 sales I will have to accept a new royalty percentage of 25% instead of 30% - so this would appear to be a paycut for me, right? Way to put it

ETA: I was just contacted by the CEO of Crestock who told me they were grandfathering all contributors so nobody will be getting a paycut. Good news

From the Artist Image Upload Agreement, section 13.1.4: “To the extent that this Artist Agreement replaces prior agreements between you and Crestock, the Royalty Rate calculated herein will not be retroactive.”


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Noedelhap

« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2011, 17:04 »

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It sells horribly. I've made about $10 in a year, the result of 20 vector sales, most of which were subscription sales.

But any raise for contributors is positive. Better than a paycut, and it shows they are committed to the site.

But stats speak louder than words:

http://siteanalytics.compete.com/crestock.com/
Unique Visitors: 98,921

http://siteanalytics.compete.com/masterfile.com/
Unique Visitors: 26,339


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« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2011, 17:05 »

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Quote from: jm73 on November 09, 2011, 17:00

I have more downloads there than on ScanStock, StockFresh, Yay, Zoonar, Cutcaster and FeaturePics together.

Any site looks alive and kicking compared to corpses like Zoonar and FailedPics.


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ThomasAmby

« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2011, 17:07 »

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CD123

« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2011, 17:08 »

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Had 11 sales in 8 months with total value $3.10 (making it hugely successful against Zoonar's zero sales for $0 during same period... Cheesy


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Will

« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2011, 18:25 »

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Quote from: jsnover on November 09, 2011, 16:46

Masterfile is a very good RM site. I was a contributor to their library for many years as exclusive and can honestly say they were always upfront and treated their artists very well! In my opinion, because of their honest business ethics and focus on "quality" (for lack of a better word), I'm pretty sure Crestock will gradually rise in profitability for artists. Of course we would all prefer a higher royalty percentage than what is being offered.


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CoisaX

« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2011, 18:26 »

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~~For some people is a commission cut.~~

8 months - 5 images sold + 1 image donate for free ( one week ). 6.25$

But i'm a believer Grin

ETA: Crestock CEO was a bit more specific about these changes: Who already reach an higher %, will keep it, even if with new comission ratings policy could lower it.


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lisafx

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« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2011, 18:48 »

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Quote from: jsnover on November 09, 2011, 16:46

Masterfile bought them over a year ago, didn't they? Back when that happened I started uploading there again in hopes sales would pick up. If anything they got worse. Sales at Crestock are the worst of the 14 sites I contribute to.

These changes look positive, and are quite welcome after the royalty cuts elsewhere. I will wait to see if sales improve before I get too excited though.


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helix7

« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2011, 19:06 »

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I fall into the 30% tier so no change in pay for me. Hope the Masterfile inclusion helps, though. Things are generally pretty slow at Crestock.


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luissantos84

« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2011, 19:47 »

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Quote from: CoisaX on November 09, 2011, 18:26

For some people is a commission cut.

for almost everybody, don´t believe that are many contributors with over 1k sales


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jsnover

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« Reply #17 on: November 09, 2011, 20:20 »

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Quote from: lisafx on November 09, 2011, 18:48

What's new is that they're going to put Crestock content onto the Masterfile site - I thought that was something they had not previously done, but if I'm wrong, being 14/14 on Lisa's list of sites isn't much of a recommendation


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Microbius

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« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2011, 02:25 »

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I've just made it to 35% so I'm very happy with the changes.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed for Masterfile sales.


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rubyroo

« Reply #19 on: November 10, 2011, 03:33 »

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I'm repeating myself here (from way back) but I never bothered with Crestock because of that 'Judge Ross' thing. I found that so unnecessary. Is that still there?


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ibogdan

« Reply #20 on: November 10, 2011, 03:37 »

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No, it's long gone


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rubyroo

« Reply #21 on: November 10, 2011, 03:57 »

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Glad to hear that! Thanks for the update


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dirkr

« Reply #22 on: November 10, 2011, 05:12 »

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I never contributed to them. 20% and 0,25 for subs doesn't make me want to.


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rubyroo

« Reply #23 on: November 10, 2011, 05:25 »

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Yes agreed, it's still too low. Even without 'the judge' I'll hold off from uploading unless they make a more attractive offer. Same applies to PhotoDune for me.


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lisafx

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« Reply #24 on: November 10, 2011, 13:30 »

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Quote from: jsnover on November 09, 2011, 20:20

You're right, they haven't been on the Masterfile site. I just assumed that when Masterfile bought them the images would be there. Hadn't realized that in over a year they had never been added. Maybe this will make a difference.

I am at the 30% level, so at least I get a little raise.

I've been disappointed before though, so I will wait and see before getting too excited about this.


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