Author Topic: I think Crestock is refusing to pay me (Read 24263 times)

Milinz · « **Reply #25 on:** March 27, 2009, 03:03 »

Quote from: FlemishDreams on March 26, 2009, 23:32

Quote from: Lcjtripod on March 26, 2009, 20:26
I bet they have lawyers and will take cases. Yes, it is last resort, but better than doing nothing.

How will you find a lawyer in Hungary? Pay 1000$ to recup 10$ in earnings? The problem seems to be Moneybookers since Paypal works fine and Leaf reported regular payouts. Let's not be taken away by urban legends.

Nah... Not Moneybookers is a problem at all... Moneybookers is regulated under British FSA - they have strict rules how to make that service work and they are very serious about it. There are some papers about your identity and companies identities needed to be enclosed to them that you may even be able to use their services (unlike PayPal). What was the problem about papers is that US citizens used Moneybookers for ON-LINE gambling which is forbidden in the US and diplomacy worked. So, they now don't allow US citizens to even use Moneybookers.
If Crestock is located anywhere else in Europe or Asia or Africa, they may finish their papers within days if they are legal business. I have had two identity checks from Moneybookers due to sums accumulated which are not for joke and all papers I got from my bank I sent to them. In just few days issues vanished. Crestock obviously can't give them papers they need. Nevertheless, StockXpert is located in Hungary and I never had any payment problem with them and my regular monthly payouts!

Lizard · « **Reply #26 on:** March 27, 2009, 03:16 »

Quote from: FlemishDreams on March 26, 2009, 23:32

Quote from: Lcjtripod on March 26, 2009, 20:26
I bet they have lawyers and will take cases. Yes, it is last resort, but better than doing nothing.

How will you find a lawyer in Hungary? Pay 1000$ to recup 10$ in earnings? The problem seems to be Moneybookers since Paypal works fine and Leaf reported regular payouts. Let's not be taken away by urban legends.

The same way you would find him in any other country , and you would still have the same problem.
I don't know whats the thing between you and Hungary , but Crestock seems to be from Norway , but that doesn't change a thing.

Anyway , their explanation about the problem with moneybookers is somewhere near strange , like they are unable to set a bank account and moneybookeres account in same persons name , I wonder how did
they menage to work that way all this time.

Then their board members are busy people so they have no time to open the account in their names and sign few papers , then when they finally find the time, then the bank managed to open their account with wrong name.
How can a bank open a account in wrong name ? Then they make a transfer from that wrong name bank account and the money is lost in space.

It is perfectly logic to me that moneybookers refuse transfers when the bank account is at one name and moneybookers account to another , and I think 5 months is more than enough to set those 2 accounts
cause we all had to do the same thing , and from all the people I know , no one had any major problems.

A person wrote on their forum that she is waiting for payout from 01.09.08 , I first contacted them in mid November , and there are more people like us there.

And if its only moneybookers problem , why did they offered me direct bank transfer , and when I accepted they don't reply to my mails , and are being quiet on their forums about that ?

Milinz · « **Reply #27 on:** March 27, 2009, 03:21 »

Quote from: Lizard on March 27, 2009, 03:16

Quote from: FlemishDreams on March 26, 2009, 23:32
Quote from: Lcjtripod on March 26, 2009, 20:26
I bet they have lawyers and will take cases. Yes, it is last resort, but better than doing nothing.

How will you find a lawyer in Hungary? Pay 1000$ to recup 10$ in earnings? The problem seems to be Moneybookers since Paypal works fine and Leaf reported regular payouts. Let's not be taken away by urban legends.

The same way you would find him in any other country , and you would still have the same problem.
I don't know whats the thing between you and Hungary , but Crestock seems to be from Norway , but that doesn't change a thing.

Anyway , their explanation about the problem with moneybookers is somewhere near strange , like they are unable to set a bank account and moneybookeres account in same persons name , I wonder how did
they menage to work that way all this time.

Then their board members are busy people so they have no time to open the account in their names and sign few papers , then when they finally find the time, then the bank managed to open their account with wrong name.
How can a bank open a account in wrong name ? Then they make a transfer from that wrong name bank account and the money is lost in space.

It is perfectly logic to me that moneybookers refuse transfers when the bank account is at one name and moneybookers account to another , and I think 5 months is more than enough to set those 2 accounts
cause we all had to do the same thing , and from all the people I know , no one had any major problems.

A person wrote on their forum that she is waiting for payout from 01.09.08 , I first contacted them in mid November , and there are more people like us there.

And if its only moneybookers problem , why did they offered me direct bank transfer , and when I accepted they don't reply to my mails , and are being quiet on their forums about that ?

Gordan, as I said... Put your bank transfer instructions to their forum. They will be thrilled to send you your money! After that - just dump that amateurs. BTW if they don't send you money, then I beleive some police business is to be done. We can put pressure on them via Stock Artist Alliance (SAA) - which I've already done and ring the bells everywhere! Sum is not for joke knowing that they earned at least $1500 on that your $500!

Eco · « **Reply #28 on:** March 27, 2009, 05:01 »

Still waiting for my Moneybookers payment. It is now 2 half months.

leaf · « **Reply #29 on:** March 27, 2009, 06:44 »

For those who haven't found it, here was the latest update from Crestock

http://www.crestock.com/forum/general-help/Updates-regarding-Crestock-payouts-via-Moneybookers-5063.aspx

I agree, the waiting time is really unacceptable. But the point us paypal users are trying to make is that I really don't think crestock is trying to scam anyone. They are making payments with paypal, so they have the funds available, and have had ridiculous unnecessary problems with money bookers. Either way, I sure hope they get this cleared up ASAP, for their own sake if nothing else.

Milinz · « **Reply #30 on:** March 27, 2009, 08:17 »

Quote from: leaf on March 27, 2009, 06:44

For those who haven't found it, here was the latest update from Crestock

http://www.crestock.com/forum/general-help/Updates-regarding-Crestock-payouts-via-Moneybookers-5063.aspx

I agree, the waiting time is really unacceptable. But the point us paypal users are trying to make is that I really don't think crestock is trying to scam anyone. They are making payments with paypal, so they have the funds available, and have had ridiculous unnecessary problems with money bookers. Either way, I sure hope they get this cleared up ASAP, for their own sake if nothing else.

Ridiculous you say? Papers asked about running business and bank details from financial institution which need to transfer your money to Crestocks contributors is quite clever move in order of stopping money lounering...

If they can't provide such papers they are running illegal business - which comes to money loudering and several other law breaks...

leaf · « **Reply #31 on:** March 27, 2009, 09:21 »

Quote from: Milinz on March 27, 2009, 08:17

Quote from: leaf on March 27, 2009, 06:44
For those who haven't found it, here was the latest update from Crestock

http://www.crestock.com/forum/general-help/Updates-regarding-Crestock-payouts-via-Moneybookers-5063.aspx

I agree, the waiting time is really unacceptable. But the point us paypal users are trying to make is that I really don't think crestock is trying to scam anyone. They are making payments with paypal, so they have the funds available, and have had ridiculous unnecessary problems with money bookers. Either way, I sure hope they get this cleared up ASAP, for their own sake if nothing else.

Ridiculous you say? Papers asked about running business and bank details from financial institution which need to transfer your money to Crestocks contributors is quite clever move in order of stopping money lounering...

If they can't provide such papers they are running illegal business - which comes to money loudering and several other law breaks...

By ridiculous I was referring to getting the spelling wrong of the name of a board member on the money transfer. That is a ridiculous unnecessary problem that shouldn't of happened.

snaprender · « **Reply #32 on:** March 27, 2009, 10:04 »

The fact that it apparently took months to get someone to sign the papers because they're 'busy' is beyond ridiculous. So glad I closed my account there months ago..whew.

Snaprender

lisafx · « **Reply #33 on:** March 27, 2009, 13:29 »

Quote from: leaf on March 27, 2009, 02:13

yes, I was paid out again this month.

Me too. Just got mine via paypal this morning. It took 9 days from the time of request. While that is not lightening fast, it is certainly well within the range of acceptibility.

I feel bad for Lizard and if I were in his shoes I would be mad too. But I would hesitate to tar the whole company based on the experience of one contributor.

Milinz · « **Reply #34 on:** March 27, 2009, 14:05 »

Quote from: lisafx on March 27, 2009, 13:29

Quote from: leaf on March 27, 2009, 02:13
yes, I was paid out again this month.

Me too. Just got mine via paypal this morning. It took 9 days from the time of request. While that is not lightening fast, it is certainly well within the range of acceptibility.

I feel bad for Lizard and if I were in his shoes I would be mad too. But I would hesitate to tar the whole company based on the experience of one contributor.

No really... They are behaving as lords of all people who give them their images on sale... I doubt that such Lordship is well accepted in majority of Crestock contributors... As I am aware and well informed - many people are just waitng to make payout money and then to run as far from Crestock as they can go... Whch will be very clever thing to do ;-)

sharpshot · « **Reply #35 on:** March 27, 2009, 14:26 »

I requested a payout with paypal yesterday and received it today. That is the quickest payout I have had with them. I am still alarmed seeing that other people are having problems. Doesn't make me want to start uploading again.

lisafx · « **Reply #36 on:** March 27, 2009, 14:27 »

Quote from: Milinz on March 27, 2009, 14:05

No really... They are behaving as lords of all people who give them their images on sale... I doubt that such Lordship is well accepted in majority of Crestock contributors... As I am aware and well informed - many people are just waitng to make payout money and then to run as far from Crestock as they can go... Whch will be very clever thing to do ;-)

Sorry, can you give me some examples of the "lordly" behavior? I have 4400 pics there and haven't had any problems with them.

Not saying it isn't happening, but so far the only example given is one unfortunate person who hasn't been paid. Any more situations like this?

Lizard · « **Reply #37 on:** March 27, 2009, 14:54 »

Quote from: lisafx on March 27, 2009, 14:27

Quote from: Milinz on March 27, 2009, 14:05

No really... They are behaving as lords of all people who give them their images on sale... I doubt that such Lordship is well accepted in majority of Crestock contributors... As I am aware and well informed - many people are just waitng to make payout money and then to run as far from Crestock as they can go... Whch will be very clever thing to do ;-)

Sorry, can you give me some examples of the "lordly" behavior? I have 4400 pics there and haven't had any problems with them.

Not saying it isn't happening, but so far the only example given is one unfortunate person who hasn't been paid. Any more situations like this?

Yes there are , two people that dont use or dont want to use their forum contacted me on another site PP , apparently they are also waiting for months and their e-mails haven't been answered.

Someone that wrote at their forum is beating my waiting record for good , and waits from 01.09.08 ( so that would be almost 7 months if I'm right) , and few more people claim they are waiting for months so I'm apparently not a separate case.

There are even people who claim they requested paypal payment and have been waiting for months , but I don't know if they have been paid.

Eco · « **Reply #38 on:** March 27, 2009, 15:06 »

Quote from: lisafx on March 27, 2009, 14:27

Not saying it isn't happening, but so far the only example given is one unfortunate person who hasn't been paid. Any more situations like this?

Sorry Lisa, but this problem is not a new one and not restricted to one person only. I am now waiting 2 and a half months for my payment and this is not the first time. Read this:

http://www.crestock.com/forum/general-help/Updates-regarding-Crestock-payouts-via-Moneybookers-5063.aspx

and you will see that there are many more with similar problems.

I actually like Crestock, but lately I must say that I am very disappointed in the way that they deal with problems like this. Communication is poor and the impression is created that they don't take this problem seriously. Not being able to pay contributors is VERY SERIOUS in my opinion, and the problem cannot be excused due to the fact that some contributors are actually been paid. It just seems logical that this should be dealt with as a matter of priority. Apparently not.

lisafx · « **Reply #39 on:** March 27, 2009, 16:24 »

I agree its serious. Thanks for posting further examples.

One person not being paid is an example of a screw up, but a bunch of people looks more like a pattern.

icefront · « **Reply #40 on:** March 27, 2009, 18:38 »

Quote from: FlemishDreams on March 26, 2009, 19:08

Quote from: Lcjtripod on March 26, 2009, 18:57
Try a lawyer or collection agency at their city.

They are in Hungary. Yap, good luck.

StockXpert is from Hungary
http://www.haap.hu/

Crestock is from Norway
http://www.crestock.com/contact.aspx

madelaide · « **Reply #41 on:** March 27, 2009, 19:14 »

Quote from: icefront on March 27, 2009, 18:38

Crestock is from Norway
http://www.crestock.com/contact.aspx

I was going to check that, because unless something had changed, I remember they were in Norway.

loop · « **Reply #42 on:** March 27, 2009, 19:22 »

Yes, they are in Norway, that is obvious, far away from Hungary.

null · « **Reply #43 on:** March 27, 2009, 21:35 »

Quote from: icefront on March 27, 2009, 18:38

StockXpert is from Hungary
Crestock is from Norway

Stupid me!

Milinz · « **Reply #44 on:** March 28, 2009, 18:11 »

Quote from: lisafx on March 27, 2009, 14:27

Quote from: Milinz on March 27, 2009, 14:05

No really... They are behaving as lords of all people who give them their images on sale... I doubt that such Lordship is well accepted in majority of Crestock contributors... As I am aware and well informed - many people are just waitng to make payout money and then to run as far from Crestock as they can go... Whch will be very clever thing to do ;-)

Sorry, can you give me some examples of the "lordly" behavior? I have 4400 pics there and haven't had any problems with them.

Not saying it isn't happening, but so far the only example given is one unfortunate person who hasn't been paid. Any more situations like this?

Lucky You! It seems they like your images or resolution of your camera... More than 12Mpix? I've got impression there they were rejecting on random way or someone works there who hates me... Which now seems to be the case on some other site... And I am not member on Crestock anymore due to that random rejections as well as due to reported problems from other ex members...

lisafx · « **Reply #45 on:** March 28, 2009, 18:18 »

^^ I thought this thread was about payout problems. Now we are talking about rejections?

Sure, I have gotten some rejections there I don't agree with, like on most other sites. My strategy is to just keep submitting the best work I can produce and hope they take more than they reject.

BTW, it is hard to figure their rejection standards. For example there are a bunch of images of a young couple on their home page that have a hideous blinding sun flare blocking large portions of the couples heads. Can't figure why those were accepted. Maybe it serves some artistic purpose I am missing?

sharpshot · « **Reply #46 on:** March 28, 2009, 18:54 »

Quote from: Milinz on March 28, 2009, 18:11

..It seems they like your images or resolution of your camera... More than 12Mpix?

I don't think MP's matter there. I never had problems with rejections and lots of my photos were 6mp or less.

Milinz · « **Reply #47 on:** March 29, 2009, 04:32 »

@lisafx and @sharpshot:

You guys obviously have higher stress barrier than me ;-)

If there is incosistency in approval of images or all images are rejected from batch (I usually have just few from same subject in same batch), then I really don't know what to think except someone went crazy. First thing I do is to again check all my images on 100% and if reasons for their rejections are there then I try to fix in rare cases. But, on Crestock I had just bunch of stupid reasons for rejections on images accepted on majority of sites and I gave up with them due to time I have clever way to spend... But, when they reject all batch of rasterized vector images then I really don't wish to work with such agency which was the last case made my decision final about them.
Nevertheless, I have reason to beleive that someone with power to reject hated me there...

I really know several persons who are reviewers and they work for one agency some period then work for other agency and some time after they are somewhere else... Also few of them don't like me at all because I gave them some sincere critics about their photography.

kgtoh · « **Reply #48 on:** March 29, 2009, 04:35 »

I haven't been paid either.

So far, I am giving them the benefit of the doubt, that there is a genuine problem.

What is certain is that if there were a problem with them receiving money (ie, their own cash flow), they would make it a top priority and fix it right away.

sharpshot · « **Reply #49 on:** March 29, 2009, 04:43 »

Milinz, they just have a higher rejection rate there. It is the same for everyone, I have seen lots of different people complain about excessive rejections there. I was one of the lucky ones that didn't get many but I am not continuing to upload to a site that pays 20% to 40% lower subs commissions than the other sites I am with.

I don't know why anyone is uploading there when they are undercutting the other sites and giving them a good reason to keep subs commissions low. The difference might look like a few cents but I am sure this site is going to cost us all a lot of money, if others see we will tolerate such small commissions.

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