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It happened a lot with snap village.  I stopped uploading to crestock as I feel if we put up with 25 cents subs commissions, other sites will stop paying us more.

I noticed that it happened to a couple of files of mine that got accepted. They decreased the size of some of my panorama images as well as normal size photos.

Crestock has always downsized images, even when they started out. That's nothing new.

They recently reduced my 12 MP images down to small - I got them approved everywhere else - go figure. They even did that once with one of my 3D renders 

But if you look at it from this side: Wouldn't you rather have your file online in a small size than not at all...?

You can't argue that their subscription is lousy because all subscriptions are lousy - go to McDonalds with a sale from Shutterstock and a sale from Crestock - you won't be able to by anything with either commission. Of course the difference is the volume of sales.

Crestock always emphasized their high quality standards. While one can argue what kind of images did make it through their review queue it has to be mentioned that there is less crap on Crestock than at most other agencies (including the big ones).

That sets them apart from their competition. True though that not a lot of buyers care about that fact.

I got quite a few big credit sales lately with them so it's not all just bad. And in the end it's money too. These days you can't be picky whether you find 25 cents on the floor or if Crestock keeps earning you those amounts over months. Eventually you'll get a payout, and hey, it' gonna be 50 bucks - that'll buy you a small dinner or a night out at the movies.

click_click do you upload to other subscription sites?

By my calculations they all will need to down prices to Crestock level of breaking all low limits or they will stay out of business...

So, feel free to upload and get rejections on Crestock while other sites sales are down due to short midnded greedy human nature...

What an author you are... It is unbelieveable to see someone who knows to make good photos is downing his work to Crestock level... Quite sorrow I feel for all authors in just few years...

Remember my words if you continue to upload to such ripper sites!

Just delete your whole ports from crestock guys. You are not paid enough to put up with anything about them.

Delete the images, don't get stressed for nothing. 0.25 cents commission speaks for itself.

This kind of feels like history repeating itself. Scary...

First an foremost, I don't understand why you would go around in a public forum telling people what to do


Sorry, but that is personal...

Obviously you have no problem telling me what to do but not Yuri. Please elaborate why his sum is more important to him than my sum to me, since you believe he won't leave Crestock because of that? The same way he pays his bills, I pay mine. And I'm not talking about "making some money". It also means to make a living for me.

You're absolutely entitled to your opinion but pointing fingers at people claiming "people like you..." (in this case me) are ruining an entire industry, is a little bit far fetched in my  view.

Interestingly you also assume that I haven't been involved on the other end in the imaging industry. I'm well aware how happy ad agencies and magazine editors are and have their fun with the micros but you can't deny the fact that time is moving on and the good ol days of traditional macro are over.

Macro will find its new place together with micros (and nanos if you will...) as well as midstock or whatever else some savvy entrepreneur is coming up with.

The whole bloody industry is in a constant change, so nothing is the same every day anyway. Times are moving too fast.

There are clients for everything. Again, don't tell me what to do when it's the buyers that WANT the choice.
Go blame them.

Sorry Milinz, I'm not your "dude".

I find it quite disrespectful to approach anybody like that - at least where I come from.

I know this can go on forever but it really buggles me that you claim "people like you" (now you officially included Yuri AND me) are ruining the industry by doing business with Crestock. I don't have to explain that too thoroughly to you but besides the fact that some photographers DO NOT upload to Crestock, there are also quite a few WHO DO.

Obviously all those who do "support" this bad, bad agency must be very, very stupid because all those contributors must want the industry to crash according to your theory - since you claimed that Crestock is: (your quote:
That would mean that everybody uploading to Crestock is an idiot (that would include Yuri)... and pretty much self destructive. I'd be surprised to see Yuri making such a huge mistake.


It appears you have not understood the principle of Microstock. It's about volume. Regarding your statement, not one single photographer would be able to generate income if it would work like that.

You can't compare apples with pears. Working 8 hrs for $1 is miles away from selling a $1 image 2000, 3000 or more times. Honestly, and I really want to understand how you could possibly compare it that way? Please explain.

Needless to say that I have to turn your offer down. Crestock is paying me more a day than that 


If you see it that way, simply don't participate in microstock. As mentioned above, it's about volume.

It's a free world. Nobody is forcing you to upload your entire content to the micros. If you have a shoot that calculates down to $50 expenses per shot and more, just upload the dang thing to a traditional macro agency. There you will get your return.


I never said I can't do anything about whatever... I never complained about Crestock in the first place, so you can count me out on that one.
Secondly, if we, I or you have the power, go sell your stuff yourself on your own site and keep the 100%. There are plenty of photographers that can do that - I can't. It will cost you lots of first hand experience, time, nerves and money and a this point I'm better off having a variety of agents.

I can do a lot - if it comes down to Crestock buying out all other Micros because they will lose all the subscribers, then and only then I will put everything I produce to the Trads. But as of now, a little bit here and a little bit there works just dandy for me.

Ultimately I don't think your experiences can be applied to every single photographer on this planet so why tell them what to do? What works for you might not work for someone else.

Oh yeah one more thing, if there is no photographer, there is no agent. If there is no agent, there won't be a photographer (making money).

Shutterstock has the higher volume of sales and they pay me much more than crestock.  It is $130 every 1,000 subs sales.  The real loss could be substantially more if other sites see we are taking 25 cents for subs sales and don't give us a raise.  I would like to see subs commission increase to $0.50, not stay where they are.

You are right Milinz - I must have been delirious starting a discussion with a such far superior human being like you...

Therefore my statistics must be wrong and the increase in royalties over the last six years is just my pure imagination but you will probably already have an explanation for that as well.

You can call it what you will - if you put lip stick on a pig, it's still a pig.

Good day.

Volume on one side is good when talking about lower commission sites... But, it is anticipated that on one site you should have millions of images?

Interesting way to look at business...

How many images are there on FOTOSEARCH and JUI or Photos.com? I get downloads from there every day and they are more in volume than high majority gets on other places. Also, they come from 30 cents and way up to even some EL commissions... 25 cents? Yes I'd start now with that commission on SS due to daily volumes I get there.

But, never on CS due to that they want only best images and they pay you almost nothing for them. Also, they are cuting industry prices for buyers which in the future means all will cut prices for buyers...

What a pitty... Some people can't ever understand how economy works...

I don't have nothing against to have others against me. It is natural after all because I say something they don't agree. I am not the one who licks everyones butt just to get along with and it is more than obvious in my posts.
And yes it is STUPID to kill your own earnings - so it is true and who ever finds him hurt should first think about why someone says that is something stupid to do. Taking stance to defend stupidity was never my ideal and I am against that! So, if we have smart and stupid approach to this subject as you said, well call it that way. And all those who feel hurt with my post freely can be against me - I don't mind...
I have one nice quote about dancing and music... But, anyway it is no use to place that here because deafs can't understand either music either dance.

Anyway it will just take a bit more time to get CS out of business... So, I go out of here to create some new nice images ;-)

BTW Magnum, You are SMART!