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farbled

« Reply #75 on: February 13, 2014, 20:25 »
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FYI payout can be made at 50$, but you forfeit any balance if you close your account before that.


« Reply #76 on: February 13, 2014, 20:51 »
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FYI payout can be made at 50$, but you forfeit any balance if you close your account before that.

That sucks...

I need to hear what they say about opting out and if that includes out of this stinking deal. If not, I'm out of there and they get to keep my $20 they owe me.... I'll not stick around to meet $50.

« Reply #77 on: February 13, 2014, 20:52 »
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I am not with DepositPhotos because there were a number of things I wasn't happy with about how they operate.

However, I do think that if you don't get a better answer than the insultingly idiotic ones so far - it's not a partner it's an API reseller - the only way to get this kind of nonsense to stop is to leave.

I did that with BigStock last year over the lack of opt out for subs (which where at ridiculous royalties).

I stopped uploading to Veer over their handling of partner programs - no opt out and although they don't do such sleezy deals as DepositPhotos, they do have partners who sell at high prices but we only get the same royalty as "regular" sales

I opted out of Distributor sales at Alamy because they give a distributor 40% of the gross, often sold at very high prices, and I get 30%. The only good thing about this is they have an opt out, although it's only once a year.

I all but left iStock over the Getty Google deal when they wouldn't give us an opt out.

If we don't vote with our content, the agencies will keep on with this abusive behavior. They have no sense of responsibility in that they don't even bother to tell us about these things - it's always one of us finding out.

This one isn't my squabble, but I'd suggest setting a date - March 15th has a nice ring to it - and if they don't give an opt out for all off site sales by then (i.e. who cares what you call it) then pull your portfolios if you don't like this sleazy deal

« Reply #78 on: February 13, 2014, 21:14 »
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I don't need a date, I need $5.50 in sales.  There is nothing they can say or promise or fix by March 15 that will entice me to support them.   

« Reply #79 on: February 13, 2014, 21:27 »
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Awhile back after finding out I got paid a paltry $2.84 for a Partner sale EL , which sells for 80 credits BTW, I requested opt out of Partner Sales.
DP sent a confirmation e-mail that I was opted out of all partner sales.
Thank you DP.

Now after reading this thread I find my images are available through Shoitshop. Probably because this isn't a 'partner sales' site but a 're-seller'.
 Well perhaps they have covered their asses through legal-speak in the contract, but for all practical purposes it ends up being another sly and underhanded way of sellling the content  we provide and giving us a crappy deal. Period.

I think DP should come here and explain in clear and unambiguous terms what they intend to do about what is blatantly a deceitful act. If the intention of a contributer to opt out of partner program because the terms are unacceptable - then that should be across the board with ALL parnters - whether you like to call them partners or resellers, who cares, we want opt out because WE DONT WANT TO BE RIPPED OFF!!

farbled

« Reply #80 on: February 13, 2014, 21:33 »
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I don't need a date, I need $5.50 in sales.  There is nothing they can say or promise or fix by March 15 that will entice me to support them.

I hear you. I'm just under 3 bucks shy myself.

I think I will keep the account for now to see what (if anything) gets resolved. But my photos are down for now.
« Last Edit: February 13, 2014, 21:38 by farbled »

« Reply #81 on: February 13, 2014, 23:12 »
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Subscription resale ?? Grossly unfair to receive effectively low single figure commission. Deposit photos just joined the list of my most hated agencies.

With shady working like this you could subscription sell your contributors work to another website owned by you, sell them for $5 each and make 94%.

« Reply #82 on: February 14, 2014, 00:48 »
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DP, for that kind of business management we have only one word in Finland, it's PERKELE:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypQuREhWe8o

What else I can say..

trust = zero
mood = angry like hell

MxR

« Reply #83 on: February 14, 2014, 04:09 »
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I kicked and cried. I have regretted and I have made the relevant jokes

must act now: I asked to close my account.


stockphoto-images.com

« Reply #84 on: February 14, 2014, 04:52 »
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My images are up there too.  I've emailed to see what the deal is.

I thought your files weren't available at DP for subscription sales.

I thought so too. Looks like that the subscription deal DP makes with its resellers/API/partner agencies does not apply to Sean's wish to exclude his port from DP's own  subscription program.  :-X

« Reply #85 on: February 14, 2014, 05:11 »
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According to a previous post Shotshop is a reseller and NOT a partner (whatever the fk that means).  So even if you opt out of PP, BFD. You will still get hosed unless you simply cut your losses and close your DP account.  At least that's how I read this.

That's how I read the previous posts as well.

But: I aked them specifically about this Shotshop deal and how I could opt out of that. And in their reply they stated:

"If for some reason, you would like to opt out of our partnership programs, just let us know and we will comply with your request. However, please keep in mind, in that case you will be excluded from all our partnership programs and your images will be sold solely on depositphotos.com"

So maybe they changed their mind about not being able to opt out from the re-seller API. At least the last sentence is clear, if they mean what they say.
I asked them to opt-out my portfolio and now am waiting for a response / their action.

stocked

« Reply #86 on: February 14, 2014, 05:40 »
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I don't think so I asked to close my account and got the same mail! I'm not sure if they even read the specific questions.

According to a previous post Shotshop is a reseller and NOT a partner (whatever the fk that means).  So even if you opt out of PP, BFD. You will still get hosed unless you simply cut your losses and close your DP account.  At least that's how I read this.

That's how I read the previous posts as well.

But: I aked them specifically about this Shotshop deal and how I could opt out of that. And in their reply they stated:

"If for some reason, you would like to opt out of our partnership programs, just let us know and we will comply with your request. However, please keep in mind, in that case you will be excluded from all our partnership programs and your images will be sold solely on depositphotos.com"

So maybe they changed their mind about not being able to opt out from the re-seller API. At least the last sentence is clear, if they mean what they say.
I asked them to opt-out my portfolio and now am waiting for a response / their action.
« Last Edit: February 14, 2014, 05:44 by stocked »

« Reply #87 on: February 14, 2014, 05:55 »
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I don't think so I asked to close my account and got the same mail! I'm not sure if they even read the specific questions.

According to a previous post Shotshop is a reseller and NOT a partner (whatever the fk that means).  So even if you opt out of PP, BFD. You will still get hosed unless you simply cut your losses and close your DP account.  At least that's how I read this.

That's how I read the previous posts as well.

But: I aked them specifically about this Shotshop deal and how I could opt out of that. And in their reply they stated:

"If for some reason, you would like to opt out of our partnership programs, just let us know and we will comply with your request. However, please keep in mind, in that case you will be excluded from all our partnership programs and your images will be sold solely on depositphotos.com"

So maybe they changed their mind about not being able to opt out from the re-seller API. At least the last sentence is clear, if they mean what they say.
I asked them to opt-out my portfolio and now am waiting for a response / their action.

Agree, it's a canned response and they probably did not read anything in detail. But their last sentence is pretty clear to me:

your images will be sold solely on depositphotos.com

That's what I wanted and what I asked for in my reply. And now let's see if that was a lie or if they do remove my images from their API.

If not, I'll leave. Doesn't hurt much.

stocked

« Reply #88 on: February 14, 2014, 06:19 »
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I processed my payout and asked to close my account. They processed my payout quick but didn't close my account so far, therefore I have 4.40 $ in new earnings if anyone is about 2$ away from a payout let me know I can spend the 4.40$ at your pictures.
 I slept over it and must say trust is finally lost even if they change this they will come up with some new bad deal in the future like they did in the past (sms), I will definitely close my account it's an easy decision for me as Deposit is not a good earner for me.

« Reply #89 on: February 14, 2014, 07:00 »
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I think DP should come here and explain in clear and unambiguous terms what they intend to do about what is blatantly a deceitful act. If the intention of a contributer to opt out of partner program because the terms are unacceptable - then that should be across the board with ALL parnters - whether you like to call them partners or resellers, who cares, we want opt out because WE DONT WANT TO BE RIPPED OFF!!
You wish! ;)
Meanwhile I got replay for my email:
"Yes, you get $0,30 even though our API re-seller sells a file for  24.90. Our API re-sellers have the right to set their own prices.
If you want to opt out of all our partner programs, please confirm and your files will be sold only on depositphotos.com"


Short and precise...  ::)
Nauseating reality.

« Reply #90 on: February 14, 2014, 07:13 »
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At this moment we've asked to remove our portfolio from any sort of partnership, distributor or API they have.

We'll reevaluate our participation in DP but considering the amount they earn us I'm very confident they'll be gone as soon as we've earned the last 10usd to ask for payout.

Some things are simply inadmissible, immoral and unethical. And if we must tolerate some things from the larger agencies since we are full-time stock photographers, DP isn't such a loss if we drop them..

« Reply #91 on: February 14, 2014, 07:30 »
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I also requested removal of my images and videos from Shotshop and all partner sites.  Allowing subscription buyers to resell images is unacceptable.  I'm considering deactivating all my images.  Hopefully DepostitPhotos management will correct their policies in a timely matter.     

« Reply #92 on: February 14, 2014, 07:40 »
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I have written to DP as well seeking clarifications and will act according to how this pans out from the agency side.  It appears completely unacceptable the way it stands and undermines faith in the company unless they act fairly and fast to address/ resolve the issue.

« Reply #93 on: February 14, 2014, 07:59 »
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At this moment we've asked to remove our portfolio from any sort of partnership, distributor or API they have.

We'll reevaluate our participation in DP but considering the amount they earn us I'm very confident they'll be gone as soon as we've earned the last 10usd to ask for payout.

Some things are simply inadmissible, immoral and unethical. And if we must tolerate some things from the larger agencies since we are full-time stock photographers, DP isn't such a loss if we drop them..

If you don't mine me asking, how many images do you have on DP?

Also, has anyone gotten a "custom" response as opposed to a cut and paste?
« Last Edit: February 14, 2014, 08:02 by Mantis »

« Reply #94 on: February 14, 2014, 08:15 »
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My images are up there too.  I've emailed to see what the deal is.

I thought your files weren't available at DP for subscription sales.

I thought so too. Looks like that the subscription deal DP makes with its resellers/API/partner agencies does not apply to Sean's wish to exclude his port from DP's own  subscription program.  :-X

Not even that - I was supposed to be opted out of any off-site partner or distribution sales completely.  I have an email that my content would only be sold on DP.

« Reply #95 on: February 14, 2014, 09:04 »
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If you don't mine me asking, how many images do you have on DP?


It's over 2500. Don't know the exact number without looking.

« Reply #96 on: February 14, 2014, 09:52 »
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If you don't mine me asking, how many images do you have on DP?


It's over 2500. Don't know the exact number without looking.

Just curious on what impact you'd make as you have a nice collection going.

« Reply #97 on: February 14, 2014, 10:57 »
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Time to Twitter, Facebook and whereelse?

stocked

« Reply #98 on: February 14, 2014, 11:23 »
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I processed my payout and asked to close my account. They processed my payout quick but didn't close my account so far, therefore I have 4.40 $ in new earnings if anyone is about 2$ away from a payout let me know I can spend the 4.40$ at your pictures. It seems not possible to convert earnings into credits I'm sorry  :(
 I slept over it and must say trust is finally lost even if they change this they will come up with some new bad deal in the future like they did in the past (sms), I will definitely close my account it's an easy decision for me as Deposit is not a good earner for me.

MxR

« Reply #99 on: February 14, 2014, 11:24 »
+2
A good month in Deposit  is a bad day in Shutter.

DP need learn a lesson.



 

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