Author Topic: Annoying (Read 15914 times)

Elenathewise · « **on:** March 03, 2011, 12:43 »

I find it extremely annoying that old images that didn't sell on Dreamstime are marked by default as "donate free" if you don't get to them in time. I would much prefer "disable" as default. The fact that these images didn't sell on DT doesn't mean they are not (sometimes actively) selling on other sites. I hope DT realizes they are not the fastest-selling site out there.
But fine, if they don't want to keep images for longer than certain time, it's their choice. But don't offer my work for free! I don't work for free!
And yes I know to avoid that I need to check my messages and delete old images as they come up.... but here is another newsflash - my life doesn't revolve around DT... maybe it's hard for them to imagine, but it's true.
Frustrating at the least.

BaldricksTrousers · « **Reply #1 on:** March 03, 2011, 12:48 »

Somewhere or other there is a way of switching the default to delete, as that is what I have done. But I can't remember how you do it.

djpadavona · « **Reply #2 on:** March 03, 2011, 12:49 »

Well said. I think they are making a critical error with contributor relations by doing this.

red · « **Reply #3 on:** March 03, 2011, 13:27 »

Here's the thread on the how-to - http://www.dreamstime.com/thread_19796

Donated without consent - how do I disable/delete free images

Basically, you get a notification by email and in your comments 30 days prior. Once you click the box to delete rather than move to the free section it becomes the default for any future images.

trek · « **Reply #4 on:** March 03, 2011, 13:40 »

How long does it take before unsold files fall into the trap? I'm a compulsive editor with an itchy delete finger. I wanna mark my calendar!

Elenathewise · « **Reply #5 on:** March 03, 2011, 14:06 »

Quote from: cuppacoffee on March 03, 2011, 13:27

Here's the thread on the how-to - http://www.dreamstime.com/thread_19796

Donated without consent - how do I disable/delete free images

Basically, you get a notification by email and in your comments 30 days prior. Once you click the box to delete rather than move to the free section it becomes the default for any future images.

Ummm, it doesn't for me. I keep clicking "delete" and the default is still "donate".

Elenathewise · « **Reply #6 on:** March 03, 2011, 14:35 »

Quote from: trek on March 03, 2011, 13:40

How long does it take before unsold files fall into the trap? I'm a compulsive editor with an itchy delete finger. I wanna mark my calendar!

It used to be 4 years, now it's 3. Soon they'll start giving away your images for free after a couple of months....

MikLav · « **Reply #7 on:** March 03, 2011, 14:52 »

Quote from: Elenathewise on March 03, 2011, 14:06

Quote from: cuppacoffee on March 03, 2011, 13:27
Here's the thread on the how-to - http://www.dreamstime.com/thread_19796

Donated without consent - how do I disable/delete free images

Basically, you get a notification by email and in your comments 30 days prior. Once you click the box to delete rather than move to the free section it becomes the default for any future images.

Ummm, it doesn't for me. I keep clicking "delete" and the default is still "donate".

Seems to work for me - I went to http://www.dreamstime.com/oldfiles.php, clicked "click here" and got to http://www.dreamstime.com/oldfiles.php?setdefault=D

And yes was a bit annoying for me too and I am thankful that link was provided

lisafx · « **Reply #8 on:** March 03, 2011, 15:05 »

I've hit "disable" many times but my default is still "donate".

FWIW, here's what Achilles said in the above linked thread: "The default cannot be changed, at least not for now."

Admittedly, that thread is over a year old, but if something has officially changed I don't see where.

BaldricksTrousers · « **Reply #9 on:** March 03, 2011, 15:43 »

In the section where the images are waiting to be dealt with the last line of text says:
Currently your default action is set to disable the images. Click here to set your default action to donating the images to the free section.
I "clicked (t)here" and was able to change the default from donate to disable.
Doesn't that work for you?

MikLav · « **Reply #10 on:** March 03, 2011, 15:50 »

Quote from: lisafx on March 03, 2011, 15:05

FWIW, here's what Achilles said in the above linked thread: "The default cannot be changed, at least not for now."

he says a few posts down that it's possibe and gives the link to http://www.dreamstime.com/oldfiles.php

I tried it and it worked. And the page now says "Click here to set your default action to donating the images to the free section" instead of "click here to set default to disable"

What do you see if you simply go to address http://www.dreamstime.com/oldfiles.php?setdefault=D ?

lisafx · « **Reply #11 on:** March 03, 2011, 16:15 »

Thanks for clearing that up Balderick and Miklav

I don't currently have any pending old files, having just dealt with them a couple of days ago, so I can't test out your method. I will have to remember to do it next time I get a notice.

Elenathewise · « **Reply #12 on:** March 03, 2011, 16:53 »

Hey Lisa, you can still do that - I just did (I don't have any old files pending either). You go to http://www.dreamstime.com/oldfiles.php and the last sentence you see before "No images found" contains a link to click on to change the default. Hope that works.

Thanks everyone - this is very helpful!

stockastic · « **Reply #13 on:** March 03, 2011, 17:03 »

Quote from: Elenathewise on March 03, 2011, 16:53

Hey Lisa, you can still do that - I just did (I don't have any old files pending either). You go to http://www.dreamstime.com/oldfiles.php and the last sentence you see before "No images found" contains a link to click on to change the default. Hope that works.

Thanks everyone - this is very helpful!

I click on that link ("Click here to set your default action") and absolutely nothing happens.

lisafx · « **Reply #14 on:** March 03, 2011, 17:25 »

Quote from: Elenathewise on March 03, 2011, 16:53

Hey Lisa, you can still do that - I just did (I don't have any old files pending either). You go to http://www.dreamstime.com/oldfiles.php and the last sentence you see before "No images found" contains a link to click on to change the default. Hope that works.

Thanks everyone - this is very helpful!

Worked for me!

Thanks Elena! Very useful thread and advice

cathyslife · « **Reply #15 on:** March 03, 2011, 18:41 »

Quote from: stockastic on March 03, 2011, 17:03

Quote from: Elenathewise on March 03, 2011, 16:53
Hey Lisa, you can still do that - I just did (I don't have any old files pending either). You go to http://www.dreamstime.com/oldfiles.php and the last sentence you see before "No images found" contains a link to click on to change the default. Hope that works.

Thanks everyone - this is very helpful!

I click on that link ("Click here to set your default action") and absolutely nothing happens.

The link doesn't go anywhere, the sentence changes. The first part says what your default is set to. It was confusing for me because I expect a link to go somewhere and it didn't.

visceralimage · « **Reply #16 on:** March 03, 2011, 20:31 »

Thanks for the heads-up, did not know about this policy.

Anita Potter · « **Reply #17 on:** March 04, 2011, 00:28 »

Quote from: visceralimage on March 03, 2011, 20:31

Thanks for the heads-up, did not know about this policy.

+1 I didn't know that either thought Fotolia was the only one with that policy. I went ahead and set mine to disable eventhough it'll be 2 years with this agency come this May.

Megastock · « **Reply #18 on:** March 04, 2011, 01:38 »

Quote from: Elenathewise on March 03, 2011, 14:35

Quote from: trek on March 03, 2011, 13:40
How long does it take before unsold files fall into the trap? I'm a compulsive editor with an itchy delete finger. I wanna mark my calendar!
It used to be 4 years, now it's 3. Soon they'll start giving away your images for free after a couple of months....

Is it 3 years? Everything I see in the thread and the oldfiles page say 4+... I still think it should default to delete rather than donate as well, but at least they let you change it ahead of time now...

madelaide · « **Reply #19 on:** March 04, 2011, 05:06 »

Mine are set to disable by default, but you don'e have to worry because of the 30-day alert mentioned here.

ThomasAmby · « **Reply #20 on:** March 04, 2011, 05:07 »

I never heard of this and haven't been around long enough to have images donated/disabled, but on oldfiles.php it seems my default is disable, and not donate

traveler1116 · « **Reply #21 on:** March 04, 2011, 07:57 »

Quote from: Elenathewise on March 03, 2011, 14:35

Quote from: trek on March 03, 2011, 13:40
How long does it take before unsold files fall into the trap? I'm a compulsive editor with an itchy delete finger. I wanna mark my calendar!

It used to be 4 years, now it's 3. Soon they'll start giving away your images for free after a couple of months....

Have you seen the free image section: http://www.dreamstime.com/free-images_pg1. It's got 8044 pages of 20 images which comes to 160,880 images.

cathyslife · « **Reply #22 on:** March 04, 2011, 08:32 »

Quote from: traveler1116 on March 04, 2011, 07:57

Quote from: Elenathewise on March 03, 2011, 14:35
Quote from: trek on March 03, 2011, 13:40
How long does it take before unsold files fall into the trap? I'm a compulsive editor with an itchy delete finger. I wanna mark my calendar!

It used to be 4 years, now it's 3. Soon they'll start giving away your images for free after a couple of months....

Have you seen the free image section: http://www.dreamstime.com/free-images_pg1. It's got 8044 pages of 20 images which comes to 160,880 images.

At that rate, nothing will sell anymore, everything will be moved to the free section. I would think DT would put a limit on this. Aren't they shooting themselves in the foot as well as us in the back?

BaldricksTrousers · « **Reply #23 on:** March 04, 2011, 10:07 »

Quote from: cclapper on March 04, 2011, 08:32

At that rate, nothing will sell anymore, everything will be moved to the free section. I would think Dreamstime would put a limit on this. Aren't they shooting themselves in the foot as well as us in the back?

It is certainly something to be concerned about. Checking out famous destinations I am finding some very, very good shots that have obviously simply been buried by similars and are now downloading by the score, while the files for sale are picking up one or two sales if they are lucky ... and some of the unlucky ones will presumably end up joining the free section and then collecting downloads.

Try a search for Antelope Canyon and see what you can get for free.

The saturation of collections and files getting lost in the search means that there is no guarantee that outstanding work will every get sold.

I wonder how many people in the free section know their work is there and how many have been trapped by the "donate" default.

Elenathewise · « **Reply #24 on:** March 04, 2011, 11:36 »

Quote from: traveler1116 on March 04, 2011, 07:57

Quote from: Elenathewise on March 03, 2011, 14:35
Quote from: trek on March 03, 2011, 13:40
How long does it take before unsold files fall into the trap? I'm a compulsive editor with an itchy delete finger. I wanna mark my calendar!

It used to be 4 years, now it's 3. Soon they'll start giving away your images for free after a couple of months....

Have you seen the free image section: http://www.dreamstime.com/free-images_pg1. It's got 8044 pages of 20 images which comes to 160,880 images.

Yikes!!! This is scary and very disturbing. Dreamstime is turning into free images site. I too wonder how many people (like me) didn't realize their images were offered for free. I deleted mine yesterday but not before some of them had over 100 free downloads (!). This is unacceptable and shouldn't be allowed - like "black billing".

Elenathewise · « **Reply #25 on:** March 04, 2011, 11:41 »

Quote from: Megastock on March 04, 2011, 01:38

Quote from: Elenathewise on March 03, 2011, 14:35
Quote from: trek on March 03, 2011, 13:40
How long does it take before unsold files fall into the trap? I'm a compulsive editor with an itchy delete finger. I wanna mark my calendar!

It used to be 4 years, now it's 3. Soon they'll start giving away your images for free after a couple of months....

Is it 3 years? Everything I see in the thread and the oldfiles page say 4+... I still think it should default to delete rather than donate as well, but at least they let you change it ahead of time now...

When I contacted Dreamstime about this issue here is what I got in reply:

"All images that have been online for more than 3 years and have no downloads automatically enter our database clean-up process. Please see link for more details on this:
http://www.dreamstime.com/thread_19023
You receive a notification for all such files and you are asked to take one of the three indicated actions: donate to the free section, re-keyword via the keymasters program or simply disable the file. The donate option is set as default so if you do not select another option by a certain date, the images will be donated.
We can disable these images if you wish but we recommend all members to keep free files online as they increase the exposure of your portfolio. Once disabled, the free images cannot be enabled again or uploaded for the commercial section."

cathyslife · « **Reply #26 on:** March 04, 2011, 11:57 »

As long as we keep getting a notification, I'm ok with it. I certainly hope they don't start moving images to the free section without a notification and chance to disable. That would be a bad move. But I don't get it at all because again, if images are given away for free, no one makes money.

Is there a way to search through those 8000+ pages for my images by using my name? For instance, my name in double quotes, etc.? I have always gotten a notification (as far as I know), so I wouldn't expect there to be any of mine, but stranger things have happened.

WarrenPrice · « **Reply #27 on:** March 04, 2011, 12:10 »

Quote from: cclapper on March 04, 2011, 11:57

As long as we keep getting a notification, I'm ok with it. I certainly hope they don't start moving images to the free section without a notification and chance to disable. That would be a bad move. But I don't get it at all because again, if images are given away for free, no one makes money.

Is there a way to search through those 8000+ pages for my images by using my name? For instance, my name in double quotes, etc.? I have always gotten a notification (as far as I know), so I wouldn't expect there to be any of mine, but stranger things have happened.

There was a very heated discussion in Dreamstime forum concerning this very subject. I and several others bordered on being banned for (abusive comments). My big complaint was the default setting ... email or no ... the default should be DISABLE. Several contributors accused Dreamstime of Stealing their images. Others were simply concerned about copyright issues.

As with most such discussions on Dreamstime, the resolution was "Out of sight, out of mind."

Glad to see it revived. That default should be changed. If it is not Stealing, it comes close.

lisafx · « **Reply #28 on:** March 04, 2011, 18:20 »

Quote from: cclapper on March 04, 2011, 11:57

Is there a way to search through those 8000+ pages for my images by using my name? For instance, my name in double quotes, etc.? I have always gotten a notification (as far as I know), so I wouldn't expect there to be any of mine, but stranger things have happened.

Cathy, if you want to see if you have any free images at Dreamstime, go to your management area and click on "online files". Sort by downloads. If you have any freebies they will show up first as the most downloaded. Then you can disable them, if you want, by clicking on the "edit" button.

cathyslife · « **Reply #29 on:** March 04, 2011, 19:29 »

Quote from: lisafx on March 04, 2011, 18:20

Quote from: cclapper on March 04, 2011, 11:57

Is there a way to search through those 8000+ pages for my images by using my name? For instance, my name in double quotes, etc.? I have always gotten a notification (as far as I know), so I wouldn't expect there to be any of mine, but stranger things have happened.

Cathy, if you want to see if you have any free images at Dreamstime, go to your management area and click on "online files". Sort by downloads. If you have any freebies they will show up first as the most downloaded. Then you can disable them, if you want, by clicking on the "edit" button.

Thanks Lisa, I'm going to go try that.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #30 on:** March 04, 2011, 21:12 »

the default is on DISABLE!

I am in DT almost 2 years and never changed anything regarding this matter

traveler1116 · « **Reply #31 on:** March 05, 2011, 10:09 »

Quote from: luissantos84 on March 04, 2011, 21:12

the default is on DISABLE!

I am in Dreamstime almost 2 years and never changed anything regarding this matter

Look above DT said the default is donate.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #32 on:** March 05, 2011, 11:24 »

Quote from: traveler1116 on March 05, 2011, 10:09

Quote from: luissantos84 on March 04, 2011, 21:12
the default is on DISABLE!

I am in Dreamstime almost 2 years and never changed anything regarding this matter
Look above Dreamstime said the default is donate.

mine isn´t and I have never touched it

Elenathewise · « **Reply #33 on:** March 05, 2011, 19:05 »

Quote from: luissantos84 on March 05, 2011, 11:24

Quote from: traveler1116 on March 05, 2011, 10:09
Quote from: luissantos84 on March 04, 2011, 21:12
the default is on DISABLE!

I am in Dreamstime almost 2 years and never changed anything regarding this matter
Look above Dreamstime said the default is donate.

mine isn´t and I have never touched it

Then they must have changed the default for some (more recent) contributors..?. Although the email I got from them says default is "donate' - confusing, eh? The default was definitely "donate" for me - hope that changing the option described in this thread works.

trek · « **Reply #34 on:** March 05, 2011, 20:50 »

The link worked for me. Thanks for posting it.

Lcjtripod · « **Reply #35 on:** March 07, 2011, 21:48 »

Quote from: stockastic on March 03, 2011, 17:03

Quote from: Elenathewise on March 03, 2011, 16:53
Hey Lisa, you can still do that - I just did (I don't have any old files pending either). You go to http://www.dreamstime.com/oldfiles.php and the last sentence you see before "No images found" contains a link to click on to change the default. Hope that works.

Thanks everyone - this is very helpful!

I click on that link ("Click here to set your default action") and absolutely nothing happens.

Worked for me and thanks!!

digitalexpressionimages · « **Reply #36 on:** March 28, 2011, 13:24 »

I disabled an image quite a while ago (we're talking years here). I read somewhere that disabled files get deleted after a certain amount of time but the image in question was in the disabled section for over 3 years. I contacted support and found out that if I wanted the image deleted they had to do it for me or it would stay in the disabled bin indefinitely. I didn't really see the point of that so I chose to donate it (maybe a mistake but I thought maybe my portfolio could use some more exposure which turns out never happened anyway). In the future I think i will definitely disable but I get very annoyed seeing those * images in the disabled bin knowing they will stay there forever.

pancaketom · « **Reply #37 on:** March 28, 2011, 13:49 »

Maybe DT should go through the free bin and delete anything they think is similar to images on sale. I bet that would clear out 99% of them.

In any case I am set to disable, if someone wants those images they can buy them elsewhere.

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