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« on: February 28, 2007, 14:43 »
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As the subject states, have anyone received a subscription sale (@ 0.25) yet?

I'm interested to see how many of them there are at this point.


« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2007, 14:46 »
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not yet.

« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2007, 16:02 »
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Gladly, not yet.

Regards,
Adelaide

« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2007, 16:10 »
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No, and I don't worry about it. Only 1.00 sales so far today  :)

« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2007, 21:28 »
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When did they have this? I did not know they even have subscription sales...

« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2007, 00:55 »
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None for me, happily,   :)    and I sold 7 yesterday (28 Feb)

red_moon_rise

« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2007, 14:42 »
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Ok. This is what I found today in my earning overview:
03/01/2007 10:47 Member download Level 1 subscription $0.50 maximum (RF) 

It seems like maximum res pictures still get you 0.50 from subscription not the 0.25 we all feared.

nruboc

« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2007, 16:04 »
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Ok. This is what I found today in my earning overview:
03/01/2007 10:47 Member download Level 1 subscription $0.50 maximum (RF) 

It seems like maximum res pictures still get you 0.50 from subscription not the 0.25 we all feared.


Nope, the 0.25 is in effect, I just got one

nruboc

« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2007, 16:05 »
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...and I might add it was for the 'Maximum' size

« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2007, 16:27 »
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Just got a download for " Large: credit $1.50,  :D

« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2007, 17:57 »
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yet to get any subscription download .. but i did manage to sell 2 of the photo with the maximum payout of $2 each ..

eendicott

« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2007, 21:36 »
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I had a subscription download for an "additional format" today.  My take, as an exclusive, was 60 cents.

I'm not feeling too good about selling a RAW file for 60 cents.

« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2007, 23:42 »
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I also got one today, and of course....the biggest size DT offers. Why of course, who can refuse a free lunch?

"I'm not feeling too good about selling a RAW file for 60 cents."
ooooooooo, that's gotta hurt! RAW!? Your selling your RAW!? Oh dear Lord....Please save this man from the Devil
« Last Edit: March 01, 2007, 23:44 by rjmiz »

eendicott

« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2007, 01:20 »
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The misunderstanding I had was what exactly a subscription sale is.  I didn't understand that a subscription sale would be the same thing as subscription credits.

This means that rather than getting $25.00 (50 credits x 50 cents) for an extended license, a buyer gets an extended license for $10.00 (50 credits x 20 cents).

I will be pulling my RAW files before the weekend and I am going to have to think long and hard about offering extended licenses.

« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2007, 03:11 »
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The misunderstanding I had was what exactly a subscription sale is.  I didn't understand that a subscription sale would be the same thing as subscription credits.

This means that rather than getting $25.00 (50 credits x 50 cents) for an extended license, a buyer gets an extended license for $10.00 (50 credits x 20 cents).

Huh?  I don't understand what you are saying.

eendicott

« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2007, 07:23 »
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If a person buys a subscription, the contributor (seller) gets 20 cents per credit.  If they don't buy a subscription, the contributor (seller) gets 50 cents per credit.

Additional Formats are 4 credits - that's a 60 cent commission for subscription sales of additional formats. (based on my experience).

Extended licenses are 50 credits - that's a $10 commission for subscription sales of extended licenses.

Under the normal scheme (non subscription sale), an additional format would yield a $2 commission and an extended license would yield a $25 commission.

« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2007, 08:32 »
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If a person buys a subscription, the contributor (seller) gets 20 cents per credit.  If they don't buy a subscription, the contributor (seller) gets 50 cents per credit.

Additional Formats are 4 credits - that's a 60 cent commission for subscription sales of additional formats. (based on my experience).

Extended licenses are 50 credits - that's a $10 commission for subscription sales of extended licenses.

Under the normal scheme (non subscription sale), an additional format would yield a $2 commission and an extended license would yield a $25 commission.

Where are you getting this from?

That is not my understanding of the process in place.

Subscriptions are either 0.25 for non-exclusive or 0.30 for exclusive.

You are exclusive.  So you should have gotten a 0.30 sale, but your sale was for a RAW file.

My guess is that with RAW type files the royalty is double, so it would be either 0.50 for non-exclusive or 0.60 for exclusive.

Extended Licenses should always have a $50 royalty.  They have nothing to do with subscription sales.

eendicott

« Reply #17 on: March 02, 2007, 08:46 »
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That is not the case.  As an exclusive, usually a RAW file sale would yield $2.40 (4 credits x 50 cents plus the exclusive bonus).  I just looked closer and I have a RAW sale on a level 1 image that occurred on December 13 for that amount.  My exclusive sale from yesterday yielded 60 cents TOTAL.  If the commission is 25 cents for subscription sales, then they must have dropped the price on additional formats to 2 credits plus the exclusive bonus.

After going through my earnings, I also didn't realize that previously, my subscription revenue was 60 cents (50 cents subscription plus the bonus).

It appears they are paying out based on credits and what those credits are worth and not dollars.

This was never explained in the announcements thread for anything other than the standard RF license.

« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2007, 08:19 »
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 just as i already said before. i'm not yet sure, but it's more likely that i am going to erase my portfolio on dt, somewhere in Jun- July.

« Reply #19 on: March 03, 2007, 09:40 »
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Here are some sales with the dates:

02/27/2007 (maximum, RF, $1.00)
02/27/2007 (maximum, RF, $0.50)
03/02/2007 (large, RF, $0.50)
03/02/2007 (small, RF, $0.50)
03/03/2007 (large, RF, $0.25)

Does this make sense?  Can someone explain?

eendicott

« Reply #20 on: March 03, 2007, 11:30 »
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It doesn't make sense to me.  Yesterday I had a download with 2005 credits as well.  After two straight months of declining sales and a new pricing program that doesn't work for my portfolio, I've already decided it isn't worth it for me anymore.  This isn't the same Dreamstime I decided to go exclusive with last August - this is Dreamstime trying to be Shutterstock.

I've disabled all of my RAW files and opted out of all the extended licenses.    I'm afraid this is the beginning of my exit from Microstock altogether.

For all the time and effort I put into the Micros, I'm getting a much better return elsewhere.

Greg Boiarsky

« Reply #21 on: March 03, 2007, 11:51 »
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Where is "elsewhere"?  Are you having luck with your Colorado photos?

For all the time and effort I put into the Micros, I'm getting a much better return elsewhere.

eendicott

« Reply #22 on: March 03, 2007, 12:08 »
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Not as much volume, but definitely as much revenue so far.  I've been turning more to the traditional agencies.  Since I can't sell RF until my exclusivity is over (the end of March) I've been selling RM stuff.

I've also had a couple of private assignment type things here and there that pay much better.  I had a couple last fall and I have another coming up in May.  I'm currently working on a proposal to a brother of a friend that needs someone to shoot this summer some golf shots up at a couple of the ski resorts for an ad campaign.

I currently have over 750 RM oriented images pending at Alamy.  I'm going to prepare another submission of about 400 RF and RM this week - by the time Alamy gets to reviewing them, and I get to keywording them, it will be the end of March and my exclusivity will be over at DT.

grp_photo

« Reply #23 on: March 03, 2007, 13:32 »
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My last upload to Dreamstime was last August. So i was lucky just  perfect timing i could delete the more precious files which i don't wanna dump in a subscription system in particular in full size  ;D.
« Last Edit: March 03, 2007, 13:59 by grp_photo »

« Reply #24 on: March 03, 2007, 20:41 »
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This isn't the same Dreamstime I decided to go exclusive with last August - this is Dreamstime trying to be Shutterstock.

I've disabled all of my RAW files and opted out of all the extended licenses.

You are the second person (that I have noticed) that has turned from a fanatic of DT to disappointed in DT.  Seems to be turning into a pattern.


 

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