New Pricing from Dreamstime

holgs

« Reply #25 on: December 15, 2009, 07:11 »

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I think this is good news for independents. Its a shame they cut commissions before bringing this in, but overall I think its going to result in a fairly significant increase in earnings - the combination of the increased prices with the new image levels should be significant, particularly for contributors who have been there for a while.

The change in levels will more than triple the number of level 3 and above files that I have - so there will be a boost to subscription earnings as well as on demand earnings.

Now... what's SS up to???


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uploaderz

« Reply #26 on: December 15, 2009, 10:13 »

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yeah, hopefully SS responds.

Nice update from DT!


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leaf

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« Reply #27 on: December 15, 2009, 10:15 »

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Quote from: holgs on December 15, 2009, 07:11

Yeah, I really hope that now with DT's price increase, and iStock's as well, that the other sites might take advantage of the situation and increase their prices as well.


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mwp1969

« Reply #28 on: December 15, 2009, 10:29 »

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Quote from: leaf on December 15, 2009, 04:22

This looks good. If Dreamstime finds that everyone switches over to subscription they will be loosing money as well and can put up subscription prices / commissions if they have to. Dreamstime also has a very fair system of increasing the level of an image even with subscription sales.

If you have an image with 10 sales and the buyer buys a medium resolution license - under the old system it would get you a 5 credit sale. Under the new system you will be getting a 10 credit sale. That is a great increase for us!

I still think that Dreamstime's image level system is one of the best. Great images that sell over and over are boosted into the higher earning bracket and continue to sell at the high price, while other images, perhaps less desirable stay cheaper. If the cheap images are better they will be very attractive to buyers and will be quickly boosted up to a higher image level. Since the rank increases are done on a per image basis - not entire portfolio basis, so someone who is new to the site can benefit just as much as someone who has been online for 5 years.

Nicely said Leaf. I also really like the individual image level system and will look forward to higher commissions that will come from the higher pricing across the board.

On another note I already hit BME at DT by the 12th day of this month so I'm having a nice December at DT and overall Grin

-Mark


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Perry

« Reply #29 on: December 18, 2009, 12:25 »

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I just saw this thread for the first time. I seem to have fallen in love with Dreamstime, again.


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Artemis

« Reply #30 on: January 12, 2010, 13:32 »

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Just a quick question:
I just sold a TIFF through subscription on DT...for $0,35 (lvl1 image)
I never knew subcription customers could also download TIFF's for the same price before...
Was it always like that...?


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gostwyck

« Reply #31 on: January 12, 2010, 13:50 »

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Quote from: Artemis on January 12, 2010, 13:32

This was Serban writing on their forum today;

"Tiffs are generated automatically & available to (almost) all images. They weren't announced, left as a nice surprise for you to find. We hope you'll enjoy the royalties they bring Wink


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Artemis

« Reply #32 on: January 12, 2010, 14:44 »

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Ahhh, thanks a lot for that info gostwyck!

Yeah i'm absolutely thrilled and euphoric about earning $0,35 for a TIFF!!
Undecided

Quite the contrary...


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gostwyck

« Reply #33 on: January 12, 2010, 14:56 »

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Quote from: Artemis on January 12, 2010, 14:44

Yeah i'm absolutely thrilled and euphoric about earning $0,35 for a TIFF!!

I'm guessing it wasn't "a nice surprise" then?

Although I don't think that converting a JPEG image into a TIFF is adding any value to it (especially as we don't have to do the conversion) it does highlight once again the absurd notion of these subscription packages and what we get paid for them. It's just edged me another bit closer to exclusivity with IS.


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willie

« Reply #34 on: January 12, 2010, 15:08 »

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Quote from: xposurepro on December 14, 2009, 21:23

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I just flicked back through my last 200 sales and only 25 of them were subscriptions .. so that's only 12%.

yes, you have a point there. i , like you, don't pay much attention to dissecting which is sales or subs.
but looking quickly at my dls and earnings, it more or less equals dollar per dl. which i suppose isn't that bad for 3MP. (i don't submit any larger to micro, giving them only the min requirement, leaving the XXL to Alamy).
being recent in micro, i like the idea too that i will reach Level II sooner with this new rating, which i gather would increase potential earning per dl too.

i really don't expect miracles with micro stock as far as earnings go, since everyone seems to go ape with pushing for subs. but i can't knock DT for trying to show they are at least giving our rants
an ear and trying to appease us. maybe not completely, but as they say, "bad or good; compared to what?"

compared to other micro sites i'd say DT is getting my images more than any other of the Big 5+3, since DT is my top earner. only other one that i am hoping for a new change would be my #2 earner Stockxpert, which i hope will also give us something to be happy about soon.

whatever, i think now that the tide has moved back to DT, Getty cannot ignore this.
and killing StockXpert is certainly not going to bring StockXpert contributors to move to IS, esp when many of us
already have both IS and StockXpert accounts. and killing StockXpert will certainly not sit well with us,
for those who used to have a site that was earning well before all this screwup with Getty of StockXpert.


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cthoman

« Reply #35 on: January 12, 2010, 15:15 »

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Quote from: Artemis on January 12, 2010, 14:44

Ahhh, thanks a lot for that info gostwyck!

Yeah i'm absolutely thrilled and euphoric about earning $0,35 for a TIFF!!
Undecided

Quite the contrary...

I'm not sure what the big deal is? Can't anyone convert a jpeg into a tiff? I'm sure a lot of people do convert your photos to tiffs, so they can use them for print. It's not like they are selling your raw files.


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cthoman

« Reply #36 on: January 12, 2010, 15:19 »

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My RPD has been pretty good this month at Dreamstime. It's hard to tell if it will be an overall increase because January seems to still be slumping from the holidays at all the agencies, but the RPD is definitely a good sign.


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Artemis

« Reply #37 on: January 12, 2010, 15:36 »

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Quote from: cthoman on January 12, 2010, 15:15

Quote from: Artemis on January 12, 2010, 14:44

Ahhh, thanks a lot for that info gostwyck!

Yeah i'm absolutely thrilled and euphoric about earning $0,35 for a TIFF!!
Undecided

Quite the contrary...

No way i'll ever upload my raw's anywhere, they might just become available for subscription download before i know it ;P
True, converted from jpg might not add much value, but look at the credit pricing (lvl 5 here):
XS sells for 9 credits, medium for 14, XL for 16 and TIFF for 26 (11 for lvl 1; 15 for lvl2; 20 for lvl3)! Adding/including that to the subscription plan really angers me and feels like a new all time subscription low.
I have no doubts DT implemented this to make it's contributors happy... but $0,35 for something worth quite a bit more than the largest size...ARGH! (plus, doesnt this make subscription more tempting to buyers? not the way to go imho)
I guess i'm just a party pooper?

Edit:schpelling


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gostwyck

« Reply #38 on: January 12, 2010, 15:45 »

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^^^ I'd very much agree. I've just checked my last 200 sales and out of those 95 were subscriptions __ over 47%. It looks to me that more buyers may be moving over to subscriptions so we may get little or no benefit from the new prices/levels.


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mwp1969

« Reply #39 on: January 12, 2010, 16:31 »

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Based on data I've seen, DT seems to be aggressively marketing their subscription plan as we are seeing more and more subscription sales. Yet while RPDs drop due this, I am seeing revenue increase despite this. That would equate to making it up in volume.

Perhaps they are beginning to chip away at a tiny slice of SS market share of subs ...

-Mark
http://markwpayne.wordpress.com


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willie

« Reply #40 on: January 12, 2010, 19:21 »

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Quote from: gostwyck on January 12, 2010, 15:45

you know, i just realise here that many of you "experienced" contributors and long time micro stock group ppl here do not approve of subs with DT.
so why no one is asking DT for an opt out button like we have with IS, StockXpert?


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madelaide

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« Reply #41 on: January 12, 2010, 20:14 »

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I have asked so many times...


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rene

« Reply #42 on: January 12, 2010, 20:54 »

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Quote from: cthoman on January 12, 2010, 15:15

Quote from: Artemis on January 12, 2010, 14:44

Ahhh, thanks a lot for that info gostwyck!

Yeah i\'m absolutely thrilled and euphoric about earning $0,35 for a TIFF!!
Undecided

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Quite the contrary...

I\'m not sure what the big deal is? Can\'t anyone convert a jpeg into a tiff? I\'m sure a lot of people do convert your photos to tiffs, so they can use them for print. It\'s not like they are selling your raw files.

It\'s only about money. It makes no sense to download more expensive, often upsized, bigger tiff file - without any quality gain. But it can work with some customers that are not paying attention on fine prints (they thinking buying real, good quality tiff file). This is why the information about artificial upsizing was removed - they hope to see people in a hurry fall into the trap.


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