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lisafx


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« Reply #75 on: July 16, 2010, 13:27 »
Eirann, thank you!  You have made my day, my week, and probably my month!  It's reassuring to know that sometimes my snaggle-toothed, bed-headed "real people" can sometimes carry the day Grin

And if people know my background it's probably because I never shut the he11 up!  LOL.

You and I are definitely on the same page RE: Dreamstime.  They are a great agency.  Hopefully the more flexible reviewing policy we are seeing in Yuri's portfolio will eventually apply to the rest of us Smiley


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Artemis


« Reply #76 on: July 16, 2010, 14:02 »
But again, are we sure Yuri 'won' this battle? For all we know he just could have bumped into a lenient reviewer; search results show definitely not all similars are rejected (also from other submitters), some reviewers seem to be a lot more strict on this one than others.


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Pheby



« Reply #77 on: July 16, 2010, 14:12 »
Quote from: Artemis on July 16, 2010, 14:02
But again, are we sure Yuri 'won' this battle? For all we know he just could have bumped into a lenient reviewer; search results show definitely not all similars are rejected (also from other submitters), some reviewers seem to be a lot more strict on this one than others.

I agree. It must depend on the reviewers. Many small fish still have endless series of the same subject. Someone linked a search result with about 50 images of the same pizza here recently (that was nowhere near showing various expressions Grin) . The DT reviewers do seem to actually look into portfolios - I've had quite a few rejects for "too similar" images that were several batches apart from eachother. It does p me off quite a bit, because I am responsible with similars, as cclapper put it, and I never submit more than 3 of one subject, mostly one horizontal, one vertical, and often one tilted (I shoot food).


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Maui


« Reply #78 on: July 17, 2010, 04:25 »
I have said it before: If I a map of Kentucky is rejected just because I also have maps of 20 other US states in my portfolio, it is not only stupid, it is downright moronic, and I don't have any patience for such unprofessional nonsense.


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cclapper


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« Reply #79 on: July 17, 2010, 06:17 »
Quote from: Maui on July 17, 2010, 04:25
I have said it before: If I a map of Kentucky is rejected just because I also have maps of 20 other US states in my portfolio, it is not only stupid, it is downright moronic, and I don't have any patience for such unprofessional nonsense.

I guess it depends on the type of map you are submitting. If they are photos of maps from a Rand McNally or similar type of map book, they ALL should have been rejected because that material is copyrighted. If the map is an out-of-focus part of your photo and some other object is the main focus, then you would be right and it would be moronic.


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Maui


« Reply #80 on: July 17, 2010, 06:31 »
Quote from: cclapper on July 17, 2010, 06:17
I guess it depends on the type of map you are submitting. If they are photos of maps from a Rand McNally or similar type of map book, they ALL should have been rejected because that material is copyrighted. If the map is an out-of-focus part of your photo and some other object is the main focus, then you would be right and it would be moronic.

They are complex illustrations, made by myself. No photos.


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yuliang11


« Reply #81 on: September 05, 2010, 11:23 »
it's amazing with the type of double standard "same photo rejection" applied to us and to people like yuri


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click_click


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« Reply #82 on: September 05, 2010, 11:51 »
I still think it should be fair.

DT has its technical requirements that need to be met (not including the similar "excuse" - simply checking exposure, focus, composition, commercial value) on an image by image basis.

If Yuri can get similars through the review, all other contributors should as well. While he gets his stuff (most likely 100%) accepted, other contributors still get the similar "excuse".

Like I said, as long as the images are technically worth being accepted then don't make a difference between Yuri and others.

Whether your company or not - it WILL leave a sour taste in many contributors' mouths and this may come back to you some day...


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FD



« Reply #83 on: September 05, 2010, 12:52 »
Quote from: click_click on September 05, 2010, 11:51
I still think it should be fair.
Nothing is fair in life and death. Some people die young, some old. All contributors were created equal, but some are more equal than others. It's like that in every business.  Roll Eyes
Somebody that buys 10 generators in China will perhaps get 5$ of the price per unit and he will have to deal with a sales lady in a small back office and go by bus.
Somebody that orders a full container with the monthly production of the plant will be fetched by limo, received by the bowing CEO, dined and wined, and he can virtually name his price. It's unfair! It's... like that.  Grin


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microstockphoto.co.uk


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« Reply #84 on: September 05, 2010, 13:38 »
Hey, I like travelling with public transport - and sales ladies are usually nicer than CEOs.

OR...

when the stock factories will be dead and gone because this business will be unsustainable for them, we'll possibly still be here - justice in the end
« Last Edit: September 05, 2010, 13:42 by microstockphoto.co.uk »

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Vonkara



« Reply #85 on: September 05, 2010, 16:20 »
Quote from: Eireann on July 16, 2010, 12:55

Reason for rejecting Yuri's images, quote, mot a mot - 'Beautiful photos but the people don't look real and their teeth are too white'  
In the end your classroom series was the winner, congratulations!


Well said ! There is 2 ways to see stock photography IMO. The designer way that want simple, real looking, not over edited, not cropped and not necessarily smiling people. And the stock photographer side that often think more the model look plastic, better it will sell.

Which was true sometimes, a couple of years ago. Things changed from what I see lately, because of the overabundance of plastic designs the last couple of years...
« Last Edit: September 05, 2010, 16:33 by Vonkara »

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yuliang11


« Reply #86 on: September 06, 2010, 12:01 »
Quote from: FD-regular on September 05, 2010, 12:52
Quote from: click_click on September 05, 2010, 11:51
I still think it should be fair.
Nothing is fair in life and death. Some people die young, some old. All contributors were created equal, but some are more equal than others. It's like that in every business.  Roll Eyes
Somebody that buys 10 generators in China will perhaps get 5$ of the price per unit and he will have to deal with a sales lady in a small back office and go by bus.
Somebody that orders a full container with the monthly production of the plant will be fetched by limo, received by the bowing CEO, dined and wined, and he can virtually name his price. It's unfair! It's... like that.  Grin

yes life is not fair it never will be. what about apartheid system in south africa? do you go and tell them life is not fair and the people should just accept it ? policy and life are different things.


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traveler1116


« Reply #87 on: September 06, 2010, 14:06 »
Quote from: sharpshot on May 30, 2010, 01:36
This can't be good for DT.  Would be nice to know the reasons why these people are no longer uploading and if DT care?  Surely not having those people on board is going to lose them business?  Other contributors might give up on them and buyers might look elsewhere for all those missing images.  

I sometimes get annoyed that they reject images that sell on other sites, they seem to want higher quality to sell as subs and that wont work, see what has happened to crestock.  Their similars rejections can also get tedious, letting the buyers decide what they want is sensible, not leaving it to the reviewers.

I might consider giving them higher quality images for higher commissions and if I could opt them out of subs but they are not offering us that.  Something is going to have to change or I don't like the future for DT.

What?  It's Dreamstime that's why they stopped uploading. 


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