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jonbull

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« Reply #25 on: December 08, 2017, 08:29 »
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Lagereek, why would I ever want to meet you after you threatened me online under several different names, and even got me banned from the Shutterstock forum. Please stay away from me as far as possible.

is it true? always suspected something.
personally while i like talk here i don't believe anybody till i see their folio.


« Reply #26 on: December 08, 2017, 08:51 »
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is it true? always suspected something.
personally while i like talk here i don't believe anybody till i see their folio.

Anyone can post any links to any portfolio. That is no guarantee. I would say it's worse to blindly trust someone because of an avatar or portfolio links.

The only way is to see how a person writes, and if he/she stays consistent over a longer period of time. This is hard to fake.

This is the internet. You can't trust anything.
« Last Edit: December 08, 2017, 09:11 by increasingdifficulty »

jonbull

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« Reply #27 on: December 08, 2017, 10:20 »
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is it true? always suspected something.
personally while i like talk here i don't believe anybody till i see their folio.

Anyone can post any links to any portfolio. That is no guarantee. I would say it's worse to blindly trust someone because of an avatar or portfolio links.

The only way is to see how a person writes, and if he/she stays consistent over a longer period of time. This is hard to fake.

This is the internet. You can't trust anything.

u nail it...that's why i don't believe some. but that's great. anyway i hope all agency kill the search tab popular. i will lose some bestseller but my new files will sell for sure.
i'm uploading christmas stuff...i spend more than 400 dollar in props,plate, cook, and everything is buried after on hours from being accepted by terrible stuff who look like having been photographed by a 9 years old child.

« Reply #28 on: December 08, 2017, 10:57 »
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is it true? always suspected something.
personally while i like talk here i don't believe anybody till i see their folio.

Anyone can post any links to any portfolio. That is no guarantee....

I use my own name on my account here and most of my sites (it's jsnover rather than joannsnover at some of the older ones). You can Google my name and see pretty much anything about me. It's a risky way to operate - sites can and have closed my account because they didn't like my organizing activities - but people know who I am.

The reasons so many people are anonymous are (a) threat of agency retaliation, (b) concern about copycats, or (c) concern about conflicts with day job/macro stock agency portfolios or other "brand" issues.

You can't really post any link to any portfolio, at least not one that's been around a while and where someone is already here on MSG - you'll be spotted as a duplicate pretty quickly. Posting a link to a small/new portfolio won't get anyone fake credibility and the moment a scam artist picked a more established portfolio to impersonate, the odds of getting found out go way up.

Meeting someone in person is no guarantee that they are who they say they are any more than "meeting" them online - you do have to have your wits about you always. Certainly watching someone who's new with caution is always a wise move until they have a track record to assess them with

« Reply #29 on: December 08, 2017, 11:12 »
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I use my own name on my account here and most of my sites (it's jsnover rather than joannsnover at some of the older ones). You can Google my name and see pretty much anything about me. It's a risky way to operate - sites can and have closed my account because they didn't like my organizing activities - but people know who I am.
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You can't really post any link to any portfolio, at least not one that's been around a while and where someone is already here on MSG - you'll be spotted as a duplicate pretty quickly. Posting a link to a small/new portfolio won't get anyone fake credibility and the moment a scam artist picked a more established portfolio to impersonate, the odds of getting found out go way up.

Well, anyone can create a new account, take your picture, post your portfolio links and say that YOU are the imposter. It wouldn't surprise me if there are profiles here claiming to be some successful author, while the real author has never even set foot on this site. After all, a tiny, tiny minority of stock contributors visit this site.

It's hard to really prove anything other than going through a whole process of "ok, tomorrow I will upload a picture like this to my portfolio, that is the real me".

Yes, I'm taking this to the extreme, but you can't blindly trust anyone here, no matter the avatars or portfolio links. Just be aware of that.
« Last Edit: December 08, 2017, 11:15 by increasingdifficulty »

derek

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« Reply #30 on: December 08, 2017, 11:17 »
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wait till the "ghost-busters" arrive at your topic. They will destroy your first-hand experience of how an algorithm is capping your sales. "It is all in your head" they will say. Naive people, that don't know what you can do with technology.
We know about the same algorithm sales capping crap from SS, which is less noticeable than this from Adobe. At SS you have less noticeable but constant sales, which are slowly increasing yearly. We never had over 100 sales in a month (with almost 13000 video files), but we are near this number. Maybe in 2018 we will finally reach it.

Even Pond5 has some kinda capping algorithm. We even experienced 14days no sales (we have 13000 files?!) and then full-throttle another 14days of sales. The worst is when a whole month has almost no sales and then another month is very good.

i completely agree. with. u...that's why i keep growing just seeing old files while my new files which are by far more stock and much better done are buried...that's why if i reach some earning for 15th of month, i see stop of sale every month and full throttle at the end to reach just a steady 15% growth every month.
focolai is a mistery. they simply favour some kind of stock photography. look their bestseller r of day. all the same stuff.
so boring composition from christmas for example. cheap balls with some glow . i hope to get accepted in stocksy so i an dump all this idiot industry.

Why not try Offset and Blend as well??  nothing to lose is there? :)

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« Reply #31 on: December 08, 2017, 11:19 »
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Lagereek, why would I ever want to meet you after you threatened me online under several different names, and even got me banned from the Shutterstock forum. Please stay away from me as far as possible.
Why did he threaten you? I thought we are all on the same side?

jonbull

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« Reply #32 on: December 08, 2017, 11:37 »
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Lagereek, why would I ever want to meet you after you threatened me online under several different names, and even got me banned from the Shutterstock forum. Please stay away from me as far as possible.
Why did he threaten you? I thought we are all on the same side?

most macro agency hates micro stock..if you have a serious photo job like documentary or fine art working with gallery, micro stock is a strong cons. i win many awards in the last three years for example, with my documentary. i don't like the idea i can be linked to micro stock.

jonbull

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« Reply #33 on: December 08, 2017, 11:38 »
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wait till the "ghost-busters" arrive at your topic. They will destroy your first-hand experience of how an algorithm is capping your sales. "It is all in your head" they will say. Naive people, that don't know what you can do with technology.
We know about the same algorithm sales capping crap from SS, which is less noticeable than this from Adobe. At SS you have less noticeable but constant sales, which are slowly increasing yearly. We never had over 100 sales in a month (with almost 13000 video files), but we are near this number. Maybe in 2018 we will finally reach it.

Even Pond5 has some kinda capping algorithm. We even experienced 14days no sales (we have 13000 files?!) and then full-throttle another 14days of sales. The worst is when a whole month has almost no sales and then another month is very good.

i completely agree. with. u...that's why i keep growing just seeing old files while my new files which are by far more stock and much better done are buried...that's why if i reach some earning for 15th of month, i see stop of sale every month and full throttle at the end to reach just a steady 15% growth every month.
focolai is a mistery. they simply favour some kind of stock photography. look their bestseller r of day. all the same stuff.
so boring composition from christmas for example. cheap balls with some glow . i hope to get accepted in stocksy so i an dump all this idiot industry.

Why not try Offset and Blend as well??  nothing to lose is there? :)

offset for sure. blend can be a good substitute to stocksy.

derek

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« Reply #34 on: December 08, 2017, 11:47 »
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wait till the "ghost-busters" arrive at your topic. They will destroy your first-hand experience of how an algorithm is capping your sales. "It is all in your head" they will say. Naive people, that don't know what you can do with technology.
We know about the same algorithm sales capping crap from SS, which is less noticeable than this from Adobe. At SS you have less noticeable but constant sales, which are slowly increasing yearly. We never had over 100 sales in a month (with almost 13000 video files), but we are near this number. Maybe in 2018 we will finally reach it.

Even Pond5 has some kinda capping algorithm. We even experienced 14days no sales (we have 13000 files?!) and then full-throttle another 14days of sales. The worst is when a whole month has almost no sales and then another month is very good.

i completely agree. with. u...that's why i keep growing just seeing old files while my new files which are by far more stock and much better done are buried...that's why if i reach some earning for 15th of month, i see stop of sale every month and full throttle at the end to reach just a steady 15% growth every month.
focolai is a mistery. they simply favour some kind of stock photography. look their bestseller r of day. all the same stuff.
so boring composition from christmas for example. cheap balls with some glow . i hope to get accepted in stocksy so i an dump all this idiot industry.

Why not try Offset and Blend as well??  nothing to lose is there? :)

offset for sure. blend can be a good substitute to stocksy.

At Blend and SPL you will get your own AD working closely with you in order to achieve the best possible goals! selling power!

« Reply #35 on: December 10, 2017, 13:44 »
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Lagereek, why would I ever want to meet you after you threatened me online under several different names, and even got me banned from the Shutterstock forum. Please stay away from me as far as possible.
Why did he threaten you? I thought we are all on the same side?
I don't know whether to admire your faith in human nature or despair at your naivety. Always treat anything you read on the internet with scepticism.


 

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