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« on: November 02, 2011, 23:50 »
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Is it a good decision If I become an exclusive at fotolia?  I want to become an exclusive contributor exclude Is. thanks.


« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2011, 01:03 »
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Why would you want to become exclusive at a middle-tier (for earnings) agency? From a financial point of view it just doesn't make sense at all.

« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2011, 01:15 »
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oh god no.

« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2011, 02:53 »
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Why would you want to become exclusive at a middle-tier (for earnings) agency? From a financial point of view it just doesn't make sense at all.

Because I know many photographer do well at IS, but never heard somebody success at fotolia . So, the first choice to become an exclusive contributor is Istockphoto?

« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2011, 03:54 »
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I would certainly look at DT before FT if you really want to become exclusive

« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2011, 10:27 »
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Actually, I am exclusive to fotolia, and my stock income is about 80 percent of my total income. That it doesn't make financial sense to most other microstock contributors but does to me and a few other Europeans is due to the fact that fotolia is the market leader in Europe, and I get evidence for that every single day. I haven't seen much growth this year, I must admit, although my port is growing constantly, but I have always had steady sales from them, even when everyone is suffering the summer slow down. And of course, being in Europe, I get paid in Euros.
There was a best match shake at the beginning of the year that no longer gave new images a push in the search as it used to, but since august, new images do pick up.
Not that I trust them at all, but my leaving istock as my second best agency, more or less forced me into exclusivity, and I do have a significant plus in income. To cushion the risk (can you say that in English? ???) I'm planning to shoot quite a bit of RM next year.
Being independent doesn't make sense without contributing to istock, which for me would have meant to watch them helping themselves to 84 percent, - somehow, I simply cannot bring myself to do that.

« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2011, 22:17 »
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Dreamstime has better sales. They give you .20 per image when you sign up.. as if you just uploaded them.. You get 60% of your sales. So you get paid to upload images.
I am going exclusive with Dreamstime if Fotolia ever deletes my images.. ugghhh! Then I will be getting my bonus for going exclusive! Cant wait!~

lagereek

« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2011, 01:08 »
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Pheby!  yes I can see your point and there is nothing wrong with exclusivity, it worked for 30 years in the trad-agencies and without problems. Just that on internet based micros with gazillions of images, pseudonyms, the lot, excluysivity is an edgy concept.

RM! yes indeed, I have shot lots of it so far this year, both RM and RF and I tell you, RM sales are increasing by the hour, at least from my experience, might be that many buyers, especially creative buyers are getting fed-up with all the ups and downs of micros, slow processes, interfaces full of bugs and glitches, not to speak of dreadful search-engines as, IS,  etc.
I mean the only three, major micros working really are SS, DT and FT.

My plan is the basically the same, much, much more RM,  still uploading to the other three micros.

good luck.

« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2011, 01:53 »
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Dreamstime has better sales. They give you .20 per image when you sign up.. as if you just uploaded them.. You get 60% of your sales. So you get paid to upload images.
I am going exclusive with Dreamstime if Fotolia ever deletes my images.. ugghhh! Then I will be getting my bonus for going exclusive! Cant wait!~

Agree.... as former exclusive contributor with DT ( and very, very good results) i must say that DT is the best choice in this moment to become exclusive... Although i not recommend to become an exclusive contributor.

« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2011, 10:52 »
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Agree.... as former exclusive contributor with DT ( and very, very good results) i must say that DT is the best choice in this moment to become exclusive... Although i not recommend to become an exclusive contributor.
Why?

« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2011, 10:53 »
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Let's not forget that images rather than contributors rise through the levels on DT so, assuming sales volumes are broadly similar, earnings per sale can increase much more quickly.  My average this month so far is $2.50 on DT and 0.50 on FT with similar volumes and port size.  That would double for exclusives.
« Last Edit: November 08, 2011, 10:55 by heywoody »

« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2011, 10:58 »
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Let's not forget that images rather than contributors rise through the levels on DT so, assuming sales volumes are broadly similar, earnings per sale can increase much more quickly.  My average this month so far is $2.50 on DT and 0.50 on FT with similar volumes and port size.  That would double for exclusives.
Make it triple or quadruple, since the search engine plays a very important role if you have a varied portfolio. There is always the "good enough" image vs the "best". A buyer (or most) won't wade to page 99 of the search results if an image on page 1 is good enough.

« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2011, 15:27 »
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Course there is IS in the exclusivity game.... but to get a good return from stock you need at least 500 images online. to get 500 images accepted on IS is very hard for a beginner and quite difficult even for a Middle tier... so if somebody wants to be exclusive somewhere (beginner) DT is the best choice....

« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2011, 16:30 »
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Personally, I think exclusivity is a bad idea.  Every agency with an exclusivity plan has screwed its suppliers either once or multiple times.  Fotolia has reduced royalties and raised the goalposts several times.  iStock has done worse.  And now we have Dreamstime giving partner agencies commissions that come out of our pockets.

Better to simplify your upload workflow.  With a little creativity and some handy scripts, I can submit to ten agencies without much more effort than it takes for one.  And beside the financial benefits, I'm not stuck with the next agency that tries to play with my royalties.

charlene

« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2011, 10:23 »
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I'am an exclusive at Fotolia and was very happy with them until now. With a small port ( around 700 pictures ) I made very good incomes between january and july 2011 ( I mean at least 600 euros per month. ) But since august incomes seem to decline a bit. Fotolia changes rules every 6 months and it's very annoying >:(
Unlike Elwynn, I wonder if I should stay an exclusive at Fotolia or start to put my pictures on other microstocks without any exclusivity ??
I need your advice because I really don't know what to do.
« Last Edit: November 11, 2011, 10:26 by charlene »

grp_photo

« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2011, 10:45 »
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Actually, I am exclusive to fotolia, and my stock income is about 80 percent of my total income. That it doesn't make financial sense to most other microstock contributors but does to me and a few other Europeans is due to the fact that fotolia is the market leader in Europe, and I get evidence for that every single day. I haven't seen much growth this year, I must admit, although my port is growing constantly, but I have always had steady sales from them, even when everyone is suffering the summer slow down. And of course, being in Europe, I get paid in Euros.
There was a best match shake at the beginning of the year that no longer gave new images a push in the search as it used to, but since august, new images do pick up.
Not that I trust them at all, but my leaving istock as my second best agency, more or less forced me into exclusivity, and I do have a significant plus in income. To cushion the risk (can you say that in English? ???) I'm planning to shoot quite a bit of RM next year.
Being independent doesn't make sense without contributing to istock, which for me would have meant to watch them helping themselves to 84 percent, - somehow, I simply cannot bring myself to do that.
It's 80% of your income and you are only silver you must live on a tight budget considering the living-costs in Germany! :o
I would say 'to reduce the risk' and I don't think you can use cushion in that sense in English but I'm German too so it's likely that I'm wrong. :D
« Last Edit: November 11, 2011, 14:03 by grp_photo »

« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2011, 13:58 »
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@grp_photo:

"reduce" is clearly better! "cushion" is for the verb "blow", I think.

My budget isn't really that tight. No car, no kids, no mortgage or other debt, and a cheep rent... Right now, I'm on the official average net income of where I live.

Also, I may be silver, but comparing myself to other silver members and the numbers they publish, I actually seem to sell quite a bit more than they do.

grp_photo

« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2011, 14:06 »
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Good for you!  :) I'm on a higher rank than you but couldn't even half of my rent paying with their money, therefore I was wondering. But they also paying me in Dollars  :-\

« Reply #18 on: November 11, 2011, 14:32 »
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Being paid in Euros makes a massive difference!

Microstock InsiderPhotoDune

 

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