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Semmick Photo

« Reply #75 on: May 14, 2015, 11:46 »
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Mat, is Adobe holding on to the legacy decisions of Fotolia, or will they let people back in that got expelled without clear reason given?


Rinderart

« Reply #76 on: May 14, 2015, 12:43 »
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OK what does this mean?

"You are about to submit 1 content. Content without complete indexing will be saved but not submitted for moderation.
Cancel/Confirm"

No idea  ???

Clicked confirm and it went thru to review anyway

Did the same. and not submitted. Im lost on this new system. Always said....whatever site makes this painless wins. This has Pain.

« Reply #77 on: May 14, 2015, 13:05 »
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OK what does this mean?

"You are about to submit 1 content. Content without complete indexing will be saved but not submitted for moderation.
Cancel/Confirm"

No idea  ???

Clicked confirm and it went thru to review anyway

Did the same. and not submitted. Im lost on this new system. Always said....whatever site makes this painless wins. This has Pain.

That message is informing you that IF there is a problem the changes you made will be saved.

If there is a problem after you click to submit the area that is not completed should be highlighted with a thin red box.

-Mat

« Reply #78 on: May 14, 2015, 13:50 »
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Mat, is Adobe holding on to the legacy decisions of Fotolia, or will they let people back in that got expelled without clear reason given?

@SemmickPhoto, Nothing has changed at Fotolia regarding policies and procedures. I'm more than happy to discuss individual account issues privately. Feel free to email me: mhayward@adobe.com.

-Mat

Semmick Photo

« Reply #79 on: May 14, 2015, 13:53 »
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Alright, thanks, will do.

« Reply #80 on: May 14, 2015, 18:35 »
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Mat, is Adobe holding on to the legacy decisions of Fotolia, or will they let people back in that got expelled without clear reason given?

@SemmickPhoto, Nothing has changed at Fotolia regarding policies and procedures. I'm more than happy to discuss individual account issues privately. Feel free to email me: mhayward@adobe.com.

-Mat

That is just sad.

Rinderart

« Reply #81 on: May 15, 2015, 13:10 »
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Looks Like it was designed By a it Guy, Not someone that will use it all the time. OR, Maybe Im/were so used to the other one.  Folks who spend all there time on One site get it. some of us have 10/20 sites we have to remember how to navigate.

Bottom Line , sales are still Picking up.

« Reply #82 on: May 18, 2015, 02:35 »
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Hi everyone,
I just noticed that many of my old files are assigned to a wrong category after the site facelift. Is there an easy way to fix it in batch mode without messing up something else? Does batch editing the categories of selected files in a folder work? Doing it one by one is a huge volume of work.
Anyone has a solution, maybe Mat?
Thank you.

« Reply #83 on: May 18, 2015, 03:27 »
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Never mind. It's not possible because subcategories are very tight, which is a good thing. e.g.: food → fruits → apples.

« Reply #84 on: May 18, 2015, 04:13 »
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Maybe they should have changed the "ranking system" as well...separately for videos and photos. A contributor with video port will never be able to grow in rank as a photographer.Not to mention that there is a penalty in the search engine for those contributors with low ranking...

« Reply #85 on: May 18, 2015, 07:33 »
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Maybe they should have changed the "ranking system" as well...separately for videos and photos. A contributor with video port will never be able to grow in rank as a photographer.Not to mention that there is a penalty in the search engine for those contributors with low ranking...

FT has a history of baking in any functional strategy that favors FT and hangs the contributor out to dry, essentially leaving it up to contributors to find out on their own that they are being taken advantage of. They have EARNED that reputation. With the current management still in place I see absolutely no reason why anything would change.


« Reply #87 on: May 19, 2015, 10:57 »
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All great changes!  Thanks Mat! 
:)

« Reply #88 on: May 19, 2015, 14:32 »
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Thanks for the updates Mat

ngaga35

« Reply #89 on: May 19, 2015, 20:00 »
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Yup, great updates indeed.
Thanks Mat.  :)

Rinderart

« Reply #90 on: May 28, 2015, 15:37 »
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After working with new upload system. It's all good. I hate change...LOL especially after so many years. I would prefer 20 Images instead of 10 On the web Uploader.

« Reply #91 on: May 28, 2015, 15:48 »
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@mat

Thanks for updates!   8)

« Reply #92 on: May 29, 2015, 10:48 »
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After working with new upload system. It's all good. I hate change...LOL especially after so many years. I would prefer 20 Images instead of 10 On the web Uploader.

Just highlighting this, fully agree.

« Reply #93 on: June 01, 2015, 03:55 »
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-The number of keywords entered is now displayed in the indexing form adjacent to each image.
-The language will be changed in the indexing page to indicate you can add up to 50 keywords though 30 is recommended.
-Mat


Nice talk Mat, let us dream!

I don't want to be a killjoy but honestly, why bother when only a preferred part of them will be indexed?
Your new dictionary will change any keyword with never heard (for some of us) synonyms like "gourmet" to "epicure", just because gourmet is not of English origin. Or "medicinal" to "medicative", who knows why?

You say in https://eu.fotolia.com/Info/Contributors/Tips/Indexing/Overview :
"The keywords are certainly the most important fields of the indexation; these often make a huge difference in an images sales potential. This is the customers primary search method. So, it is very important to fill those fields very carefully.

To make sure you use the right keywords, put yourself in the place of a buyer; what keyword would you type in, if you were looking for this particular image?"

That's all true, so:
- would buyers look for "epicure" or for "gourmet" when searching for cake?
- would they look for "medicinal" hers or for "medicative" herbs?
- will my medicinal plant images have better sales potential with the keyword "medicative" as with "medicinal"? Do plants have medicinal properties or medicative properties?
Even in this text the word medicative is red underlined by spell check.

Indeed these words are synonyms but I've never heard about "epicure", I just looked it up in several well known dictionaries and guess what?
My cake is:
http://www.yourdictionary.com/epicure
noun

    1. Someone who has a refined taste for fine food and drink.
        An example of an epicure is a writer for a food magazine.
    2. A person devoted to sensuous pleasure and luxurious living.

While gourmet food:
Gourmet is a cultural ideal associated with the culinary arts of fine food and drink, or haute cuisine. Wikipedia.

FT was my no.1 agency (no matter what others say) but I'm totally lost on this new site.

ShadySue

« Reply #94 on: June 01, 2015, 04:07 »
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Your new dictionary will change any keyword with never heard (for some of us) synonyms like "gourmet" to "epicure", just because gourmet is not of English origin.
Ha - French = bad; Latin = good.

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Or "medicinal" to "medicative", who knows why?
The latter sounds American to me, but I still don't think it's widely used.
'Medicinal compound' OTOH is well known to all Brits 'of a certain age'.

« Reply #95 on: June 01, 2015, 04:19 »
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I still don't think it's widely used.
That's what I'm talking about. Keywords should be the most widely used, simple words.

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Ha - French = bad; Latin = good.
Btw. English has nothing to do with Latin, while French is a Latin, Romanic ( Gallo-Romance) language.
« Last Edit: June 01, 2015, 04:28 by Dodie »

ShadySue

« Reply #96 on: June 01, 2015, 04:46 »
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Btw. English has nothing to do with Latin
Ha! I'm not getting into linguistic debates, but not all of our Latin derivations originate in Greek.
However, in this case: Epicure orginates with Greek:
Late Middle English (denoting a disciple of Epicurus): via medieval Latin from Greek Epikouros 'Epicurus'.

« Reply #97 on: June 01, 2015, 05:18 »
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Btw. English has nothing to do with Latin
Ha! I'm not getting into linguistic debates,
Sorry, I didn't mean it like that. I'm just trying to guess FT's reasoning. Why is a well known keyword changed to a less used one, or more precisely, how do I know what keywords to use to be accepted when indexing.
When it is about keyword spamming I'm the first to agree to delete those words but I've never seen an agency that substitutes my words with whatever they believe to be more suitable.
« Last Edit: June 01, 2015, 05:42 by Dodie »

« Reply #98 on: June 01, 2015, 11:15 »
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I'm not sure I'm following you. What is the primary concern? I searched "gourmet" in Fotolia and found over 1 million results. Are you concerned that the system will change the word gourmet to epicure automatically as a translation into English? As far as I can tell that isn't happening. Please let me know what specific information your concern is based on so I can investigate.

Thank you,

Mat



-The number of keywords entered is now displayed in the indexing form adjacent to each image.
-The language will be changed in the indexing page to indicate you can add up to 50 keywords though 30 is recommended.
-Mat


Nice talk Mat, let us dream!

I don't want to be a killjoy but honestly, why bother when only a preferred part of them will be indexed?
Your new dictionary will change any keyword with never heard (for some of us) synonyms like "gourmet" to "epicure", just because gourmet is not of English origin. Or "medicinal" to "medicative", who knows why?

You say in https://eu.fotolia.com/Info/Contributors/Tips/Indexing/Overview :
"The keywords are certainly the most important fields of the indexation; these often make a huge difference in an images sales potential. This is the customers primary search method. So, it is very important to fill those fields very carefully.

To make sure you use the right keywords, put yourself in the place of a buyer; what keyword would you type in, if you were looking for this particular image?"

That's all true, so:
- would buyers look for "epicure" or for "gourmet" when searching for cake?
- would they look for "medicinal" hers or for "medicative" herbs?
- will my medicinal plant images have better sales potential with the keyword "medicative" as with "medicinal"? Do plants have medicinal properties or medicative properties?
Even in this text the word medicative is red underlined by spell check.

Indeed these words are synonyms but I've never heard about "epicure", I just looked it up in several well known dictionaries and guess what?
My cake is:
http://www.yourdictionary.com/epicure
noun

    1. Someone who has a refined taste for fine food and drink.
        An example of an epicure is a writer for a food magazine.
    2. A person devoted to sensuous pleasure and luxurious living.

While gourmet food:
Gourmet is a cultural ideal associated with the culinary arts of fine food and drink, or haute cuisine. Wikipedia.

FT was my no.1 agency (no matter what others say) but I'm totally lost on this new site.

« Reply #99 on: June 01, 2015, 13:40 »
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I'm not sure I'm following you. What is the primary concern? I searched "gourmet" in Fotolia and found over 1 million results. Are you concerned that the system will change the word gourmet to epicure automatically as a translation into English? As far as I can tell that isn't happening. Please let me know what specific information your concern is based on so I can investigate.

Thank you,

Mat



Hi Mat,

I noticed lately that some strange keywords are showing up on my newly uploaded images but I had no time to investigate when I first saw them. I didn't even know the meaning of some of them, so I couldn't have put them there.
Yes, someone (the system) is changing the keywords, often with totally irrelevant, out of context synonyms.
There can be 1 million results for gourmet but on old files. Please search for epicure, new or relevant search, take any, cake, chocolate, ice cream image from the first page and see if you will find "gourmet". IF you have access to the keywords on the indexing page you can compare them to the ones on the image page.

My main concerns are:
- changing good keywords with irrelevant ones looks like spamming to the buyer.
- even worse is that special, technical terms from a niche are changed to poetry which could make the buyer doubt the photographer's mental well-being.
Example:  "screeding"(http://www.pavingexpert.com/screeding.htm) changed to "screening".

Industrial, technical terms have their own dictionary. I worked a lot to find the right technical terms in English for my photos, no other agency changed them.

All examples from above are real and many more, but I don't want to post my images here.
I'm surprised that nobody complained and more surprised that you don't know about this.

Thanks for your help Mat. Unfortunately I don't see a fix for this but I would be happy with some kind of warning during indexing, when a keyword is not accepted. Let me find the right synonym.


 

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