Fotolia - Give us Payoneer, cheque, ... something!

Harold4

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« on: February 10, 2011, 18:18 »

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It is _really_ time to review your payout methods.
Moneybookers and Paypal, both are known to be unreliable and very restricted in use to few countries.
It CANNOT be that an international company of this size is not able to offer its suppliers an professional payout method. Even if it is just the classical cheque.

BRING US MORE PAYOUt OPTIONS!


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luissantos84

« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2011, 18:50 »

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royalties back to 2007!


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dirkr

« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2011, 03:13 »

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Quote from: Harold4 on February 10, 2011, 18:18

... professional payout method...

...the classical cheque....

That's a contradiction in itself Grin


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madelaide

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« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2011, 06:43 »

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I understand they not being available in any country, but what is unreliable about PP or MB?


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csproductions

« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2011, 08:19 »

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I've been using PayPal for years without a single problem. I think most of the problems that occur with them actually come from the phishers who attempt to send email messages that look like they're official PP communications. I've never had a problem because I always recognize them, and I forward them to "[email protected]" PayPal responds promptly letting me know that it was indeed a phishing attempt, and that they're making every effort to track down the culprits and eliminate the site. If ever there is any doubt, you can simply log onto the site because any communication by email from PP will also be on the site in your account. If it's not there, that's a good indication that you've been targeted by phishers.

Plus, PP seems to be the only system that provides a Mastercard debit card for free, which has proven to be very valuable and convenient to me. Hopefully, they'll be expanding into other areas not currently being served.


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velocicarpo

« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2011, 08:22 »

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Madelaide, Both of those companies don`t follow the usual banking laws. If you do a little research you get an Idea of the questionable behaviour of them. For example they use to block the accounts of members for dubious reasons which would not hold any court and clearly move outside the law, at least in many european countries. A friend of mine just sued them for blocking the account and refusing to payout the money.
Please google "Paypal" and "Problem" and you will find all you need...

Have a nice day


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velocicarpo

« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2011, 08:27 »

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CSProductions: Yes, it CAN work fine. But at any moment you can run into Problems. Just because it works fine for some people it doesn`t mean they are reliable. And no, it is not everything about phishers...
Even if there is a chance of losing your money or a certain number of complaints I don`t trust a company which handles my money. I would never open a account in a bank which is known to lock the money of its customers for dubious reasons, even if there are hundred people who, by chance, had no problem in the past.

Beyond that. Paypal is not available in every country. If you are a contributor from one of those not supported countries you ahve no chance to get your royalties from fotolia.


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velocicarpo

« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2011, 08:32 »

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Just read the customer reviews :-)
http://www.reviewcentre.com/reviews53167.html


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madelaide

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« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2011, 10:54 »

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Well, I don't know any case of problems with PP or MB directly from the person affected, and in fact I would not give much consideration to complaints of unknown or annonymous users of these sites. I don't remember anyone here having a problem with them. A true problem, I mean. For years I wasn't able to receive money from PP here in Brazil, but I knew that when I signed up, so I can not complain about that. Now this is allowed - great! I never had any issue either buying nor,paying with PP, or sending/receiving.


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Perry

« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2011, 11:00 »

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Quote from: velocicarpo on February 11, 2011, 08:32

Just read the customer reviews :-)
http://www.reviewcentre.com/reviews53167.html

So? 83 angry people complaining, that's not very much considering there are propably millions of PayPal users. And nobody bothers to write a positive review for a finance/banking company.

It's always easier to find lots of negative reviews on something popular. Let's see if Toyota cars are better than Trabants http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=toyota+car+problem&word2=trabant+car+problem

I have never had a problem with them, except the high fees...

I think cheques are so old-fashioned, I'm from a nordic country and I haven't seen anyone use a check in over 20 years (I know people in USA still loves them for some reason I cannot understand).


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gostwyck

« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2011, 11:01 »

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Quote from: velocicarpo on February 11, 2011, 08:32

Just read the customer reviews :-)
http://www.reviewcentre.com/reviews53167.html

I guess that just goes to prove that people who are happy with a service don't bother to scour the internet to find other people who are also happy!

I too have have using PayPal for over 6 years and never had a problem. Yes, they can be quite restrictive particularly for new customers and in less developed countries, but that is due to their attention to security. Things are improving all the time though. When I started with PayPal I think there were only 3 currency options ($US, GBP & Euro) and now there are 21 currencies to choose from.

If I want to send money from the UK to Thailand for example my bank (HSBC) charges me a flat fee of £25 (about $40) irrespective of the amount. With PayPal it is free and the commercial exchange rate is almost identical to HSBC.


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velocicarpo

« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2011, 11:18 »

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gostwyck, first of all, congratulations that you still haven`t had problems! I wish you best luck that you will never have :-) But it`s far more than just 83 people. I just linked an example of an neutral site. If you want to see more, Google is your friend :-)

It is not a personal thing for me. Everybody should do it`s research about with what company you work with and make a responsible decision. If you go for paypal I wish you best luck and congratulate you for your decision and trust you that you did your homework.
I think, generally speaking, many people seem to think "Big company = Trustworthy", while experience proves oftenly the opposite. The bigger, the more arrogant and the less they care about customers. (see istock hehe).
It is not about what we WANT to believe, it is about facts.

I too come from a nordic country and had enver to do with cheques. To me personally I cannot udnerstand why there is not just a usual bank wire option. Within Europe it costs like nothing and is fast and without problems.But in other countries cheques are still comun. It depends on traditions I think.

When you use your paypal account just for stock you have a higher chance to be fine. If you use it e.g. for ebay there is a higher chance that you get your account locked.
All this really is no secret. As said, just use a bit google...

And, last but not least, I think nobody loses anything when there are more payout options :-) I like to have the choice...

Have a nice day


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gostwyck

« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2011, 11:35 »

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Quote from: velocicarpo on February 11, 2011, 11:18

And, last but not least, I think nobody loses anything when there are more payout options :-) I like to have the choice...

There are choices, lots of them. Unfortunately they are almost all very much more expensive, less convenient and take more time either for the contributor or for the agency.

You are bitterly condemning PayPal yet apparently without having tried them. The folk who complain loudly on the reviews are but a tiny fraction of PayPal users. Almost every highly successful global business develops an unfortunate army of irrational 'haters' __ quite simply because they are global and successful. That's what you sound like to me.

You should try PayPal. You never know __ you might actually have a good experience like all the rest of us.


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velocicarpo

« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2011, 11:43 »

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I was for 7 years with paypal, then suddently my account got locked with NO reason. I did nothing wrong, just received money from istock. I was able to resolve the case after 3 weeks and finally got my Money but I felt like s*** and betrayed. Beyond that it putted me into a bad situation. I will never trust them again and this comes from experience.

Fotolia gives only MB and Paypal. Personally I had no bad experiences with MB but I know that they use the same methods and they too are not available in many countries. Years ago I already heard about this Problem that many contributors are simple unable to withdraw their money from fotolia because they live in South america e.g. of Africa. I think we should support each other more in the Stock world.

Lately I use mostly Payoneer which is, for me at least, faster and cheaper than MB. I would be happy if Fotolia would offer Payoneer as well...the ones who want to stick with company XY are free to do so...


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gostwyck

« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2011, 11:51 »

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^^^ You also have the choice of not contributing to any agency who does not provide you with the wealth of payment options that you demand.

Your experience of one problem in 7 years, which was eventually resolved, doesn't sound like the end of civilisation to me. That's the internet for you. The real issue with all forms of internet-based commerce is the sheer volume of would-be thieves out there. If it weren't for them then things would be much simpler, quicker and cheaper for all of us.


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velocicarpo

« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2011, 12:48 »

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...so suggesting change or new options to an Agency or criticizing an Agency shouldn`t be done because we all have the choice not to contribute? Right...

Also, please keep in mind that I haven`t started that topic....


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madelaide

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« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2011, 16:26 »

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Quote from: velocicarpo on February 11, 2011, 11:43

Did they ever give you a reason? If not, I understand your anger, but you must also understand that this doesn't mean everyone will have the same opinion about PP, which is a very established company.

And what about MB, do you have a problem with them too, to consider them unreliable?


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luissantos84

« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2011, 16:35 »

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never had a problem with Paypal too


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fotografer

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« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2011, 16:40 »

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Quote from: luissantos84 on February 11, 2011, 16:35

never had a problem with Paypal too

Nor me and between the rest of my family and me we buy at least 10 items a month off ebay as well as monthly stock earnings from 6 sites.


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lisafx

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« Reply #19 on: February 11, 2011, 19:12 »

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I've never had a problem with paypal in the 8 or so years I have been using them. But I have certainly heard the horror stories and find some of them to be pretty credible.

I don't blame anyone for being cautious about what payment options they use, especially if large sums of money are involved.


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VB inc

« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2011, 21:48 »

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Quote from: velocicarpo on February 11, 2011, 08:22

Please google "Paypal" and "Problem" and you will find all you need...

You can google "anything" with "anything" and get numerous posts/websites agreeing with "anything". The key is to filter out most of that nonsense. The web is spreading stupidity faster than anything ever before as well as useful info.


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Microstock Posts

« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2011, 13:03 »

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I've had my UK pp ac. blocked 6 times in the last 2 years. Each time I have to go through a long process to get it reinstated. They are always very polite and eventually it always gets solved but it is tiresome. I'm hardly in the UK and my transactions are made from abroad and I assume alarm bells go off in their system. I've never had any problems with my Indonesian pp ac. though and I am trying to stick to this one as much as possible.

I agree with the OP, there should be more options.


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Anyka

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« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2011, 13:52 »

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I haven't had a PP problem since I joined in 2005. And even more : 3 times, PayPal solved a payment problem for me. 2 were from Ebay, and one was another Internet purchase. 3 times I got my money back with PP's help. So for me, they SOLVE problems instead of causing them. And if they ever need to block my account a few weeks during investigations, so be it.


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Harold4

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« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2011, 14:20 »

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There are several ongoing law suits against PayPal!
http://forum.purseblog.com/ebay-forum/class-action-lawsuit-against-paypal-for-holding-funds-577251.html
http://marketingblogtools.com/136/attorneys-agree-to-file-against-paypal-in-a-class-action-lawsuit/
http://www.auctionbytes.com/cab/abn/y10/m06/i08/s02

DO NOT TRUST THIS COMPANY!
In every civilized country you need to go to COURT to block the money of someone, not only a firm "assuming" "maybe" ,. …! Imagine your bank freezes your money because you sold your old computer and the Buyer complained! This is RIDICULOUS! There are Laws!

To those who never had probs (until now):
It is the same with drinking and driving! You always find some guys saying something like "I always drive after two beers and never anything happened…balblablalbalb" , but this does not mean that it is safe! Wake up!