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« on: December 30, 2011, 11:33 »
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They sent me this mail (I don't know why closing my contributore account put me on their mailing list)




"Oh, hey there!

Are you the shmuck stuck
in an office doldrums rut?

Sitting by your lonesome
whilst coworkers are abroad-some?

Putting in some time while
your teammates wine & dine?

Perhaps you should do something amazing, like buy stock photos for the next year starting at 40% off!

Just use promocode ATSE82SX when you make a purchase to get your discount.

Now, take the rest of the day off...

      

Check out our awesome bundle savings!
Purchased Credits   Bonus Credits   Total Credits
1,000   45%   1,450
2,000   60%   3,200
4,000   85%   7,400

Get some credits
Use promocode" ********

Fotolia will absorb the cost of this, right? Or have they some way of making contributors pay for the discount?


OM

« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2011, 13:04 »
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There is definitely something wrong with their copywriter! But I suppose they think it's 'hip' (does anyone use that word anymore?) and amusing. I would imagine that any expenses incurred by FT as a result of the offer come out of the marketing/advertising pot and not from contributors' revenues.

« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2011, 13:32 »
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Fotolia has always paid photographers the full commission rate even on promotional credits they give away for free. 

Uncle Pete

  • Evidence please...

« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2011, 14:45 »
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Fotolia has always paid photographers the full commission rate even on promotional credits they give away for free. 

A little history lesson.

Right, they don't cut the full commissions on sales, they just do stupid things like this to screw the artists:

Meanwhile I found 3 Images in my bestselling 100 set back to 1 Credit basic price for non selling. Well, FT, this is my answer: they go to all other agencies what can sell them!
You get them first and exclusive and you can't sell them.
That's not my problem it's yours.

With best regards.

That's ironic considering that they plan on knocking our images back to 1 credit if we sell them on other sites for less than they do.

(quoting the Fotolia site:) If Fotolia becomes aware that a non exclusive contributor with a rank of Emerald or above is distributing any images, vectors or videos (the Works) through another stock agency or website (where at least some of such Works are the same as the Works being distributed through Fotolia), and if the pricing charged on such other stock agency or website for the downloading of any of such contributors Works are comparatively lower than the pricing charged on Fotolia for downloading Works of White ranking contributors, then, subject to applicable law, Fotolia reserves the right, at its discretion, to lower the pricing of any of such contributor's Works offered through Fotolia so as to match the pricing for the Works of White ranking contributors on Fotolia. Subject to applicable law, Fotolia reserves the right to inquire, from time to time, with any given contributor with a rank of Emerald or above as to whether such contributor is distributing any Works through any other stock agency or website, and such contributor shall promptly provide this information to Fotolia. For clarity, Fotolia is under no obligation to make any such inquiries.

We've been citing Fotolia's base rate as 16%, based on Leaf's excellent analysis at the beginning of this year. I've just realised that his calculation was done when "white" was at the pretend 25% rate. It has since been reduced to a pretend 20% so the 16% has to be reduced by a fifth.

Just thought people might like to know.

2011 Commission Cuts:

Dear Fotolia Contributor,
2010 was another record year for the Fotolia community. We set new all-time highs for the number images in our collection, the number of members, and photographer royalty payouts. For 2011, we're implementing some changes in efforts to continue this trend.

Competition in the market is increasing, both amongst the photographers in the community, and amongst stock photography agencies. We've been monitoring the situation carefully, and have continued to increase our marketing spend in the number and frequency of ad campaigns. In addition, Fotolia continued its international leadership in new markets, with the opening of the Russian and Chinese web sites. With the increase in sales, the velocity of the rank changes has also accelerated. In order to sustain our continued efforts in marketing, we are making some changes to the royalty structures at the mid and lower tiers next week.

Fotolia continues to maintain photographer commissions at a significantly higher than those of our major competitors, and our increased efforts in marketing will result in an even higher velocity towards increased rankings.

Please note also that our new recency filter gives some priority to newer and fresher content, which means that the best new photographers with fresh content will have a better chance of rising to the higher ranks.

Thanks for your continued support, and we look forward to a great 2011 together.

Sincerely,
Fotolia.com

new rates (but I dont know the old)

Here is the price and royalty chart for non-exclusive files

Ranking    Contributor royalty (%)   
White    20   
Bronze    23   
Silver    25   
Gold         31
Emerald    37   
Sapphire    40   
Rubis    43   
Diamond    46

Did Fotolia just changed the upper limit for EL license for emerald contributors or is just me? Used to be 200, now the upper limit is 100... What's going on? No announcements, no explanations... I am getting sick of this.

Reranked without notice thread, Dec 2008:

Now we are talking about a company led by a man who

1. Instituted subscription sales and tried to pay us 22 cents per download when the current market rate was 30 cents

2 . recently made unannounced attempts to take away referral earnings

3. Changed the ranking levels with no discussion and no annuncment just as a significant number of long time contributors where on the threshold of reaching their goals.

4. Refused to give subscription sales the same weight in the ranking scale as a standard sale. Instead forcing us to give away 4 sub sales to equal one sale for the purpose of rank increase even though their is no difference in the license terms  for either sale.

-=-=-

So you say, yes they give you the full commission, but there are some details left out like percentages, levels, commission cuts and back door tactics.

« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2011, 16:04 »
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Might be time to switch to decaf.

I was just commenting on the topic at hand buddy.

Happy New Year.

Mat



Fotolia has always paid photographers the full commission rate even on promotional credits they give away for free. 

A little history lesson.

Right, they don't cut the full commissions on sales, they just do stupid things like this to screw the artists:

Meanwhile I found 3 Images in my bestselling 100 set back to 1 Credit basic price for non selling. Well, FT, this is my answer: they go to all other agencies what can sell them!
You get them first and exclusive and you can't sell them.
That's not my problem it's yours.

With best regards.

That's ironic considering that they plan on knocking our images back to 1 credit if we sell them on other sites for less than they do.

(quoting the Fotolia site:) If Fotolia becomes aware that a non exclusive contributor with a rank of Emerald or above is distributing any images, vectors or videos (the Works) through another stock agency or website (where at least some of such Works are the same as the Works being distributed through Fotolia), and if the pricing charged on such other stock agency or website for the downloading of any of such contributors Works are comparatively lower than the pricing charged on Fotolia for downloading Works of White ranking contributors, then, subject to applicable law, Fotolia reserves the right, at its discretion, to lower the pricing of any of such contributor's Works offered through Fotolia so as to match the pricing for the Works of White ranking contributors on Fotolia. Subject to applicable law, Fotolia reserves the right to inquire, from time to time, with any given contributor with a rank of Emerald or above as to whether such contributor is distributing any Works through any other stock agency or website, and such contributor shall promptly provide this information to Fotolia. For clarity, Fotolia is under no obligation to make any such inquiries.

We've been citing Fotolia's base rate as 16%, based on Leaf's excellent analysis at the beginning of this year. I've just realised that his calculation was done when "white" was at the pretend 25% rate. It has since been reduced to a pretend 20% so the 16% has to be reduced by a fifth.

Just thought people might like to know.

2011 Commission Cuts:

Dear Fotolia Contributor,
2010 was another record year for the Fotolia community. We set new all-time highs for the number images in our collection, the number of members, and photographer royalty payouts. For 2011, we're implementing some changes in efforts to continue this trend.

Competition in the market is increasing, both amongst the photographers in the community, and amongst stock photography agencies. We've been monitoring the situation carefully, and have continued to increase our marketing spend in the number and frequency of ad campaigns. In addition, Fotolia continued its international leadership in new markets, with the opening of the Russian and Chinese web sites. With the increase in sales, the velocity of the rank changes has also accelerated. In order to sustain our continued efforts in marketing, we are making some changes to the royalty structures at the mid and lower tiers next week.

Fotolia continues to maintain photographer commissions at a significantly higher than those of our major competitors, and our increased efforts in marketing will result in an even higher velocity towards increased rankings.

Please note also that our new recency filter gives some priority to newer and fresher content, which means that the best new photographers with fresh content will have a better chance of rising to the higher ranks.

Thanks for your continued support, and we look forward to a great 2011 together.

Sincerely,
Fotolia.com

new rates (but I dont know the old)

Here is the price and royalty chart for non-exclusive files

Ranking    Contributor royalty (%)   
White    20   
Bronze    23   
Silver    25   
Gold         31
Emerald    37   
Sapphire    40   
Rubis    43   
Diamond    46

Did Fotolia just changed the upper limit for EL license for emerald contributors or is just me? Used to be 200, now the upper limit is 100... What's going on? No announcements, no explanations... I am getting sick of this.

Reranked without notice thread, Dec 2008:

Now we are talking about a company led by a man who

1. Instituted subscription sales and tried to pay us 22 cents per download when the current market rate was 30 cents

2 . recently made unannounced attempts to take away referral earnings

3. Changed the ranking levels with no discussion and no annuncment just as a significant number of long time contributors where on the threshold of reaching their goals.

4. Refused to give subscription sales the same weight in the ranking scale as a standard sale. Instead forcing us to give away 4 sub sales to equal one sale for the purpose of rank increase even though their is no difference in the license terms  for either sale.

-=-=-

So you say, yes they give you the full commission, but there are some details left out like percentages, levels, commission cuts and back door tactics.

Uncle Pete

  • Evidence please...

« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2011, 22:47 »
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Might be time to switch to decaf.

I was just commenting on the topic at hand buddy.

Happy New Year.

Mat


Or maybe some single malt?

I hate making a point and someone says, "you have nothing to back it up." So I did the years of reductions to point out that, sure FT pays full commission. Problem is credits have dropped, commission has dropped, levels have been diddled, percentages adjusted, values of credits have dropped vs what buyers pay, files have been reset to 1 credit, without notice. So paying "Full Commission" on reduced cost credits, is smoke and mirrors.

Like the bank that just sent me a notice that they were not charging for the Debit Card, like some others, and a little down from that, listed the conditions where if I don't use the card or make 12 approved transactions a month (for fees of course) They will bill me a monthly service charge of $10. Oh boy, am I happy. Instead of $35 a year, they are going to nail me for $120 a year, at $10 a month. I'll be closing that account as soon as I can and get all my automatic deposits sent somewhere else. Ta Ta - Toodles - Bye Bye. See Ya TCF and your formerly Free Checking. True no annual fee, and no minimum balance either, they removed that, so we get screwed, but that's in the terms, like it's a benefit?

Yeah, FT pays full commission at a much lower rate, which keeps going lower. Gee I'm so happy for them doing sellers that grand favor.

Happy New Year to you too.

Pete


 

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