has anyone gotten this rejection reason from ft? "Your photographic work is excellent but does not meet the needs of the Fotolia customer base."

it's almost like a compliment isn't it? from ft who likes to ridicule our work as not aesthetically pleasing. there's a first for everything.

has anyone gotten this rejection reason from ft? "Your photographic work is excellent but does not meet the needs of the Fotolia customer base."

it's almost like a compliment isn't it? from ft who likes to ridicule our work as not aesthetically pleasing. there's a first for everything.

no i don't think it's meant to ridicule your work. i usually get pretty close to 100% approval with FT
but whenever i get the odd batch of rejections this is the reason. i don't find it insulting . I use the same line when i turn down someone whose work i think is excellent but i have no need for their collaboration at this moment.
we all have certain clientele and FT is no diff. it only means your work is great, but try submit the types of images they want, while maintaining your standards.

my suggestion to you is to either go elsewhere, or if you're really interested in FT, then submit the kind of images they take . they are unlike many of the Big 6 consistent in this sense.
in fact, i can almost be sure they would accept my work , which is why my approval with them has been high, but every once in a while i do push my luck to send them something not FT friendly
to see if they go for it. that's when I get this rejection reason.

chins up. don't try to read what is not there. just submit what they want.

I think we should be prepared to see more rejections across the board. Simple there is too many photographers trying to upload every possible subjects in mass amounts. Do you think agencies really need more photos? Most of them still have images smaller than 4mpix. Apparently customers do not need anything better. Also how likely is that customer would pick something from below couple top search pages? In result best sellers sell even more and newcomers are not even noticed. The only situation that you might have good selling image now is when you discovered something which is in high demand among customers but it is not represented in database which is very unlikely. Otherwise you  can only count on agency messing up their search engine :-)

hi perseus,

i think you misread my message also. i think because you rarely get ft rejects, you don't know the different types that there are. there's the the quality of photo reject based on aesthetic consideration, the not needed photo due to too many already in their library and then this one where they actually compliment your photo as excellent. it's the first for me on this last one. so, i'm not dejected at all. i think others will know where i'm coming from.

how do you get your 100% approval? all people?

my portfolio is very prolific, so i cannot say it's all xxx or all xxx.
other ppl i network with also have close to 100% approval , even though their port is diff from mine.

what we all did is submit a variety of our styles, and watch which of these concepts, as they call it in glamour photography, FT tends to like.  from there, we submit those to FT.

and yes, many of those that are favorites of the other Big 5 are usually rejected by FT.
it doesn't surprise me either, as FT clientele is diff from them.

Fotolia has always been my worst site. Funny thing when I cashed out my "$54.00" in June I was going to delete my account. Well within a week I sold $13.00 worth so I'm still with them till I make it again...maybe within the next 5 years...lol. Next time I'll close the account the same day I cash out!

lol, maybe you should keep planning to delete your account.
mine's even funnier, or ironic... everytime i get a rejected batch, which is not often, but it does, ir's always followed by a sale.
so, i wish for more rejections. ... but damnnnn, no chance ... they keep approving my uploads 

Fotolia is doing well for me. They have climbed solidly into the #3 spot, and I am just weeks away from officially being Silver. (I sold > 1000 long ago, but with all those 1/4 sub sales, it takes a lot more than 1000 sales to reach Silver.)

So I've got an odd situation with them. They sell well, but they don't want my stuff (my AR last year was about 30%). And it isn't like they are being picky. If I resend the same rejected images over and over, they eventually are accepted and begin to sell.  But I don't do that often, so my portfolio there is almost half the size it is at IS.

It's a lot of work, and it sucks to be treated that way. But at least they do sell well for me. 

i gave up reading the fp reject reasons lng ago - they're just too arbitrary - i submit when i have some spare time, like during commercials while watching tv. 

they come in about #5 or 6 each month for me - fighting it out with is, 123 and BigStock

steve

God forbid you should upload a pair of boots and a pair of shoes....they would reject them for being to many like images. Last time I looked a pair of boots and a pair of shoes don't look quite the same. But if you upload in small batches being careful not to include those "like" images together then it's more likely they will get through. Sad but true....

Fotolia is consistently no 1 for me in earnings and take just about anything that I send them even if some of the other sites don't take them all.

i think based on your statement fotographer and a handful others, it's quite obvious SOME of us are giving images that FT likes .  i have to be honest that FT is the one site along with IS that i only started contributing, therefore making less money than say DT , StockXpert , BigStock.  also, FT takes almost close to 100% of my new works while initially rejecting most of my work in my early days when i simply uploaded the same images to DT BigStock and StockXpert.    the same with IS which i think is pretty much in line with FT in their preference of certain images.

perharps this disparity is the cause of why so many love to hate FT. but i think it's wonderful because it enables me to have a bit of a niche with FT which i cannot with DT and BigStock .
i sell a lot more with DT but needless to say, i have a lot more with them too.

as for consistently, FT is consistent for sure . they will take a certain type of images
and for most times, their rejection reasons are vague with that disposition code button that the reviewers no doubt push to spew out that rejections list that we cannot figure out which they meant.

thankfully i don't get many of that.  but i can relate to the frustrations of getting a list of one or all of the above rejection email.
for what it's worth, IS has just started to approve more of my work, ...
and when they don't, the reviewer took the time to actually explain and point out to me why they don't like it.  so i simply corrected it, and resubmit. which they approve rather quickly.

but then again, like FT, i have sent far less to them because they also initially found more faults with my work.   i don't take this as an insult, but more so, that they don't like my work...
so i just give other sites like Alamy, DT, most of it and give them and FT far less.

it's so much simpler this way, rather than try to convince yourself that they are wrong to reject so much of your work.  ego is a double edged sword... at worst,
at best, it wastes  a lot of energy solving nothing.

ok, that's all from my buddha muse rofl... i need a sinful mug of Guinness now

I can so relate to this.  Many of my best sellers that carry on selling and selling would never be approved today. Those of us that got in early have a huge advantage over the newbies.

. One of my best selling shots on there are three cans of vegetables....it's a horrible picture...some of the details of the brands are still on the cans. Today there would be no way they would approve it...(believe me I have tryed with just about everything photoshoped out.) But it sells over and over again.

My thoughts exactly! It's too risky.

And this is the very reason why I reject exclusivity at one single site. They might review their review standards, and all of a sudden you will have most or your images rejected and can do nothing about it.

Regards,
Oliver

Quote from: Allsa on January 09, 2010, 15:40

My thoughts exactly! It's too risky.

Quote from: olikli on November 18, 2009, 14:45

And this is the very reason why I reject exclusivity at one single site. They might review their review standards, and all of a sudden you will have most or your images rejected and can do nothing about it.

Regards,
Oliver

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i haven't been with micro stock long enough . but maybe the oldies here can help with this question.

in my observation, i know that SS and IS are completely contrary to each other. ie. IS high ratio approved contributors fail most with SS and vice versa due to post processing preference of either site.  also, lately IS and FT seem to be sharing one brain. iow, what IS approves FT does and vice versa. 
maybe their reviewers are identical, except it may not be so since i thought that IS exclusives review indies submissions; unless these same IS exclusives are moonlighting as FT reviewers.
not another conspiracy theory, just too many coincidences to ignore. coincidences that work for me to get my approval rate consistent with FT and IS.

but i wonder if the installation of ex IS CEOs to FT has anything to do with this sudden change in review behaviour.

That's not the case with me because most of the same photos that are uploaded to fotolia get rejected whereas they are accepted in istock.