List of people not uploading to Fotolia anymore

a.k.a.-tom

« Reply #50 on: June 04, 2008, 19:08 »

beat ya all! I stopped uploading there well over a year ago.... deleted all but one pic. got one picture there. One.

my problem was keeping my credits safe... they kept disappearing.... I was never given an explanation. I'll never go back to FT.

Sadly, I have to agree with MIZ. I admire all your stand and your action, but I am afraid it won't matter squat to FT. They have the whole world of photogs to suck in. For every one of us that backs out, there are 3 newbies to take our place. MIZ is correct, you better be prepared to follow thru, cause............. you'll probably have to.

You can add my name, but I'm sure they really give a rat's butt about my one pic... long live the revolution!! Cool

=tom


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CofkoCof

« Reply #51 on: June 04, 2008, 19:13 »

Quote from: rjmiz on June 04, 2008, 17:05

Yes I know. But thats been that way for years now.
But FT...."no wait" "almost instant reviews" will be a novelty for me! Yippie!

Cranky MIZ

Instant "Type of photo rejections" for me, Yippie,... Hm Roll Eyes


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4seasons

« Reply #52 on: June 04, 2008, 19:15 »

- the lowest comissions in the industry for subs
- no affiliate payments
- subs sales do not count towards the ranking
- no option to opt out from the sub
- search system perverted
- blocking, deleting and baning from forum for free speach

it's Fotolia today.

I personally feel fooled and cheated and my works are stolen by Fotolia: when I registered and begin upload a few years ago, they promised and agreed to pay one price per image, but today they pay me cents and I can't opt out subscription model. There are two ways- to stay (with or without new uploads) and enjoy some pennies, or quit and delete account.

I have almost 3000 images there and likely will not upload my new images. I will not act sharply but if things will go like that and FT will keep fooling us I'll enjoy all these photogs who are striking against this bullcrap. Maybe there are not so many who are rising the voice but in unity is power. Of course, even tens or hundreds portfolios who could be deleted, FT will not feel a big difference as there are hundreds and thousands new authors who don't care about payments. All these "Helo, I'm new here and this is my hobby" will upload thousands new images for pennies. But nevertheless, if old wolfs, top distributors will leave microstock (not FT only, but microstock in general), I think agencies will see some tumble.

Anyway, I'm concentrating on macro. Today must upload my new batch to Alamy... Wink


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a.k.a.-tom

« Reply #53 on: June 04, 2008, 19:26 »

Quote from: 4seasons on June 04, 2008, 19:15

Anyway, I'm concentrating on macro. Today must upload my new batch to Alamy... Wink

My thoughts exactly. Although I will continue to load to SS & IS. I have now essentially stopped loading to all my other micros. The ROI just isn't there anymore for me personally.


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PaulieWalnuts

« Reply #54 on: June 04, 2008, 20:18 »

Right there with ya Tom. I'm only uploading to IS and SS and spending the extra time on RM. The rest of the micros just aren't worth the time anymore.

While SS has some nice sales, I upload more, the sales briefly spike, and then drop back to the same ole amount. Not a good trend.


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etudiante_rapide

« Reply #55 on: June 04, 2008, 21:13 »

goodness gracious!! Shocked

you ppl are an angry mob Lips sealed

i'm sitting on the fence, if you don't mind me! Wink


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madelaide

Premium Member

« Reply #56 on: June 04, 2008, 21:19 »

I'm not uploading to micros at the moment, concentrating on my travel images elsewhere, but I will wait to see what happens in FT before I resume uploading there. Their implementation of subscription was a complete disappointment.

Regards,
Adelaide


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PaulieWalnuts

« Reply #57 on: June 04, 2008, 21:33 »

Quote from: etudiante_rapide on June 04, 2008, 21:13

goodness gracious!! Shocked

you ppl are an angry mob Lips sealed

i'm sitting on the fence, if you don't mind me! Wink

I'm not angry at all. I just react to the changes. I look at earnings, effort, policies, and frustrations that then determine if it's worth the time. IS and SS have the best overall combination of those things and also happen to have the best earnings for me. Pretty straightforward.


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rjmiz

« Reply #58 on: June 04, 2008, 21:46 »

Lemme try and make some sense of this all.

Suppose I list my favorite ice cream flavors in the order I like them

1 Chocolate
2 Coffee
3 Strawberry
4 Butter Pecan
5 Cherry Vanilla
6 Frog Flavor

So if I go into a store to purchase lets say chocolate and they have NONE of my favorite flavors
Should I leave the store without ANY ice cream at all if all they have is say Vanilla, Black Cherry, or Peanutbutter Swirl?

Me? OH No.....I came for ice cream, and I ain't leaving the store empty handed.
So what in essence I hear you all saying is because they don't have your flavor, you ain't having no ice cream at all.

Cranky MIZ


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yuliang11

« Reply #59 on: June 04, 2008, 22:08 »

count me in. i'm getting bored of those ridiculous rejections. i thought istock is the worst ,but at least i'm getting good money from istock Embarrassed


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vphoto

« Reply #60 on: June 04, 2008, 22:27 »

I am not uploading to any site almost for a month. If were to punish a site, one of first would be FT. But, hey, it seems we have a choice. FT is not a number one site for most of us. My feeling they are wrong.


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PaulieWalnuts

« Reply #61 on: June 04, 2008, 23:59 »

Quote from: rjmiz on June 04, 2008, 21:46

Am I the only one who thinks this makes no sense?


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rjmiz

« Reply #62 on: June 05, 2008, 00:12 »

...just shut up and eat your ice cream

Cranky MIZ


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thomasw

« Reply #63 on: June 05, 2008, 00:52 »

MMMMMMMMM Bitternut Icecream Grin


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Lizard

« Reply #64 on: June 05, 2008, 02:17 »

Quote from: rjmiz on June 04, 2008, 21:46

Ill try to reply to that in your own style...

I suppose if few years old crap tasted ice cream is all they got to offer , you would be taking that one.

Well , bon appetit mr Miz and good luck , hope you wont catch diarrhea.


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Lizard

« Reply #65 on: June 05, 2008, 03:05 »

Here is the list , I didn't know some of your Fotolia user names so I used your nicknames here , and some of you may want to change that. Maybe I missed someone, so he wants to add his name , and if someone wants out of the list , just copy the list without his name.

So those of you that will not upload to Fotolia because of their moves , just copy the list , sign at the bottom with your Fotolia user name and number of images that Fotolia represents. You can put a link to this topic on other on other forums too.

Here is the current list , a those are the owners of 32 259 images on Fotolia:

Lizard - 3904 images
cuneytselcuk - 315 files
grp_photo - 1861 files
sharpshot - 1948
frankmedrano - 497
skvoor 1873
marcopolo 2104
Vonkara - 165
Marinini - 305
jsnover - 1522
Mellimage - 386
djp68 - 259
besietenueve - 507
Joe Gough's - 1529
jwblinn - 210
photoshow - 4448
Marianne - 818
ajn - 832
keeweeboy - 1496
vtupinamba - 3572
nickp37 - 829
dirkr - 364
cphoto - 600
RT - 1389
Karimala - 1246


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michealo

« Reply #66 on: June 05, 2008, 04:23 »

I'm hoping everyone stops, then my images will be the only new ones ....


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grp_photo

« Reply #67 on: June 05, 2008, 04:35 »

Quote from: michealo on June 05, 2008, 04:23

I'm hoping everyone stops, then my images will be the only new ones ....

poor boy!


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Allsa

« Reply #68 on: June 05, 2008, 09:19 »

Add my name to the list - I'm AlienCat (Linda Bucklin) at Fotolia. I have 513 images with them, mostly illustrations. Things starting turning sour at Fotolia with the recent big increase in (type of photo) senseless rejections. With this subscription thing and the way they are handling it, I'm shocked at how far downhill things have gone there. I have been with them since close to the beginning, they used to be very responsive to contributors, and I felt valued there. What Happened?


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pixelbrat

« Reply #69 on: June 05, 2008, 09:49 »

I haven't uploaded to FT in a while but I have no intention of doing so after this subscription fiasco. I do plan on hanging around a bit to see if they will come to their senses but if not, and if I see a significant number of sub sales coming in, then I'm pulling my portfolio. Any of you who plan on staying around are welcome to any sales I'll be missing. At least I'll be able to sleep at night. It's not all about money when it's something you feel strongly about. That's just my opinion.

Oh, and on another note, when I found Chad's post on the Yahoo micropayment group showing that quote of his I just about lost my lunch. What a turncoat. In case you guys missed his full post that includes his quote you can see it here if you have a Yahoo account:

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/micropayment/message/18515

Lizard - 3904 images
cuneytselcuk - 315 files
grp_photo - 1861 files
sharpshot - 1948
frankmedrano - 497
skvoor 1873
marcopolo 2104
Vonkara - 165
Marinini - 305
jsnover - 1522
Mellimage - 386
djp68 - 259
besietenueve - 507
Joe Gough's - 1529
jwblinn - 210
photoshow - 4448
Marianne - 818
ajn - 832
keeweeboy - 1496
vtupinamba - 3572
nickp37 - 829
dirkr - 364
cphoto - 600
RT - 1389
Karimala - 1246
pixelbrat - 355


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rene

« Reply #70 on: June 05, 2008, 10:31 »

Lizard - 3904 images
cuneytselcuk - 315 files
grp_photo - 1861 files
sharpshot - 1948
frankmedrano - 497
skvoor 1873
marcopolo 2104
Vonkara - 165
Marinini - 305
jsnover - 1522
Mellimage - 386
djp68 - 259
besietenueve - 507
Joe Gough's - 1529
jwblinn - 210
photoshow - 4448
Marianne - 818
ajn - 832
keeweeboy - 1496
vtupinamba - 3572
nickp37 - 829
dirkr - 364
cphoto - 600
RT - 1389
Karimala - 1246
pixelbrat - 355
rene - 820


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tdoes

« Reply #71 on: June 05, 2008, 10:39 »

Even though my downloads there are consistent (especially with the large files!), I am gonna stop uploading new images there as well. I do understand how Subscription Plans are attractive to companies that have a need for vast quanities of images to download but I don't like Fotolia's Subscription policy. I'll see how this plays out before I upload anymore!


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fotoKmyst

« Reply #72 on: June 05, 2008, 11:11 »

Quote from: PaulieWalnuts on June 04, 2008, 23:59

Quote from: rjmiz on June 04, 2008, 21:46

Lemme try and make some sense of this all.

Suppose I list my favorite ice cream flavors in the order...

So if I go into a store to ...
Should I leave the store without ANY ice cream..
Me? OH No.....I came for ice cream, and I ain't leaving the store empty handed.
So what in essence I hear you all saying is because they don't have your flavor, you ain't having no ice cream at all.

Cranky MIZ

Am I the only one who thinks this makes no sense?

no, you're not PaulieWalnuts.
i get the feeling that Miz
is probably working for FL. or worse, maybe a reviewer for FL !
Yikes! Grin

P.S.
MIZ ,hope your hidden stock of "heavy sauce" hasn't run out yet .. go easy , bottoms UP!!! Grin

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Peter

« Reply #73 on: June 05, 2008, 11:28 »

You are all funny. Subs are not a problem at all, in my opinion. The search engine is.

Fotolia will never sell subs like SS, so subs sales will be marginal. Perhaps few per week. I can live with that. That would not be a great loss in my income. (i recon that 5% of my total sales would be subs). I saw it on other agencies. I cant remember when I sold subs. sale on DT. Credit sales are main thing.

The real problem is screwed up search engine, whis is not related to keyword orded and image rating any more. That is the problem. For example, for word "money" I had about 50 images at 5 first pages. Now I have 0 images on first 5 pages. (and for most of other words also). Now my images are being placed on page 68, or so...

That is the bigger problem, since they changed search engine, my sales dropped 60%, and they are still low. Subs sales are not bothering me at all, because I know I wont be selling them in large numbers, so there is not real loss.