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« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2018, 10:18 »
+6
Some genuine "exciting news"  ;D Thank you

« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2018, 10:20 »
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WHAT!!!  ???

An agency actually raising royalties!  :o

I don't believe it  ;D

« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2018, 10:22 »
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Great news!

Microstock Man

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« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2018, 10:23 »
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Woah, you mean an actual rate increase with no hidden catches?

Brilliant, thanks Adobe Stock!

« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2018, 10:30 »
+4
Brilliant!
Many thanks to Adobe, that's really good news!

« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2018, 10:36 »
+4
Thank you!
You became my favorite agency! :)

H2O

« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2018, 10:37 »
+7
Excellent news, lets see some of the other Agencies follow their lead. ;D :D

« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2018, 10:38 »
+4
Absolutely brilliant
Thanks Adobe / Fotolia  ;D

« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2018, 10:44 »
+2
I love Adobe. Truly.

« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2018, 10:46 »
+3
Checks date, not april 1st!  :o
Thanks Adobe

« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2018, 10:50 »
+10
Finally moving in the right direction. It is great news!

« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2018, 10:54 »
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not REALLY good news ... you take away all the good credit sales - and give us back a few cents for minimum subscriptions ... shame on you!

« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2018, 11:34 »
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not REALLY good news ... you take away all the good credit sales - and give us back a few cents for minimum subscriptions ... shame on you!
Who said anything about removing credit sales ?

« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2018, 11:47 »
+8
Wow.  Great news!

All $.38 minimums going by now.  Nice.
« Last Edit: September 24, 2018, 12:01 by Sean Locke Photography »

« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2018, 12:32 »
+2
Again Adobe Stock, big thank you! We love you  8)

msg2018

« Reply #16 on: September 24, 2018, 12:37 »
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These are good news once in a while, thanks Fotolia!

But there's an error in this conversion table:
1 credit = 1 USD = 1 EUR = 0.75 GBP = 4 PLN = 7,10 SEK = 150 JPY = 1,100 KRW.

It should be 1 EUR = 0.90 GBP. And it can only get worse if/when brexit actually happens.
« Last Edit: September 24, 2018, 13:44 by msg2018 »

« Reply #17 on: September 24, 2018, 12:50 »
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This are good news once in a while, thanks Fotolia!

But there's an error in this conversion table:
1 credit = 1 USD = 1 EUR = 0.75 GBP = 4 PLN = 7,10 SEK = 150 JPY = 1,100 KRW.

It should be 1 EUR = 0.90 GBP. And it can only get worse if/when brexit actually happens.

It won't matter much when they terminate Fotolia and with it the credit system.

msg2018

« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2018, 12:58 »
+2
It won't matter much when they terminate Fotolia and with it the credit system.

I am afraid you may be right.

Everything is more and more USA-centric after the Adobe acquisition, including sales (based on subjects). Fotolia was stronger in Europe before.

« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2018, 13:00 »
+2
TNX Mat, for sweet news  ;)

BTW, Today is a great day, with a lot sold files, as well.

GO GO GO FT   :)

« Reply #20 on: September 24, 2018, 14:29 »
0
Great news! :)

fotorob

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« Reply #21 on: September 25, 2018, 01:23 »
0
Lev Dolgachov asked on my Facebook post about the minimum commissions for the diamond rank (>1.000.000 downloads).
These stay the same at 0,40$, according to Adobe member Kirsten Harris:
https://www.facebook.com/fotoproduzent/posts/10156713812442959?comment_id=10156714138687959&reply_comment_id=10156714155022959


However, so far only one contributor (Monkey Business) reached that ranking.

« Reply #22 on: September 25, 2018, 02:02 »
+3
Someone please wake me, I can not believe it  ;D

« Reply #23 on: September 25, 2018, 02:18 »
+1
great way to go adobestock

that's the reason I will upload my work to you first and to others days later (even tho that's not very important)

going from dollarphotoclub few years ago to this is great turn around for you as agency and us your contributors.




« Reply #24 on: September 25, 2018, 03:32 »
+1
Nice move

« Reply #25 on: September 25, 2018, 04:40 »
+2
The increase is welcome, thanks. BUT, I am Sapphire and I am getting the same royalty as Gold. Shouldn't higher rank mean a higher royalty?

« Reply #26 on: September 25, 2018, 09:34 »
+1
Thats great. Now focus back on European market.

« Reply #27 on: September 25, 2018, 09:50 »
+1
Nice surprise! Thank you.

« Reply #28 on: September 25, 2018, 10:37 »
+1
wow, nice surprise

« Reply #29 on: September 25, 2018, 11:37 »
+4
Matching Shutterstock subs royalties is another great move by Adobe, after granting us one year of free cloud subscription!

Nice to see those 38 cents rolling!

Next step is to match SS sales volume and, why not, take over #1 position.
« Last Edit: September 25, 2018, 11:40 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #30 on: September 25, 2018, 12:53 »
+2
Another positive move from Adobe. 

ps:  still wishing they would take editorial travel.. 

« Reply #31 on: September 25, 2018, 13:00 »
+2
Matching Shutterstock subs royalties is another great move by Adobe, after granting us one year of free cloud subscription!

Nice to see those 38 cents rolling!

Next step is to match SS sales volume and, why not, take over #1 position.

Looks to me like they are working on that. One way to speed up the process might be to offer more attractive exclusive content terms for contributors. I for one would take advantage of that by only uploading my best work to AS while spreading the leftovers around to the others. An interesting way AS could build a great library and differentiate themselves even further. As it stands though their terms aren't incentive enough to give up the aggregate.

« Reply #32 on: September 25, 2018, 13:23 »
0
Oh my goodness!  Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!

nobody

« Reply #33 on: September 25, 2018, 15:04 »
+2
wonder if Shutter will jump in with a fat pay raise now  8)

Uncle Pete

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« Reply #34 on: September 25, 2018, 15:10 »
+4
wonder if Shutter will jump in with a fat pay raise now  8)

If AS starts taking editorial, I'll have no use for any other agencies except SS and AS.

Yes, wouldn't it be nice if this forces SS to up the ante for our work. And yes, if AS offered an exclusive program, by image like FT did, I'd go for that too. Right now that is missing from the AS site but was still allowed on FT.

This is when competition helps us for a change, instead of driving prices and values down. Good to see that AS also holds up the review standards, and rejects spam, junk and duplicates. Seems like Adobe has some respect for artists, instead of treating us like trash. I like them better every day.  8)

« Reply #35 on: September 25, 2018, 15:11 »
+2
wonder if Shutter will jump in with a fat pay raise now  8)

They can't afford it.

« Reply #36 on: September 25, 2018, 15:31 »
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wonder if Shutter will jump in with a fat pay raise now  8)

They can't afford it.
They are sitting on a pile of cash with a million new images a week they don't need to. I would imagine there are very few serious players in Microstock who don't upload to them.....despite how much they complain about them.

nobody

« Reply #37 on: September 25, 2018, 16:00 »
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wonder if Shutter will jump in with a fat pay raise now  8)

They can't afford it.

When even the Janitor makes over $100,000 at their New York City office they cannot afford to give any artists a raise for sure  :-\

ShadySue

« Reply #38 on: September 25, 2018, 16:03 »
+2
wonder if Shutter will jump in with a fat pay raise now  8)
They held prices down when their only serious rival at the time, iS, was trying to raise theirs.

« Reply #39 on: September 25, 2018, 17:45 »
+2
wSup Adobe! I saw what you did there, tryna to be the best? ;D

« Reply #40 on: September 26, 2018, 02:06 »
+3
Setting a good example to the rest of the industry!!!

Hopefully this will become something that happens every now and again to help contributors offset the effects of inflation.

« Reply #41 on: September 26, 2018, 04:19 »
0
thank you...

« Reply #42 on: September 26, 2018, 05:24 »
0
I love Adobe! my video and photo sales are on a steady increase in sales! My favorite agency

« Reply #43 on: September 26, 2018, 06:23 »
0
Setting a good example to the rest of the industry!!!

Hopefully this will become something that happens every now and again to help contributors offset the effects of inflation.
Its good but matching the market leader is not really "setting an example"....lets not get carried away ;-0.

nobody

« Reply #44 on: September 26, 2018, 07:16 »
0
forgot to put in my income on the survey thus added yesterday for August. Notice the slight increase on AdobeStock now. Makes me wonder if everyone would do the survey that maybe AdobeStock would be in first place?

« Reply #45 on: September 26, 2018, 07:40 »
+2
forgot to put in my income on the survey thus added yesterday for August. Notice the slight increase on AdobeStock now. Makes me wonder if everyone would do the survey that maybe AdobeStock would be in first place?
For me SS is still no 1 but steady at best Adobe has been rising and it seems IS may be starting to as well.....but the gap remains quite large (about 1/2). I think it would take time for adobe to catch them but it may happen.

« Reply #46 on: September 26, 2018, 08:29 »
0
I just got a download at 25c?

« Reply #47 on: September 26, 2018, 08:52 »
+4
Great stuff Mat, Adobe and Alamy give me hope for the industry.

Now if you could just accept regular editorial... ;)

« Reply #48 on: September 26, 2018, 08:54 »
0
Is this increase for photos or video too?

Adobe is doing things well. That move to give us a free year of Adobe cloud. Outstanding!
Thanks and great work.

« Reply #49 on: September 26, 2018, 09:12 »
+10
I had noticed that the numbers for subs had increased but didn't know the reason - thanks for the explanation.  The last time I remember an agency raising rates to contributors without decreasing them somewhere else was - never!  Makes me want to start uploading again.  FT/Adobe is the only agency actually increasing from year to year so keep up the good work!  If you start accepting regular editorial you can easily overtake SS to become number one.

« Reply #50 on: September 26, 2018, 09:17 »
0
The increase is welcome, thanks. BUT, I am Sapphire and I am getting the same royalty as Gold. Shouldn't higher rank mean a higher royalty?

Not if you look at the new as, two levels Silver and below 9999, or Gold and above 10,000 anybody who can get 1000 downloads is in the 1st level. Everybody above 10,000 is the same now.

« Reply #51 on: September 26, 2018, 13:44 »
+2
Great news.  Thanks Mat!!

« Reply #52 on: September 26, 2018, 13:56 »
+1
Excellent!

« Reply #53 on: September 26, 2018, 14:07 »
+1
Wow, very nice!  :) :) :) :) :)

« Reply #54 on: September 27, 2018, 12:31 »
+1
I see picture of a cute kitten
Adobe raises commissions
... same smile on my face :)

Thank you Adobe!


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« Reply #55 on: September 27, 2018, 13:29 »
+1
Excellent news, lets see some of the other Agencies follow their lead. ;D :D

Exactly what I thought while reading this news!!!

now, accept the editorial images and it's going to be almost perfect ...
« Last Edit: September 27, 2018, 13:35 by christiano »

« Reply #56 on: September 27, 2018, 15:04 »
0
Target acquired.

« Reply #57 on: September 27, 2018, 18:02 »
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For the life of me I can't find the commission rates for exclusive contributors for credit sales on the fotolia site. What am I missing?

« Reply #58 on: September 27, 2018, 18:34 »
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For the life of me I can't find the commission rates for exclusive contributors for credit sales on the fotolia site. What am I missing?

https://en.fotolia.com/Info/Contributors/Royalties

« Reply #59 on: September 27, 2018, 18:38 »
0
For the life of me I can't find the commission rates for exclusive contributors for credit sales on the fotolia site. What am I missing?

https://en.fotolia.com/Info/Contributors/Royalties

Thanks. Just hope that's still valid. The new commission table on adobe stock doesn't mention exclusivity at all...

« Reply #60 on: September 27, 2018, 18:42 »
+1
For the life of me I can't find the commission rates for exclusive contributors for credit sales on the fotolia site. What am I missing?

https://en.fotolia.com/Info/Contributors/Royalties

Thanks. Just hope that's still valid. The new commission table on adobe stock doesn't mention exclusivity at all...

Adobe don't do exclusivity and you can't make a new account on Fotolia so in effect it's a relic of the past.

« Reply #61 on: September 27, 2018, 18:49 »
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I know. But on the page that was linked in the notification email, they have a table specifically about credit sales on fotolia, stating only: "Royalty rates are based on contributors ranks. The higher the rank, the higher the contributor's percentage." Nothing about exclusivity.

https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/royalty-details.html?trackingid=791Y6R5P&mv=email&as_channel=email&as_campclass=nonbrand&as_camptype=acquisition&as_audience=users&as_source=adobe

« Reply #62 on: September 27, 2018, 18:57 »
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I know. But on the page that was linked in the notification email, they have a table specifically about credit sales on fotolia, stating only: "Royalty rates are based on contributors ranks. The higher the rank, the higher the contributor's percentage." Nothing about exclusivity.

https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/royalty-details.html?trackingid=791Y6R5P&mv=email&as_channel=email&as_campclass=nonbrand&as_camptype=acquisition&as_audience=users&as_source=adobe

That's just the good news page, we havn't got the bad news page yet, except maybe by omission.

« Reply #63 on: September 27, 2018, 19:02 »
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My point exactly. Sort of the kind of thing you would hope to be informed about explicitly and officially. If the assumption's right, that is, of course.

« Reply #64 on: September 27, 2018, 22:34 »
+1
My point exactly. Sort of the kind of thing you would hope to be informed about explicitly and officially. If the assumption's right, that is, of course.

Nothing has changed regarding exclusive contributor commission rates based on Fotolia credit based sales. This change only impacts the minimum commission amount on subscription sales.

Thanks,

-Mat

« Reply #65 on: September 27, 2018, 23:04 »
0
Thanks a lot for the clarification!

« Reply #66 on: September 28, 2018, 03:31 »
0
Where is the button 'Great post'? Help me!  :'(

« Reply #67 on: September 28, 2018, 03:51 »
+2
Thanks Adobe.

The only thing missing is really editorial use only submission possibility.

I mean we have the possibility to submit to Adobe directly from Adobe Bridge or Lightroom. Many photographers that use lightroom or photoshop are editorial shooters. It is pitty that it cant be submitted to Adobe Stock.

Next to this almost all other agencies including the small ones have the editorial use only option.

Please Adobe add this future. I am sure a lot of photographers are waiting for this. Millions of photos available on other agencies missing in Adobe ;).

Thanks.

Mirco

ShadySue

« Reply #68 on: September 28, 2018, 04:31 »
+1
The only thing missing is really editorial use only submission possibility.

Please Adobe add this future. I am sure a lot of photographers are waiting for this. Millions of photos available on other agencies missing in Adobe ;).

Mirco
Why so keen to sell for so very little on Adobe when you can (and I know that you do) sell editorials for more on e.g. Alamy, and all micros have done is take editorial sales away from, and force prices down on, there? If the buyers want pics which are not on the micros, they might consider paying a fair price elsewhere.

« Reply #69 on: September 28, 2018, 05:06 »
+1
The only thing missing is really editorial use only submission possibility.

Please Adobe add this future. I am sure a lot of photographers are waiting for this. Millions of photos available on other agencies missing in Adobe ;).

Mirco
Why so keen to sell for so very little on Adobe when you can (and I know that you do) sell editorials for more on e.g. Alamy, and all micros have done is take editorial sales away from, and force prices down on, there? If the buyers want pics which are not on the micros, they might consider paying a fair price elsewhere.

I cant do it by my own. And anyway.... did you took a look at the large editorial offer only on SS. It is to late. Next to that A seems really to be UK related. Look at their "what to shoot" blogs. UK UK UK UK.

Anyway editorials are doing in my case much better on SS then Alamy. I look at the end amount regardless the price per image.

Anyway this thread is about Adobe. And all other micros have already editorial for long time. I would love to see editorials on Adobe as many others do.

« Reply #70 on: September 28, 2018, 05:25 »
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But lets not discuss here if it is better to submit to Alamy or micro. This topic is all about Adobe and if someone is wishing Editorial here he will have a own reason.

Mirco

« Reply #71 on: September 28, 2018, 05:31 »
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The only thing missing is really editorial use only submission possibility.

Please Adobe add this future. I am sure a lot of photographers are waiting for this. Millions of photos available on other agencies missing in Adobe ;).

Mirco
Why so keen to sell for so very little on Adobe when you can (and I know that you do) sell editorials for more on e.g. Alamy, and all micros have done is take editorial sales away from, and force prices down on, there? If the buyers want pics which are not on the micros, they might consider paying a fair price elsewhere.
I think that horse has bolted but its a fair point..unless Adobe going for editorial increases the overall demand its just moving the deckchairs....

« Reply #72 on: September 28, 2018, 05:42 »
+1
Most of my editorials sold on Alamy are on average 5$ gross. And most are also distributor sales, so I get 30% of 5$. That's not so much more than on, for example SS. I sell more editorials on SS than on alamy, so in the end, I get more from SS.

« Reply #73 on: September 28, 2018, 07:51 »
0
-wrong place-
« Last Edit: September 30, 2018, 19:46 by Open_ »

« Reply #74 on: September 28, 2018, 08:59 »
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wonder if Shutter will jump in with a fat pay raise now  8)

If AS starts taking editorial, I'll have no use for any other agencies except SS and AS.


I am waiting for this too. Right now exclusive in Photo with Getty and non exclusive with video (did not make the same mistake with video I did with photography long ago). If Adobe takes editorial someday I might seriously say goodbye to the crown and even keep contributing to Istock/Getty whicjh I already don't do in video because of the low royalties. Great move Adobe :-)

« Reply #75 on: September 28, 2018, 09:22 »
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Hi Everyone,

This morning we updated the minimum commission structure. You can view details at this link: https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/royalty-details.html

The breakdown detailing the changes can be seen in this chart. Let me know if you have any questions.

-Mat Hayward

Hi Mat,

this is great news and a step in the right direction!

It would be even better though if the "minimum payment" would be really the mininum (for all sales). At the moment everyone below Emerald still gets less than the "minimum" for XS credit sales at Fotolia. Or am I mistaken?

« Reply #76 on: September 28, 2018, 22:55 »
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Lev Dolgachov asked on my Facebook post about the minimum commissions for the diamond rank (>1.000.000 downloads).
These stay the same at 0,40$, according to Adobe member Kirsten Harris:
https://www.facebook.com/fotoproduzent/posts/10156713812442959?comment_id=10156714138687959&reply_comment_id=10156714155022959


However, so far only one contributor (Monkey Business) reached that ranking.

Are you saying that professional people still use Facebook? 🤔

« Reply #77 on: September 29, 2018, 09:15 »
+1
I keep seeing this headline and thinking I've fallen  into a time-warp and it's 2006 all over again

« Reply #78 on: September 29, 2018, 15:00 »
+1
Hi Everyone,

This morning we updated the minimum commission structure. You can view details at this link: https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/royalty-details.html

The breakdown detailing the changes can be seen in this chart. Let me know if you have any questions.

-Mat Hayward

Thanks Mat!

« Reply #79 on: September 29, 2018, 15:26 »
+1
These are great news alright.
But what about us - the video contributors?
We have our flat rate without any increase - at least not a feasible one.
The numbers of downloads on this rank system are WAY off for video.
Why can't we have our own ranking system?
 I have hundreds of downloads a year - so only a decade or so to the next level. Not too bad :(

Adobe? Anyone?



« Reply #80 on: September 30, 2018, 07:17 »
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In the light of Commission Increase shall I start uploading my video clips to Adobe's site instead of continuing with Fotolia? I already have 1700 clips on Fotolia.
Please advise.

« Reply #81 on: September 30, 2018, 10:39 »
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In the light of Commission Increase shall I start uploading my video clips to Adobe's site instead of continuing with Fotolia? I already have 1700 clips on Fotolia.
Please advise.

It makes no difference, all uploads are sold on both sites.

« Reply #82 on: September 30, 2018, 12:33 »
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It looks like there is a difference in commissions, like for HD clip Adobe pays $4 more than Fotolia for Bronze rank.
« Last Edit: September 30, 2018, 12:43 by opal »

« Reply #83 on: September 30, 2018, 13:06 »
+2
It looks like there is a difference in commissions, like for HD clip Adobe pays $4 more than Fotolia for Bronze rank.

Those are differences beyond your control unless you can influence which site a buyers purchases your work from.  The site you upload to makes no difference as all uploads are sold on both sites regardless.

« Reply #84 on: September 30, 2018, 13:23 »
0
Good stuff, does this now match up to SS prices or does it exceed them

« Reply #85 on: September 30, 2018, 13:41 »
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Good stuff, does this now match up to SS prices or does it exceed them

Depending on which tier you are on you may get more on one site than the other, but in general they match up.

« Reply #86 on: October 02, 2018, 04:29 »
0
So is there any reason that I am still seeing some sales @ 25c?

Is there an option in there somewhere that only pays this or is it an error?

Thanks

« Reply #87 on: October 02, 2018, 05:20 »
0
So is there any reason that I am still seeing some sales @ 25c?

Is there an option in there somewhere that only pays this or is it an error?

Thanks

If your rank is Silver, this is a XS (1 credit) sale.
https://eu.fotolia.com/Info/Contributors/Royalties

« Reply #88 on: October 02, 2018, 07:05 »
0
So is there any reason that I am still seeing some sales @ 25c?

Is there an option in there somewhere that only pays this or is it an error?

Thanks



Read this thread:


http://www.microstockgroup.com/fotolia-com/lowest-commission-on-adobe-now-25-cents/msg516777/#msg516777

« Reply #89 on: October 02, 2018, 07:39 »
0
I sell editorial images on SS much better than on Alamy. But where do I find my ranking on the Fotolia website or Adobe website? I get as little as 0.25cents for a download.

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #90 on: October 02, 2018, 08:17 »
0
So is there any reason that I am still seeing some sales @ 25c?

Is there an option in there somewhere that only pays this or is it an error?

Thanks

If your rank is Silver, this is a XS (1 credit) sale.
https://eu.fotolia.com/Info/Contributors/Royalties

Or https://us.fotolia.com/Info/Contributors/Royalties  :)

« Reply #91 on: October 02, 2018, 08:44 »
+2
So is there any reason that I am still seeing some sales @ 25c?

Is there an option in there somewhere that only pays this or is it an error?

Thanks



Read this thread:


http://www.microstockgroup.com/fotolia-com/lowest-commission-on-adobe-now-25-cents/msg516777/#msg516777


Ah, OK - thanks, I understand now.

I guess I found the opening statement and chart on this thread to be a little misleading. It just states that the minimum for Silver contributors is to be 36c from 24th September, following an update to the 'minimum commission structure'. It doesn't make it entirely clear that this minimum doesn't apply to all sales. Fortunately, those 25c sales are only occasional.

I'm glad of the pay rise, so I'm not complaining, just a little surprised that it hasn't been applied across the board.

Gcarter08

  • Diversity Stock Photographer
« Reply #92 on: October 04, 2018, 11:59 »
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Will this impact adobe premium?

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« Reply #93 on: October 04, 2018, 12:31 »
0
Will this impact adobe premium?

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No, Premium content has a different price structure.

-Mat


 

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