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Shelma1

« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2017, 12:27 »
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Thank you for listening and making the process easier.

« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2017, 12:40 »
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I was waiting for this feature, I have been one of those having asked for it a while ago.
So it is a good new!
But as I usually upload my photos using the ftp, in a first time, then I put my keywords in order only once the photos have been reviewed (I don't want to lose my time to order the keywords of images that could be rejected), and as in the portfolio page this new feature does not exist (I wonder why Adobe did this "half" work), it is almost useless for me, or I will have to change my workflow.

A question: if I order my keywords for an image and then I copy this keywords to paste them in another image, will they keep the order?
« Last Edit: December 07, 2017, 12:48 by Chichikov »

« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2017, 12:51 »
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« Last Edit: December 07, 2017, 13:05 by Chichikov »

« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2017, 13:11 »
+1
I was waiting for this feature, I have been one of those having asked for it a while ago.
So it is a good new!
But as I usually upload my photos using the ftp, in a first time, then I put my keywords in order only once the photos have been reviewed (I don't want to lose my time to order the keywords of images that could be rejected), and as in the portfolio page this new feature does not exist (I wonder why Adobe did this "half" work), it is almost useless for me, or I will have to change my workflow.

A question: if I order my keywords for an image and then I copy this keywords to paste them in another image, will they keep the order?

Yes, the order you add the keywords should stay in the order you add them. I don't recommend you resort your keywords after review.

-Mat

« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2017, 13:32 »
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I was waiting for this feature, I have been one of those having asked for it a while ago.
So it is a good new!
But as I usually upload my photos using the ftp, in a first time, then I put my keywords in order only once the photos have been reviewed (I don't want to lose my time to order the keywords of images that could be rejected), and as in the portfolio page this new feature does not exist (I wonder why Adobe did this "half" work), it is almost useless for me, or I will have to change my workflow.

A question: if I order my keywords for an image and then I copy this keywords to paste them in another image, will they keep the order?

Yes, the order you add the keywords should stay in the order you add them. I don't recommend you resort your keywords after review.

-Mat

Thank you Mat.

I reorder my keyword after the images have been reviewed for different reasons, one is the one I told before, the other is that I have not always the time to upload and order the keywords at the same moment.

« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2017, 14:41 »
+1
Hi Mat and all,

What is the difference between this new feature and the way whereby I can insert all keywords, copied from elsewhere (e.g. notepad or other keyword management program), into the first keyword box and clicking "enter"? In this way all keywords will be automatically inserted each into individual box. That's what I've been doing for quite a long time and I don't see how the new feature is anything more new than that one.

Also, I remain somewhat disappointed that this new feature doesn't appear to allow editing keywords (and titles) in a batch mode, so that I could keyword several similar images from the same photobatch at the same time. Unless I miss something. I think that's the feature that would be the real time-saving tool.

wds

« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2017, 15:20 »
+1
I was waiting for this feature, I have been one of those having asked for it a while ago.
So it is a good new!
But as I usually upload my photos using the ftp, in a first time, then I put my keywords in order only once the photos have been reviewed (I don't want to lose my time to order the keywords of images that could be rejected), and as in the portfolio page this new feature does not exist (I wonder why Adobe did this "half" work), it is almost useless for me, or I will have to change my workflow.

A question: if I order my keywords for an image and then I copy this keywords to paste them in another image, will they keep the order?

Yes, the order you add the keywords should stay in the order you add them. I don't recommend you resort your keywords after review.

-Mat

What's the reason you don't recommend resorting keywords after review?

« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2017, 16:20 »
+2
Hi Mat and all,

What is the difference between this new feature and the way whereby I can insert all keywords, copied from elsewhere (e.g. notepad or other keyword management program), into the first keyword box and clicking "enter"? In this way all keywords will be automatically inserted each into individual box. That's what I've been doing for quite a long time and I don't see how the new feature is anything more new than that one.

Also, I remain somewhat disappointed that this new feature doesn't appear to allow editing keywords (and titles) in a batch mode, so that I could keyword several similar images from the same photobatch at the same time. Unless I miss something. I think that's the feature that would be the real time-saving tool.

You are correct, you could always paste from a list of keywords into the top box and press enter or tab to distribute them. You could not copy your list of keywords however. In my workflow I would use the auto-keyword recommendations, add my own keywords and sort in order of relevance. If there were other images in the series that could use the same keywords there was no easy way to copy the list and apply it to other images. Now you can have the best of both worlds. If you prefer the keywords boxes they are still there and nothing has been changed. Simply ignore the toggle switch.

-Mat

« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2017, 16:27 »
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I was waiting for this feature, I have been one of those having asked for it a while ago.
So it is a good new!
But as I usually upload my photos using the ftp, in a first time, then I put my keywords in order only once the photos have been reviewed (I don't want to lose my time to order the keywords of images that could be rejected), and as in the portfolio page this new feature does not exist (I wonder why Adobe did this "half" work), it is almost useless for me, or I will have to change my workflow.

A question: if I order my keywords for an image and then I copy this keywords to paste them in another image, will they keep the order?

Yes, the order you add the keywords should stay in the order you add them. I don't recommend you resort your keywords after review.

-Mat

What's the reason you don't recommend resorting keywords after review?

The order of keywords is so important that putting it off until the file is already online could result in a missed opportunity to get found by people searching for new uploads. Unless you are really on top of it and make the switch immediately after it's been reviewed I think this is a mistake in strategy. That is just my personal opinion. Beyond that, I'm not a big fan of indexing to begin with. I'm always looking for ways to streamline and speed up the efficiency of my work flow. This is why I'm constantly working with the development team to increase the flexibility and range of options available in the portal. Indexing each file twice doesn't seem like good time management. Again, just my opinion. There is no "right way" and "wrong way" to do it. Whatever works for you is what you should do.

-Mat

-Mat

fritz

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« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2017, 16:59 »
+2
Off topic, do you plan to add Payoneer as payment option in near future?

« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2017, 01:29 »
+2
Very very helpful! Thank you  ;D

« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2017, 04:41 »
0
Whatever you did to your Adobe importing system, you broke it. We import data with CSV metadata and since your update, there are random files that don't read from metadata correctly. It even gives completely wrong keywords.

« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2017, 11:39 »
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Whatever you did to your Adobe importing system, you broke it. We import data with CSV metadata and since your update, there are random files that don't read from metadata correctly. It even gives completely wrong keywords.

Please send me an email with specific details and I'll look into this.

email: mhayward@adobe.com

thanks,

Mat

« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2017, 19:19 »
+1
If the first 7 keywords are so important why don't you show the first 7 by default  - I only see 5 unless I click on show all.

« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2017, 02:12 »
+1
If the first 7 keywords are so important why don't you show the first 7 by default  - I only see 5 unless I click on show all.
I have asked it many times and I never get a satisfying answer :D
On the Fotolia/Adobe they tell about 5 and Mat persists to tell about 7, so how it is really?

« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2017, 02:45 »
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Yay, Mat, and thank you so much for everything you do for us!

Martha

« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2017, 02:58 »
0
Well done Matt,
this is an extremely useful update!

« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2017, 03:00 »
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Whatever you did to your Adobe importing system, you broke it. We import data with CSV metadata and since your update, there are random files that don't read from metadata correctly. It even gives completely wrong keywords.

Please send me an email with specific details and I'll look into this.

email: mhayward@adobe.com

thanks,

Mat

We did consider emailing about the problem, but we rather manually overwrite wrong keywords and copy-paste the missing titles. That is why now you wouldn't able to recreate the problem. Maybe with our next import we will print-screen the problem.

« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2017, 13:36 »
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If the first 7 keywords are so important why don't you show the first 7 by default  - I only see 5 unless I click on show all.
I have asked it many times and I never get a satisfying answer :D
On the Fotolia/Adobe they tell about 5 and Mat persists to tell about 7, so how it is really?

@Chickikov, the answer to your question is yes.

Does that solve that? :)

As I'm typing this I'm sitting with the product manager for the contributor portal and he explained it to me like this. The first keyword you list has the most impact on relevance in the search. The 2nd keyword has high relevance but not as much as the first. The third keyword is less relevant than the first two and so on.

The trend continues, however when you get to keyword number 8 the % of relevance is so small it will have very little impact on search results if customers were using that word as a standalone. #7 is the last of which there is any significant relevance.

The reason there is a question about 5 or 7 is the minimum number of required keywords at Fotolia is 7 and the minimum at Adobe Stock is 5. The relevance is the same regardless.

My personal recommendation is to shoot for between 15 and 25 keywords.

-Mat

« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2017, 14:41 »
+1
If the first 7 keywords are so important why don't you show the first 7 by default  - I only see 5 unless I click on show all.
I have asked it many times and I never get a satisfying answer :D
On the Fotolia/Adobe they tell about 5 and Mat persists to tell about 7, so how it is really?

@Chickikov, the answer to your question is yes.

Does that solve that? :)

As I'm typing this I'm sitting with the product manager for the contributor portal and he explained it to me like this. The first keyword you list has the most impact on relevance in the search. The 2nd keyword has high relevance but not as much as the first. The third keyword is less relevant than the first two and so on.

The trend continues, however when you get to keyword number 8 the % of relevance is so small it will have very little impact on search results if customers were using that word as a standalone. #7 is the last of which there is any significant relevance.

The reason there is a question about 5 or 7 is the minimum number of required keywords at Fotolia is 7 and the minimum at Adobe Stock is 5. The relevance is the same regardless.

My personal recommendation is to shoot for between 15 and 25 keywords.

-Mat

Thanks for explaining that.

« Reply #21 on: December 11, 2017, 17:40 »
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If the first 7 keywords are so important why don't you show the first 7 by default  - I only see 5 unless I click on show all.
I have asked it many times and I never get a satisfying answer :D
On the Fotolia/Adobe they tell about 5 and Mat persists to tell about 7, so how it is really?

@Chickikov, the answer to your question is yes.

Does that solve that? :)

As I'm typing this I'm sitting with the product manager for the contributor portal and he explained it to me like this. The first keyword you list has the most impact on relevance in the search. The 2nd keyword has high relevance but not as much as the first. The third keyword is less relevant than the first two and so on.

The trend continues, however when you get to keyword number 8 the % of relevance is so small it will have very little impact on search results if customers were using that word as a standalone. #7 is the last of which there is any significant relevance.

The reason there is a question about 5 or 7 is the minimum number of required keywords at Fotolia is 7 and the minimum at Adobe Stock is 5. The relevance is the same regardless.

My personal recommendation is to shoot for between 15 and 25 keywords.

-Mat

Well that makes more sense than ever and now I'll make sure the most important word is first not just one of the first seven. Thanks Mat

« Reply #22 on: December 11, 2017, 17:53 »
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Please add the possibility to sort keywords for several images at once! It's a pain to sort keywords for each image of a series!

« Reply #23 on: December 12, 2017, 01:56 »
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If the first 7 keywords are so important why don't you show the first 7 by default  - I only see 5 unless I click on show all.
I have asked it many times and I never get a satisfying answer :D
On the Fotolia/Adobe they tell about 5 and Mat persists to tell about 7, so how it is really?

@Chickikov, the answer to your question is yes.

Does that solve that? :)

As I'm typing this I'm sitting with the product manager for the contributor portal and he explained it to me like this. The first keyword you list has the most impact on relevance in the search. The 2nd keyword has high relevance but not as much as the first. The third keyword is less relevant than the first two and so on.

The trend continues, however when you get to keyword number 8 the % of relevance is so small it will have very little impact on search results if customers were using that word as a standalone. #7 is the last of which there is any significant relevance.

The reason there is a question about 5 or 7 is the minimum number of required keywords at Fotolia is 7 and the minimum at Adobe Stock is 5. The relevance is the same regardless.

My personal recommendation is to shoot for between 15 and 25 keywords.

-Mat

Q: how it is really?
A: yes

Thank you Mat, all is clear now :D :D

JaenStock

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« Reply #24 on: December 12, 2017, 02:27 »
+1
Hi matt, why dont change the sistem of kwords order?? Is very painful... Why dont use stars system like Alamy or Stocksy??


 

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