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Do you add a description in addition to a title when embedding metadata?

Yes
42 (89.4%)
No
5 (10.6%)

Total Members Voted: 47

Author Topic: Question about your metadata workflow  (Read 936 times)

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« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2018, 10:54 »
+3
Title - is usually no more than 7 words
Description - is up to 200 characters

Sites should put more weight on the Description than the Title

« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2018, 11:03 »
0
For video I don't embed the metadata but use both the title and description fields in Lightroom, which I cut and paste manually in submitting to each site. Title I use up to 80 characters to maximise the Title field at Pond5. The caption field I use up to 200 characters which is the upper limit for SS and Adobe. I find the 200 character limit very restrictive, particularly as I do a lot of editorial video where a comprehensive description + date and location info is essential.

« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2018, 11:06 »
0
Always a title usually a short two to six word description of the item or scene

Then the description is more in depth and if its editorial it has to include the date and place (of course not relevant to Adobe).

Reason: Well descriptions are searchable on many sites (Alamy & Shutterstock for example) and it gives some background of the image for buyers and helps explain what the image is trying to portray.

As to your question about copying and pasting: Yes always for Adobe/Fotolia and its a pain in the ass and slows submission down considerably.

Yours is the only site I have to do this for.  :(

Every other site uses the description and some use the title and description (Dreamstime for example)

« Last Edit: September 07, 2018, 11:08 by Sammy the Cat »

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« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2018, 11:10 »
0
I create both a short title and a more extensive description in Lightroom and export Jpegs from there. In Stock Submitter, I rearrange the keywords to put some important ones at the beginning of the field (why can't Lightroom have a non-alphabetic sort option???) and let Stock Submitter do its thing for all the agencies. I still have mine configured to upload to the Fotolia site.

I've just checked the options in Stock Submitter - there is one for Fotolia to use the description instead of the title, but I have that unchecked for Fotolia. To be honest, I hadn't realized until now that Adobe didn't use both fields.

Steve

« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2018, 11:22 »
0
I embed both the title and description.  At Fotolia I replace the title with the description.  It would save time if the description was imported automatically instead of the shorter title. 

« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2018, 11:43 »
+2
I copy my description into the title field when submitting to Adobe Stock.

Based partly on the rules of older sites, the title is shorter and the description, particularly of anything concrete (famous location, specific holiday, plant/animal details) contains key identifying details.

Shutterstock just grabs the description field and uses only that, so it's no additional work (and there is never anything missing if you only grab the description field, which is not true the other way around).

Since December 2016 (when I resumed uploading to Adobe/Fotolia) I keyword with the most important first (I keyword in Photoshop). That's never wrong anywhere else, so it's an easy step to take. With earlier files, I don't want to re-create the JPEGs so I re-arrange the keyword order on Adobe Stock after upload to ensure the important keywords are up top.


« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2018, 12:36 »
+2
I add both title and caption in metadata, and I do not tag specifically for any site and I do not copy/paste: it's already time-consuming enough to tag once.

However I try to make the title informative enough.

So, if Fotolia wishes to have more information, please import caption instead of (or in addition to) title.
This is particularly important for possibile addition of editorial to Fotolia, sooner or later.

P.S. Mat, I appreciate these precise technical questions: no other agency bothers to ask us.
« Last Edit: September 07, 2018, 12:39 by msg2018 »

« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2018, 14:11 »
+2
I add a unique title and a generic description per image.

Like....
Title: Doctor: Male Physician Holds Up X-ray Film
Desc: Series featuring a male doctor in scrubs on an isolated background.

I used to put the extra work into it on SS and 123 to copy the title from Bridge and paste it into their description field, but I tired of that.

« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2018, 14:37 »
+1
Nobody gets any special treatment anymore. You get what is in the tagged file. It's bad enough I have to make a zillion different zipped, eps, jpeg formats and combinations.

Uncle Pete

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« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2018, 16:56 »
0
I always have a Title and Description, both are useful at various places. I always click the copyrighted box, but I don't know if that matters.

I also enter A Category and Origin, the location Etc. although it seems nothing micro cares or even stores that. News agencies do.
« Last Edit: September 07, 2018, 16:58 by Uncle Pete »

« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2018, 02:01 »
0
I add title, description and keywords in Bridge. And then I copy/paste the description when submitting to Adobe/Fotolia.

BTW, Bridge keeps the keyword order that I have entered after importance, so I don't have to re-order the keywords at Adobe/Fotolia. It was a trick I read somewhere in this forum.

« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2018, 04:32 »
0
I have all my videos populated with titles, descriptions and all keywords before uploading.

When I upload to Adobe I leave everything as is - although sometimes, I'll spend time re-jigging the keywords to have the important ones at the front as Adobe suggests. Never keen on spending time doing that.

I don't mess around copy and pasting descriptions to titles - I've done all my metadata already.

« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2018, 05:11 »
0
Title and description, absolutely.
I am not sure but I think that the description is indexed by the search engines, so more it is complete and precise more the image get a chance to be found.

« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2018, 11:50 »
0
I copy Title to Description, slightly changing the text. Or Description to Title - I don't track this, because some stocks switching it.
One field usually contains more information.

« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2018, 05:37 »
+1
Mine is done in LR for all images.

But im forced to repaste from an excel spreadsheet the non alphabetical keywording into adobe after uploading.

Why several years down the line since AS bought out Fotolia LR still doesn't have an option to export keywords in non alphabetic order i don't know.  It would massively streamline peoples workflows.

« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2018, 07:27 »
0
For a single file that I upload via Adobe stock portal I paste description. I click a lot :)


 

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