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« Reply #25 on: September 23, 2011, 15:14 »
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I am beyond speechless!!. They are acting like thugs, there is no other word to describe their behavior towards contributors.


traveler1116

« Reply #26 on: September 23, 2011, 15:19 »
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That's insane, I can't imagine very many people accepting a loss like that from Fotolia especially if they enforce it arbitrarily.

« Reply #27 on: September 23, 2011, 15:22 »
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You know this could seriously, seriously, seriously backfire on FT.

If SS were to decide that they didn't want to compete against FT anymore so gave us all the option to either pull our ports from FT or have our SS accounts closed ... then FT would be dead in the water.

« Reply #28 on: September 23, 2011, 15:24 »
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I can't help but think that this is a desperate measure...

I'll make sure to request payouts whenever possible.

« Reply #29 on: September 23, 2011, 15:26 »
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This is what's going to happen unless we get together and do something.  I can't really blame them, they see people accepting 25% from a new site with much lower EL prices.  I thought that would lead to lower commissions but I didn't expect it this quickly.

« Reply #30 on: September 23, 2011, 15:29 »
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The are so naive, do they really think it's the lower price competition (where???) that is hitting them?
« Last Edit: September 23, 2011, 15:31 by Perry »

« Reply #31 on: September 23, 2011, 15:33 »
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the more curious is that they are serious about making money, I havent received this email (not far from silver)

« Reply #32 on: September 23, 2011, 15:36 »
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« Last Edit: September 24, 2011, 15:48 by stockmarketer »

« Reply #33 on: September 23, 2011, 15:37 »
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1) NO
2) Bronze

« Reply #34 on: September 23, 2011, 15:38 »
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the more curious is that they are serious about making money, I havent received this email (not far from silver)


Hmm... This is interesting.  Is it only going to certain levels?  Gold and above?

Everyone reply with:

1) Did you get the letter: YES / NO
2) What level are you?

For the record, I got it, and I'm Emerald



It doesn't matter - it's on their website:
http://us.fotolia.com/Info/Contributors/GeneralInformation
« Last Edit: September 23, 2011, 15:42 by Maui »

« Reply #35 on: September 23, 2011, 15:40 »
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I'm not sure I have many images available for both a lower price and lower royalty than what FT offers. Regardless, why should royalty rates matter? Aren't they only competing on price for buyers? What a load of BS (and I don't mean Bigstock).

Whatever though, I'm so glad I left there. I guess I should get rid of my last image and close the book. I solved their competition problem by removing them as a competitor. Probably not what they had in mind though.

« Reply #36 on: September 23, 2011, 15:42 »
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Does anyone have any idea which agencies they are referring to?

I bet they are referring e.g. to Photodune, since they never seemed to be interested in DT's or IS's pricing.
If it is really so and they don't refer to other big sites, I think this is the right move.

All you muppets supplying Photodune and selling ELs for 5 USD x 25%, did you really think this would have no consequences?
How old are you? 10? You really thought they would not mind if you demand 100 USD for an EL at FT and happily sell the same elsewhere for 5 USD? Wait for more! In fact you guys are lucky that I'm not the CEO of FT because I would degrade your rank to "transparent" and pay you 1% because by selling at Photodune you have announced publicly that you will lick any peanuts off the floor anywhere where peanuts are to be found. You undercut yourselves, you undercut everybody else, you should not expect a fair treatment. You are cheapos, period.

In the Photodune thread I recommended that Photodune's contributors make a projection how much money they will lose when the big sites adjust  their commisions to Photodune's levels. Here you go.

I do think that FT are greedy *, but some contributors are way more greedy than FT.
Eventually all greed gets punished.
« Last Edit: September 23, 2011, 15:47 by Snufkin »

« Reply #37 on: September 23, 2011, 15:42 »
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« Last Edit: September 24, 2011, 15:48 by stockmarketer »

« Reply #38 on: September 23, 2011, 15:44 »
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I bet they are referring e.g. to Photodune, since they never seemed to be interested in DT's or IS's pricing.

Ah, Photodune... That is possible. I too was wondering which sites they were referring to.

nruboc

« Reply #39 on: September 23, 2011, 15:53 »
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I didn't get this message and I'm Emerald, and I do not submit to ThinkStock...correlation?

« Reply #40 on: September 23, 2011, 15:54 »
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Does anyone have any idea which agencies they are referring to?

I bet they are referring e.g. to Photodune, since they never seemed to be interested in DT's or IS's pricing.
If it is really so and they don't refer to other big sites, I think this is the right move.

All you muppets supplying Photodune and selling ELs for 5 USD x 25%, did you really think this would have no consequences?
How old are you? 10? You really thought they would not mind if you demand 100 USD for an EL at FT and happily sell the same elsewhere for 5 USD? Wait for more! In fact you guys are lucky that I'm not the CEO of FT because I would degrade your rank to "transparent" and pay you 1% because by selling at Photodune you have announced publicly that you will lick any peanuts off the floor anywhere where peanuts are to be found. You undercut yourselves, you undercut everybody else, you should not expect a fair treatment. You are cheapos, period.

In the Photodune thread I recommended that Photodune's contributors make a projection how much money they will lose when the big sites adjust  their commisions to Photodune's levels. Here you go.

I do think that FT are greedy *, but some contributors are way more greedy than FT.
Eventually all greed gets punished.

thats a beautiful post, great stuff but in the end I believe top contributors do feel the down on IS and perhaps other agencies so why not to look into other agencies? what do you recommend? just Alamy? wanna hear more from you :)

« Reply #41 on: September 23, 2011, 15:56 »
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I didn't get this message and I'm Emerald, and I do not submit to ThinkStock...correlation?

I am on thinkstock (XP and IS), bronze, no email

« Reply #42 on: September 23, 2011, 15:57 »
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I think if they go ahead and do this for some contributors and not do it for the ones they chose not to do so, then we as contributors can sue them for sure..

If they do such thing, they must do it for everyone with no exceptions

« Reply #43 on: September 23, 2011, 16:00 »
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The are so naive, do they really think it's the lower price competition (where???) that is hitting them?

That's the EXCUSE to claw back revenue.

« Reply #44 on: September 23, 2011, 16:00 »
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I think if they go ahead and do this for some contributors and not do it for the ones they chose not to do so, then we as contributors can sue them for sure..

If they do such thing, they must do it for everyone with no exceptions

why do you say that? I remember Yuri getting the higher level at DP without having the sales

nruboc

« Reply #45 on: September 23, 2011, 16:01 »
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Fotolia has been mirroring IStock's moves, so I believe this had to do with the forced inclusion of files into ThinkStock. If the alternative was to reduce commissions on EVERYONE then I support this decision. Hit the ones that are contributing to the lowering of commissions, not the ones that are standing their ground against Getty's race to the bottom.

« Reply #46 on: September 23, 2011, 16:04 »
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The are so naive, do they really think it's the lower price competition (where???) that is hitting them?

That's the EXCUSE to claw back revenue.  I also think their end is near.

« Reply #47 on: September 23, 2011, 16:04 »
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I think if they go ahead and do this for some contributors and not do it for the ones they chose not to do so, then we as contributors can sue them for sure..

If they do such thing, they must do it for everyone with no exceptions

why do you say that? I remember Yuri getting the higher level at DP without having the sales

I didn't know that.. then it is illegal.. is it not?  :)

« Reply #48 on: September 23, 2011, 16:04 »
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« Last Edit: September 24, 2011, 15:49 by stockmarketer »

« Reply #49 on: September 23, 2011, 16:05 »
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thats a beautiful post, great stuff but in the end I believe top contributors do feel the down on IS and perhaps other agencies so why not to look into other agencies? what do you recommend? just Alamy? wanna hear more from you :)

1. Supply only fair OR expensive microstock sites.
2. Do not supply cheapo sites under no circumstances.
3. Work on your macro portfolio.
4. Put more effort into developing your own sales channels. Try to reduce the depandancy on microstock agencies.
5. Find other things that earn money.


 

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