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« on: September 25, 2016, 05:40 »
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I just noticed FT climbed second in the poll. When did this happen?
Just one more huge step to the top, you can do it FT!
« Last Edit: September 25, 2016, 06:32 by Dodie »


« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2016, 06:45 »
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Don't trust these polls....

« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2016, 06:56 »
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Don't trust these polls....
I don't, still it's nice to see how fast things change.
« Last Edit: September 26, 2016, 04:39 by Dodie »

« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2016, 07:01 »
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Last year, Fotolia was 7% of my total income, Istock was 16.3%

This year (up until September) Fotolia is 9.5% vs Istock 10%. They are soon going to surpass Istock for me.

« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2016, 11:40 »
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on a monthly basis, Fotolia regularly out performs istock for me and has done for a while.

« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2016, 04:10 »
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Don't trust these polls....

In this case it accurately reflects my experience.

« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2016, 08:43 »
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Don't trust these polls....

In this case it accurately reflects my experience.
Indeed. Same here.
Except for those moments when Alamy cheated their way to number 2, fraud easy to discard by anyone with basic knowledge in statistics.

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« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2016, 11:12 »
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Don't trust these polls....

In this case it accurately reflects my experience.

FT pays me more rpd, SS makes much more money a month. Is IS going down or is FT going up? Alamy jumped up when people from there took the time to take the poll, nothing more, not cheating.

Cheating would be when DP had the trolls taking the poll do make them look better. We know DP are lying cheats. Now they are at the real number.

I like the new FT and the higher commissions I've been getting. No new files to speak of for almost a year. That tells me, FT is going up.

« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2016, 10:17 »
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In this case it accurately reflects my experience.

FT pays me more rpd, SS makes much more money a month. Is IS going down or is FT going up? Alamy jumped up when people from there took the time to take the poll, nothing more, not cheating.

Cheating would be when DP had the trolls taking the poll do make them look better. We know DP are lying cheats. Now they are at the real number.

I like the new FT and the higher commissions I've been getting. No new files to speak of for almost a year. That tells me, FT is going up.

i like the new adobe for sure. i am back in fotolia, or rather adobe...as i closed my account a long back after joining and doing well with ss
..but now that all these funny games been going on with ss, i am back with adding new works with adobe... as a new bean, lol..
and already the starting with much less than i have at ss, fotolia is already way ahead
in earnings for me than ss.

i will feed the beast again, but this time at adobe.

« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2016, 18:19 »
+3
I agree 100% with Fotolia.  Shutterstock messed up my account with the reset link to change my password and the reset did not work.  It is going on two weeks now and I still can't fix what they messed up.  I can't get into my account to see how much money I have made and cannot upload over 6,000 images I recently took on assignment.  I have written support many many times and they have not corrected the mistake that they made as of yet. (Very unprofessional)  I hope Fotolia take the #1 spot because they are really stepping up the plate with Adobe.  I am very happy with them.  As far as Shutterstock is concerned --even Goliath couldn't handle David with his slingshot.

dpimborough

« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2016, 23:55 »
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Don't trust these polls....

In this case it accurately reflects my experience.
Indeed. Same here.
Except for those moments when Alamy cheated their way to number 2, fraud easy to discard by anyone with basic knowledge in statistics.

Sent from my SM-G920T using Tapatalk

You have evidence for this do you?

Lets hear it then.  Saying that Alamy cheated is based on nothing more than your supposition.

If you must know I reported over $800 and $1200 in sales with Alamy during the periods when they spiked in the graph.  Big sales come and go with Alamy and it all depends on contributors reporting them.

So to keep you and the rest of the tin foil hat brigade happy Alamy contributors should shut their mouths and just report the penny sales they get from micro stock agencies  ::)
« Last Edit: October 08, 2016, 00:03 by Teddy the Cat »

« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2016, 00:04 »
+1
Don't trust these polls....

In this case it accurately reflects my experience.
Indeed. Same here.
Except for those moments when Alamy cheated their way to number 2, fraud easy to discard by anyone with basic knowledge in statistics.

Sent from my SM-G920T using Tapatalk

You have evidence for this do you?

Lets hear it then.  Saying that Alamy cheated is based on nothing more than your supposition.

If you must know I reported over $800 and $1200 in sales with Alamy during the periods when they spiked in the graph.  Big sales come and go with Alamy and it all depends on contributors reporting them.

So to keep you and the rest of the tin foil hat brigade happy Alamy contributors should shut their mouths and just report the penny sales they get from micro stock agencies
First of all I hope you have reported your true share and not the straight totals you got from Alamy.
Secondly, you are probably challenged by statistics. Such sudden variations cannot happen when enough samples are computed, unless there is an abnormality somewhere.

In practice, it doesn't really snow in August, does it?

Btw, I am also an Alamy contributor reporting regularly my share of 3 digits.

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« Last Edit: October 08, 2016, 00:27 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2016, 01:16 »
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There are far from enough samples from any site  for the figures on the right to be taken "seriously" from a statistical perspective. Also the poll is self selecting and unmoderated leading to sample bias. It is also a huge leap from an unusual result to "cheating".  Its an interesting guide but no more than that.

« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2016, 09:58 »
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There are far from enough samples from any site  for the figures on the right to be taken "seriously" from a statistical perspective. Also the poll is self selecting and unmoderated leading to sample bias. It is also a huge leap from an unusual result to "cheating".  Its an interesting guide but no more than that.

I recommend you to go back to basic statistics:
https://youtu.be/aSOUQKqIYak

to understand that the likelihood for these 2 odd points to happen (given the reported score history) is under 0.005%!  :o

In other words, you can bet, with more than 99.995% chances to be right, that these values are strange!  ;)

For visualization purposes, check the attached graph where I only show the 99% confidence intervals.

« Last Edit: October 08, 2016, 10:01 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2016, 10:56 »
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I wasn't talking about the time series analysis but the fact that the overall score is unreliable...you've heard of GIGO right?


« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2016, 11:27 »
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I wasn't talking about the time series analysis but the fact that the overall score is unreliable...you've heard of GIGO right?
Yes! Exactly my point.
The above graph is actually a good way to prove that we have a clear case of "Garbage In", when it comes to Alamy reports.

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« Last Edit: October 08, 2016, 11:33 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2016, 01:52 »
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Though of course there is nothing even in your mastery of statistics that says this is a result of fraud. There are any number of explanations and as I only have 12 numbers and almost zero knowledge of how they were collected with my less than basic knowledge I wouldn't want to speculate.

dpimborough

« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2016, 16:36 »
+1
Don't trust these polls....

In this case it accurately reflects my experience.
Indeed. Same here.
Except for those moments when Alamy cheated their way to number 2, fraud easy to discard by anyone with basic knowledge in statistics.

Sent from my SM-G920T using Tapatalk

You have evidence for this do you?

Lets hear it then.  Saying that Alamy cheated is based on nothing more than your supposition.

If you must know I reported over $800 and $1200 in sales with Alamy during the periods when they spiked in the graph.  Big sales come and go with Alamy and it all depends on contributors reporting them.

So to keep you and the rest of the tin foil hat brigade happy Alamy contributors should shut their mouths and just report the penny sales they get from micro stock agencies
First of all I hope you have reported your true share and not the straight totals you got from Alamy.
Secondly, you are probably challenged by statistics. Such sudden variations cannot happen when enough samples are computed, unless there is an abnormality somewhere.

In practice, it doesn't really snow in August, does it?

Btw, I am also an Alamy contributor reporting regularly my share of 3 digits.

Sent from my SM-G920T using Tapatalk

Of course I submitted my net earnings I am not stupid

but I guess you must be mentally challenged throwing comments like "Alamy cheated" and "fraud" when you admit you don't have any proof

« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2016, 17:07 »
+1
Don't trust these polls....

In this case it accurately reflects my experience.
Indeed. Same here.
Except for those moments when Alamy cheated their way to number 2, fraud easy to discard by anyone with basic knowledge in statistics.

Sent from my SM-G920T using Tapatalk

You have evidence for this do you?

Lets hear it then.  Saying that Alamy cheated is based on nothing more than your supposition.

If you must know I reported over $800 and $1200 in sales with Alamy during the periods when they spiked in the graph.  Big sales come and go with Alamy and it all depends on contributors reporting them.

So to keep you and the rest of the tin foil hat brigade happy Alamy contributors should shut their mouths and just report the penny sales they get from micro stock agencies
First of all I hope you have reported your true share and not the straight totals you got from Alamy.
Secondly, you are probably challenged by statistics. Such sudden variations cannot happen when enough samples are computed, unless there is an abnormality somewhere.

In practice, it doesn't really snow in August, does it?

Btw, I am also an Alamy contributor reporting regularly my share of 3 digits.

Sent from my SM-G920T using Tapatalk

Of course I submitted my net earnings I am not stupid

but I guess you must be mentally challenged throwing comments like "Alamy cheated" and "fraud" when you admit you don't have any proof

Yes, there is a chance for these Alamy results to reflect the reality, indeed:

https://youtu.be/KX5jNnDMfxA

 ;D

Why are you doing microstock and struggle to use that convoluted Alamy keywording interface, when you could easily win the lottery, based on similar beliefs?
« Last Edit: October 09, 2016, 17:11 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2016, 22:01 »
+4
Don't trust these polls....

In this case it accurately reflects my experience.
Indeed. Same here.
Except for those moments when Alamy cheated their way to number 2, fraud easy to discard by anyone with basic knowledge in statistics.

Sent from my SM-G920T using Tapatalk

You have evidence for this do you?

Lets hear it then.  Saying that Alamy cheated is based on nothing more than your supposition.

If you must know I reported over $800 and $1200 in sales with Alamy during the periods when they spiked in the graph.  Big sales come and go with Alamy and it all depends on contributors reporting them.

So to keep you and the rest of the tin foil hat brigade happy Alamy contributors should shut their mouths and just report the penny sales they get from micro stock agencies
First of all I hope you have reported your true share and not the straight totals you got from Alamy.
Secondly, you are probably challenged by statistics. Such sudden variations cannot happen when enough samples are computed, unless there is an abnormality somewhere.

In practice, it doesn't really snow in August, does it?

Btw, I am also an Alamy contributor reporting regularly my share of 3 digits.

Sent from my SM-G920T using Tapatalk

Of course I submitted my net earnings I am not stupid

but I guess you must be mentally challenged throwing comments like "Alamy cheated" and "fraud" when you admit you don't have any proof

The only proof is that Alamy photographers came and voted, to show what they make. I agree it doesn't take cheating, just participation. Then they didn't come back.

FT making 30% of SS is not a revolution. Nice move up past the trash and villains. They deserve the spot. But that doesn't mean FT will take over the market.

This isn't a video game, it's business. There's no trick and back door. What you see is just what you will get.

« Reply #20 on: October 11, 2016, 14:14 »
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Yes, FT deserves the spot, but it deserves to be much closer to SS, not to IS.
In my opinion this can and will happen only when FT introduces some kind of editorial section.

« Reply #21 on: October 12, 2016, 09:48 »
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gyllens

« Reply #22 on: October 12, 2016, 10:12 »
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Yes, FT deserves the spot, but it deserves to be much closer to SS, not to IS.
In my opinion this can and will happen only when FT introduces some kind of editorial section.


Agree! they also need to front images of high commercial value a bit more.

« Reply #23 on: October 12, 2016, 10:32 »
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Think they still have a lot of catching up to do but its good to see some proper competition ...whatever we think of the various theories it seems SS have become very complacent and careless. 

« Reply #24 on: October 18, 2016, 20:25 »
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DT 5, DP 5, 123RF is 15 and three times them, Alamy as well. Does anybody believe that 123RF is 3x DT or DP? If you do, then those two are dead. Alamy even with 123RF, is that a joke?

FT adobe worked for what they have and we are making more. They are beating IS Getty and deserve what they have done for the market.


 

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