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lagereek

« Reply #50 on: February 14, 2011, 14:29 »
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She is a troll!!!!  why do you insist on feeding this crettin??


« Reply #51 on: February 14, 2011, 14:32 »
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Not sure why everyone is jumping all over the OP?

This makes perfectly logical sense...wouldn't you rather on the rare occasion that we can influence a buyer where to purchase that we should send them to sites that have the highest Return Per Download for us.  That is perfect business sense and I applaud your efforts to support sites with fair payouts for me it is not the percentage that matters but how much money I actually make per sale on average.  

Exactly! I completly agree!
Lately I see the tendency of some People to defend an Company just because their emotional reactions to some posters and not because it makes sense. Not a surprise to me that many of the Agencies are just doing whatever they want if the chant is "we can`t change anything so lets do nothing"...(which is not true, we can make a difference IMHO)

Agree wholeheartedly.

Wasn't the power of social networking just being touted as a big influence in the whole Egypt uprising? If they can topple a president, I don't see why people couldn't topple a corporation.

« Reply #52 on: February 14, 2011, 14:34 »
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She is a troll!!!!  why do you insist on feeding this crettin??

She might be a troll but as long as we are labelling people, I think I would label you an IS shill.  ;)

lagereek

« Reply #53 on: February 14, 2011, 14:39 »
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She is a troll!!!!  why do you insist on feeding this crettin??

She might be a troll but as long as we are labelling people, I think I would label you an IS shill.  ;)


Great!  whats a shill?  never heard of it. Oh btw, Im an independant, if thats what you mean? :P

vlad_the_imp

« Reply #54 on: February 14, 2011, 15:19 »
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Wasn't the power of social networking just being touted as a big influence in the whole Egypt uprising?

And you genuinely believe that the political situation in Egypt is comparable with IS dropping it's rates of commission to some of its contributors? Sheesh.

« Reply #55 on: February 14, 2011, 15:23 »
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Wasn't the power of social networking just being touted as a big influence in the whole Egypt uprising?

And you genuinely believe that the political situation in Egypt is comparable with IS dropping it's rates of commission to some of its contributors? Sheesh.

I don't believe I said that at all. I believe I was using the comparison of the power of social networking to do damage to a company. Sheesh.   ::)

Shill...google it.  :)

« Reply #56 on: February 14, 2011, 15:26 »
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Wasn't the power of social networking just being touted as a big influence in the whole Egypt uprising?

And you genuinely believe that the political situation in Egypt is comparable with IS dropping it's rates of commission to some of its contributors? Sheesh.

No!

Homo Sapiens survived while Neanderthals became extinct, just because he had the gift of speech ... The key thing is "the information" at the right time ...

P.S.
Arab world is experiencing some kind of Internet revolution, because the Internet provides lot of information and examples how can be different from everything what surrounds you ...
They are not first in that or last...
« Last Edit: February 14, 2011, 15:30 by borg »

vlad_the_imp

« Reply #57 on: February 14, 2011, 15:29 »
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 :-X
« Last Edit: February 14, 2011, 15:44 by vlad_the_imp »

« Reply #58 on: February 14, 2011, 15:45 »
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Here are my numbers in order of highest pay per download, I use this as my guide to direct buyers where to go.

dreamstime  $1.69
canstock       $1.42

bigstock        $1.15
Istock           $0.92*
123rf            $0.65
Fotolia          $0.64*
Shutterstock  $0.55

*all numbers are an average of the past 12 months these are numbers not taking into account the recent commision cut since they just happened, so presumably fotolia and IS will have roughly 20% lower numbers in the coming year.

I've seen more and more people promoting this idea and I totally agree with it. On a related note, are photographer RPD's really this low at all the sites. You guys seem to be getting the short end of the stick with higher operating costs and lower prices. Here's mine for reference.

Veer            $13.15
my site    $10.00
Clipartof      $7.40
G Leftovers   $5.20
iStock      $2.67
Canstock      $2.15
Bigstock      $1.15
Fotolia      $1.03
Stockfresh      $1.00
Dreamstime  $0.94
123RF      $0.78
Crestock      $0.76
Shutterstock $0.57
Vectorstock  $0.42

« Reply #59 on: February 14, 2011, 16:36 »
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Here are my numbers in order of highest pay per download, I use this as my guide to direct buyers where to go.

dreamstime  $1.69
canstock       $1.42

bigstock        $1.15
Istock           $0.92*
123rf            $0.65
Fotolia          $0.64*
Shutterstock  $0.55

*all numbers are an average of the past 12 months these are numbers not taking into account the recent commision cut since they just happened, so presumably fotolia and IS will have roughly 20% lower numbers in the coming year.

I've seen more and more people promoting this idea and I totally agree with it. On a related note, are photographer RPD's really this low at all the sites. You guys seem to be getting the short end of the stick with higher operating costs and lower prices. Here's mine for reference.

Veer            $13.15
my site    $10.00
Clipartof      $7.40
G Leftovers   $5.20
iStock      $2.67
Canstock      $2.15
Bigstock      $1.15
Fotolia      $1.03
Stockfresh      $1.00
Dreamstime  $0.94
123RF      $0.78
Crestock      $0.76
Shutterstock $0.57
Vectorstock  $0.42

wow, you are getting some awesome rpd's. yes, as a matter of fact we are getting the short end of the stick!  :)

lisafx

« Reply #60 on: February 14, 2011, 16:48 »
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Cory sells vectors.  There is a big difference in RPD for vectors than for photographs.   Anyone thinks they can take a good photograph.   People who can draw well are rarer, and most people who can't draw probably know it, so the illustrators benefit from less supply.  

ETA:  Not to take anything away from Cory's talent or success, BTW.  Just trying to explain the difference in RPD :)
« Last Edit: February 14, 2011, 18:47 by lisafx »

« Reply #61 on: February 14, 2011, 17:29 »
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What lightscribe said.

Most certainly, if I'm ever asked where to find stock photos, I'm not going to mention IS, I'm going to suggest sites that sell my images for a fair price.   Like lightscribe said, it's just logical, and I can't grasp why people are ridiculing this suggestion, unless they're so heavily invested in IS today that they don't want to think about alternative futures.

nruboc

« Reply #62 on: February 14, 2011, 17:30 »
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reveal yourself, so we all can see your all mighty portfolio.

Well obviously I'm not going to do that, I like the luxury of being able to post anonymously too much, but having looked at 'snappystock'  I'm not too worried.
I fall, mainly due to my IS income, within the top 10% of earners in the European country I live in. How about you?

I could care less what you think about my work, just the fact you won't reveal your speaks volumes..lol..  

« Reply #63 on: February 14, 2011, 17:35 »
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Pulling links that point to the big guys (like iS and FT) will not hurt them that much if you look at the % of their traffic and marketing budget.  They will not "feel" it like a smaller site would.  It does make a difference with organic (search) traffic ranking and of course the small percentage of buyers one would send from their site.

BUT... who will feel it is the little site that you want to show support.  Not only would it increase that smaller site's search ranking, your links in and buyer traffic would make up a larger % of the site's overall.

So, yes... IMO pulling any links to sites that you do not "support" (whatever that may mean to you) and putting links to sites you do will make a difference over time.

nruboc

« Reply #64 on: February 14, 2011, 17:41 »
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If anyone s till not getting paid for Partner Program or anything else, I would definitely recommend the BBB (Better Business Bureau) Canada. That's what I did when ISTock didn't take down my images after 6 months.

After that, I got an immediate reponse:
http://www.bbb.org/canada/

This post courtesy of vlad_the_imp

nruboc

« Reply #65 on: February 14, 2011, 17:48 »
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reveal yourself, so we all can see your all mighty portfolio.

Well obviously I'm not going to do that, I like the luxury of being able to post anonymously too much, but having looked at 'snappystock'  I'm not too worried.
I fall, mainly due to my IS income, within the top 10% of earners in the European country I live in. How about you?


I could care less what you think about my work, just the fact you won't reveal your speaks volumes..lol.. BTW how is the weather in Moldova? 

« Reply #66 on: February 14, 2011, 18:19 »
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Pulling links that point to the big guys (like iS and FT) will not hurt them that much...
Maybe so, but I sent at least 20 new members and customers to iStock from links on my site. I have deleted those links. Every little bit hurts.

And I wonder: Are the anonymous IS cheerleaders here rudely deriding the OP's suggestions because they won't work, or because they might work?  :-\

« Reply #67 on: February 14, 2011, 19:11 »
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Well I wouldn't mind betting I earn quite a bit more than you do. I could be wrong of course, but i'd still bet on it. So not a bad decision really.
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And I bet my genetic reproduction tool is longer than yours. Are you aware how stupid your argument is?

WarrenPrice

« Reply #68 on: February 14, 2011, 19:16 »
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Much easier to criticize than to create.  The OP offered a creative idea.  What positive input can the critic offer?

Do Nothing is not positive nor creative.  ::)

Or, is your talent limited to flaunting you massive income?

velocicarpo

« Reply #69 on: February 14, 2011, 19:17 »
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Much easier to criticize than to create.  The OP offered a creative idea.  What positive input can the critic offer?

Do Nothing is not positive nor creative.  ::)

Or, is your talent limited to flaunting you massive income?

+1

nruboc

« Reply #70 on: February 14, 2011, 19:19 »
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Well I wouldn't mind betting I earn quite a bit more than you do. I could be wrong of course, but i'd still bet on it. So not a bad decision really.
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And I bet my genetic reproduction tool is longer than yours. Are you aware how stupid your argument is?
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LOL... but ..but but.. vlad_the_gimp makes the top 10% of earners in his European country.  LOL

« Reply #71 on: February 14, 2011, 19:21 »
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And I bet my genetic reproduction tool is longer than yours. Are you aware how stupid your argument is?

LOL!

nruboc

« Reply #72 on: February 14, 2011, 19:23 »
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And I bet my genetic reproduction tool is longer than yours. Are you aware how stupid your argument is?

LOL!

Absolutelty amazing how pompous this ass is without even putting up his portfolio for review.

fritz

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« Reply #73 on: February 14, 2011, 19:48 »
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This remind me on Microsoft story. Nobody likes Microsoft but still 90% of the people are using Windows and Linux is for free.
 Why??? It's the same answer for iStock?
Well , whatever small fish do the big one will double the bait($$$)
They are too big and strong to beat them. You can join them or vanish.  It's your choice.

nruboc

« Reply #74 on: February 14, 2011, 19:51 »
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This remind me on Microsoft story. Nobody likes Microsoft but still 90% of the people are using Windows and Linux is for free.
 Why??? It's the same answer for iStock?
Well , whatever small fish do the big one will double the bait($$$)
They are too big and strong to beat them. You can join them or vanish.  It's your choice.

Oh please, your saying the conversion between operating systems is the same as buying from a different stock site. Rubbish.


 

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