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put it down to the nature of the beast. Unfortunately a lot of these photogs are ill-educated, self-employed egomaniacs and they exist on eveyr forum. None of these numb nuts would get a team job never mind function in one hence their inability to handle any type o' criticizm. That said there are some really good guys on here too but very much in the minority fraid to say.

They are the Kool-Aid drinkers.

LOL - you are so right !!

Oh, sjlocke, is that how it works? You dare criticize our process and we put your entire life on scrutiny and try to dig out anything we can and terrorize you, since you 'had it coming'?

Really? You know who else uses that philosophy? -SCIENTOLOGY, maybe you should go read some more books from your buddy L.Ron Hubbard ...

I apologize.

Bumbles Bounce!   

if the site is that unprofessional, you probably dont want to be there anyway....

in general, i dont bother much with rejections -- i just note the reason if it's something i can fix [lighting, noise, etc] and move on if i cant [suitability, focus, etc].  it's not worth spending a lot of time to suit one site when the others are accepting it, and if multiple sites reject it, there's probably a reason! afteer awhile you realize some sites are obsessive about noise, others about focus, etc and you can act accordingly.

i've had an overall positive experience with questioning rejections -- it all depends on what you're asking - most sites will help explain the why of a rejection;  one site had started sending all rejections batched together with a long list of possible problems.  shortly after i asked for more details, they started separating the results - focus, suitability, etc.

about the only time i actually question a particular decision is when something is rejected for copyright or model release reasons;  in most cases i've had those images accepted after a 2nd review.

mainly, we need to be positive in asking about rejections -- it's in the MS site and our uinterest to reduce the number of rejections.  i've found just about all the sites are willing to work with you.

steve

well said.
also the negative effect will be on the newbies too.
i chose certain sites and rejected others due to what i read.
although i don't believe everything i read here either.

some may just be b/s..ing and never even had a sale.
that's normal in every forum. the ones who do, respond to your questions. the ones who don't ... are obvious trolls in every forum...
not just microstock.

it's a learning process anyway 

DanP68, didn't your mum tell you not to talk unless you have something to say? 

And thanks for stalking me on the forums and keeping track of all my posts, it makes me feel special I do worry about your social life though..

I have strong opinions and I express them strongly. I don't attack named people, unless challenged first, I attack nameless 'reviewers', corporate wheels, big corporations and the like.  I have a problem when people to whom the attack was not directed take personal issues with it, and start acting like brown nosed cronies.

Yes, I see something I don't like and I speak against it. Loud. What's wrong with it? It is called freedom of speech, unless you are living in the 'axis of evil' ) I do write mostly when I am pissed about something.  When everything is going alright, why write/complain?

And to throw my pictures to the mercy of vultures like you? No, thanks. The images that I so foolishly posted on that 'other' microstock group, and you and your buddies enjoyed yourselves poking holes at, actually all got accepted eventually and  are selling swell. So obviously you are not helpful, then why bother?

I did see a prank by a guy on one of the well known microstock forums when he posted a bestseller image and complained that it got rejected and asked for critique.  Of course, the good sheeple have immediately supported the 'reviewers' rejection and found a million things wrong with the image, including statements like 'this would never sell ' and 'this is not stock and worse'.  So no, no pics for you to whet your frustrations.

And for last, if my posts annoy you, simply ignore them - I ignore yours

I guess the bottom line is: stay away from microstock site's forums, you will never get any real help anyway and will be mercilessly attacked at the slightest negativity and sanctions imposed against you.  Thank god for the INDEPENDENT forums (and photographers

cheers!

Don't be ridiculous with the anonymity thing. So what it would mean to you if I told you my name is Mingyong Zheng? That argument was pulled on the 'other' microstock forum and by the owner of it, and guess what, he uses only his middle and last name there.

But I understand your point, you have no real arguments so you have to resort to ad-hominem attacks, just like your buddy Dan.

Show us your portfolio.  I don't believe for a second you have learned a thing since the Micropayment fiasco.  You attacked everyone who pointed out the reasons for your rejections there too.  My guess is there is zero improvement.  It would make sense, since you are still droning on, and on, and on about your anger with reviewers.

Let me just be sure I have all of this straight:

1)  The reviewers are wrong about your images
2)  The Micropayment board was wrong when they agreed with the reviewers
3)  All of the stock message boards are full of "Yes Men" to reviewers, and hence are out to get you
4)  We are wrong about your images

Is that all correct?