I have had some sales there.. Not the quantity like Alamy though.. Depends on what you shoot.. They are pretty commercial, if you shoot creative commercial style people shots you should be able to get some sales there..

They ask to Download form (of types of membership you want) and send initial sample images to their office address. I dont get it. How do they accept them- Online or by post ?

I'm with them through zoonar but I've given up bothering uploading to Zoorar as virtually no sales there.

+1 and Age seems to accepts everything from Zoonar (in my port in any case), so that will mean no sales at Age as well.

Quote from: fotografer on May 29, 2012, 06:56

I'm with them through zoonar but I've given up bothering uploading to Zoorar as virtually no sales there.

+1 and Age seems to accepts everything from Zoonar (in my port in any case), so that will mean no sales at Age as well.

But do you actually find any of your stuff on Age? Zoonar shows accepted on everything for me, too. But I cannot for the life of me find a single of those pictures on Age.

As someone who only recently started to upload on Age, I was wondering: In the unlikely event that something does sell, what kind of money can one expect? I know this is hard to say for regular RM, which can vary greatly - what I am interested in is the LBRF (where I have dumped much of my small micro portfolio). There appears to be nowhere on the site that says anything about the prices (and thus commissions) to expect.

Don't expect big money! 

Stefano
Travel Photographer

I wasn't - and was pleasantly surprised. Sold my first two images last month, one through their European (Spanish) main agency, one through the American office. Each brought in about 15 Euros, and one of them was a "Low Budget Royalty Free" image. That is not bad for micro!

i remember one needs to mail them a copy of contract with signature instead of apply online, is it still the same way?

i remember one needs to mail them a copy of contract with signature instead of apply online, is it still the same way?

yes you need to send signed contracts along with a copy of your ID proof through any courier or registered post. They are now paying through paypal also. And you need to send mail and then have to send original W-8BEN form and a copy of your residential certificate of your country to their Spain office to get any concession in tax. And to get EIN number to fill in W-8BEN form you need to fill W7 form. Bit complicated but Age people are good and quite supportive.

Agefotostock is an old, small, inefficient, badly managed and not very nice stock agency.
Same here, no sales compared to others (micro and macro with RF and RM stocks).

Not a wonder, the only thing they seem to want is to grab your pictures to increase their collections. They have been there since quite a long time, a bit like these old fashion shops that are completely outdated, they never make any sales. Everybody wonders how they survive....

The uploading is horrible. The contract binds you for 3 years (and under Spanish law...!), plus you have to send it by post to Spain (great). And you have to send a formal letter by snail post to make sure this contract is not renewed automatically for 3 years !! Again, the goal seems to be to grab your pictures.

To top it all, you can't remove your pictures once they are uploaded, there is no online mechanism for it (the website is archaic at best). When you ask them to remove pictures, the invoke the contract not to do it (nothing mentionned in this very dubious contract about images removal).

In short, if you make the mistake to sign with them, not only you'll sell nothing but you will have to check thoroughly what they really do with your images. Avoid the trap 

Hi Ed,

Sorry but, well, when you explain how the upload works there, it looks even more complicated  Who needs to download filezilla or use its website to upload pictures to a stock agency website in  2014 (except small Austrian agencies of course) ?

Welcome to the 21st century and electronic forms and contracts like other do (Alamy, Getty, Shutterstock etc...).

besides, how many "occasional" sales have you made compared to the time you have been with them and number of images online ?

Also, sales with other agencies who have a little more exposure are more around 50 to 300 $ than 38 cents, but again we have to compare apples with apples.

The only qualities they have are: they do RM, they don't ask for exclusivity (how could they, nobody know them). It's not a lot.

Nobody knows of AGE??? A truly respected agency that has been around for much longer than any microstock site. just sayin.

If AGE is this amazing selling agency why are they not even on the poll on the right? It cant be that 30k members of MSG dont know about AGE or it must be the best hidden gem on the planet.

It's not Micro.
Getty isn't on the list either.

When i joined MSG i wished to see Alamy in the poll(because Alamy was and is still now my one of mainstream stock income source)  but i was told that this forum is "Microstockgroup" and sales in alamy don't come regularly as in micro, so there is no use to include alamy in poll but now we see it has been included. So AGE can also be included, specially now when even AGE has a separate section LBRF (Low Budget RF) for micro images (one can not send his microstock images to regular RF section). So i guess AGE is not here in poll because i believe only few MSG active members are in AGE and there is probably no regular sales from age too. I have not sold any LBRF or RF there, just RM and that too very few BUT for good price.
Now i don't submit my images there now, probably because fewer sales compared to effort to submit images. But i really like age's admin, support team and some very gentle photographers working with Age. Very friendly and ready to help, any time.

The mentioning of RF confused me. Why is Alamy on the poll then?

IIRC, several people asked for it to be included.
There is an 'issue' however, whereby if iS exclusives poll their Alamy sales, it pushes their iS figures into indy, so I've stopped recording my Alamy sales, (puny as they are) on the poll.

Quote from: Ron on January 25, 2014, 03:09

If AGE is this amazing selling agency why are they not even on the poll on the right? It cant be that 30k members of MSG dont know about AGE or it must be the best hidden gem on the planet.

It's been around for almost 40 years, that should tell you something. No hidden secret. Been around since before Getty Images. You just need to get out of the microstock bubble.

What? And sell nothing? My images make more on my HD then in RM.

I have a few friends here in England who signed up with AGE and they tell me its the biggest waste of time ever. No sales at all, nothing.
From experience I know that when it comes to these types of agencies. Getty is the only one. Many people in the Getty house, are earning way past 10k per month.

I have a few friends here in England who signed up with AGE and they tell me its the biggest waste of time ever. No sales at all, nothing.
From experience I know that when it comes to these types of agencies. Getty is the only one. Many people in the Getty house, are earning way past 10k per month.

what kinda images can make over 10K per month, can you show us?

curiously!

Curiously what?
You think to become a milionaire with other photographic agencies?
You can if you have a stunning 4-digit portfolio probably but if you have only few pics you won't sale anything in any agency.
Anyway, if you don't sale you are not a good photographer ;-)

Quote from: grey1 on January 25, 2014, 07:42

I have a few friends here in England who signed up with AGE and they tell me its the biggest waste of time ever. No sales at all, nothing.

Probably they are not good photographers or they uploaded few dozens of photos so far and pretend to sale them after 2 minutes!
If you carefully see what a photographic agency wants and sells before complaining, you will discover that selling pics is not the most difficult job in the world!

No. One of these photographers have over 1900 images in files and he is in the process of leaving right now. Not one sale in over a year and he has also a very special portfolio. AGE can not sell, they have no self-promotion and they are stuck back in the 1980s.

Quote from: Ron on January 25, 2014, 03:09

If AGE is this amazing selling agency why are they not even on the poll on the right? It cant be that 30k members of MSG dont know about AGE or it must be the best hidden gem on the planet.

It's been around for almost 40 years, that should tell you something. No hidden secret. Been around since before Getty Images. You just need to get out of the microstock bubble.

I know some old fashion boutiques that have been in the village for 50 years, they sell outdated clothes to a handful of grandmothers and are still opened. Everybody in town wonder how they have survived so long until one day they are replaced by a grocery shop. 

Ok, they are not associated with microstock, while like all the others, they do microstock as well at the same level of pricing, but even then you can't compare them with Alamy, Corbis or Getty...

I agree with Ron, if they are so well know, why don't they appear nowhere ?

That's not what Ron said.
Ron said, specifically,  "If AGE is this amazing selling agency why are they not even on the poll on the right?"
and the answer is because they're not a micro agency.
No mystery there. There are any number of macro agencies not on the micro list.

Quote from: stefano on January 25, 2014, 07:52

Quote from: grey1 on January 25, 2014, 07:42

I have a few friends here in England who signed up with AGE and they tell me its the biggest waste of time ever. No sales at all, nothing.

Probably they are not good photographers or they uploaded few dozens of photos so far and pretend to sale them after 2 minutes!
If you carefully see what a photographic agency wants and sells before complaining, you will discover that selling pics is not the most difficult job in the world!

No. One of these photographers have over 1900 images in files and he is in the process of leaving right now. Not one sale in over a year and he has also a very special portfolio. AGE can not sell, they have no self-promotion and they are stuck back in the 1980s.

It is the reason why I wouldn't recommend them besides their other bizarre and archaic ways of doing business...

Quote from: luissantos84 on January 25, 2014, 07:54

curiously!

Curiously what?
You think to become a milionaire with other photographic agencies?
You can if you have a stunning 4-digit portfolio probably but if you have only few pics you won't sale anything in any agency.
Anyway, if you don't sale you are not a good photographer ;-)

"Anyway, if you don't sale you are not a good photographer ;-)".

What a definitive affirmation from a seasoned and international recognized award winning top notch photographer ! 

I hope you realise how wrong and comical your sentence is 

Quote from: arkadia56 on January 27, 2014, 13:44

I agree with Ron, if they are so well know, why don't they appear nowhere ?

That's not what Ron said.
Ron said, specifically,  "If AGE is this amazing selling agency why are they not even on the poll on the right?"
and the answer is because they're not a micro agency.
No mystery there. There are any number of macro agencies not on the micro list.

I am with Age under non-exclusive contract. I upload photos-RM,RF,LBRF and videos-LBRF. It took me few months, but after I uploaded several hundred images, I have got a few sales every month. Agefotostock is friendly agency with very easy upload 

It took you few month tu upload photos-RM,RF,LBRF and videos-LBRF ?   Looks really like an easy upload  ...

If you know almost nothing about age, what exactly is the purpose of your comments ?

I know why Age isn't on the list on the right. That's not rocket science.
I have a large list of photo agencies, mostly macros [1]. Do you want to start a demand for agencies few here are on to be added to the list?

Did you join microstock group just to complain about a macro agency?

You are entitled to your views of micro / macro, but they're not shared by everyone, though Alamy seems to straddle the divide confusingly on the way down, and iS exclusive prices on the way up.

[1] To clarify, I have a list. I don't supply them!

Quote from: Ed on January 24, 2014, 19:49

Nobody know them?  LOL....I suspect this is a personal vendetta of some sort.  You do realize that Alfonso (CEO of AGE) is president of CEPIC?

I agree with Ron, if they are so well know, why don't they appear nowhere ? According to Wikipedia, the president of the Cepic is    Christina Vaughan not Alfredo...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CEPIC

Wikipedia is incorrect - it's a crowd sourced portal...crowd sourcing doesn't always get things right 

http://www.cepic.org/news/cepic_news/2013/07/alfonsos_introductory_speech_cepic_congress_barcelona_2013

http://www.cepic.org/about_us/cepic_committee

AGE is good agency. One of the last mom and pop run agencies out there. I wouldn't worry about their credibility. As for how your images got there. Likely a sub agent agreement with one of you other agencies.

What you explain sounds odd but sure has an explanation or a reason. I have been with age fotostock for more than 20 years (they have been in the business since 1973...) and never have had any problems. I have had good years and not so good ones too, but they are solid and do their work with a lot less fanfare than most of these newbies. There are different people there but Raquel is their Photographers Liaison, she is great, professional, and very knowledgeable in photography (more than most photographers actually), and knows the business really well. Write to her, newbielink:mailto:[email protected] [nonactive]. Good luck!!   

Have had ok sales with Age.  The good point is that when you get a sale return is better than MicrostockGroup per sale.

Easy to upload so keep on uploading.

very old thread alert...... last post before this was 2016 and it originally started 2011!

I've been with AGE since 2010.  They were my best sellers when I started out, making $200 per month with less than 1000 photos.  Then, sometime around 2014 it came to a grinding halt.  Now I have close to 3000 photos, but make 1 or 2 sales.  The money is better per sale (average $20 persale), but the sales are fewer.  If I make 2 sales per month, that is good.  Though in 2018, I sold a photo that appeared in a national auto ad and netted $1000!!!  Crazy, is that they could have bought the same photo on SS or IS or DT for much less.

I still contribute, as the upload process is a breeze, just copy and paste into their ftp.  Their acceptance practice is...odd.  When I started out, they accepted over 90% of my work.  Now, I'll be lucky is they take 33%.  And they don't give a reason for the rejection.  IDK if the quality is bad or if they are oversaturated in a subject.  I would like to know so that I don't upload similars, or re-examine my photo, as it may be a correctable mistake.

Crazy, is that they could have bought the same photo on SS or IS or DT for much less.

Guess, crazy is how other agencies dropped the high earning operation to chase the countless asset libraries or the get as more as you can dl subscription schemes...