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stormchaser


« Reply #25 on: September 11, 2008, 20:15 »

Definitely too bad. But from the beginning, they rejected some top notch pro level stock from a few shooters I know in favour of the "contemporary" model. So photos of tatooed snakman picking his nose gets in, sustainable and excellent travel shots cast aside. Just to push the envelope a bit, I shot noodles in an old dirty pot. That made it through. My friend's steam locomotive with killer sunset did not.

I have no bias against a contemporary model, because a photo done well can sell no matter what the subject, aand I like edgy stuff, but to cast aside proven sellers from shooters with a track record not a wise idea


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« Reply #26 on: September 11, 2008, 20:53 »

Definitely sucks.  I really liked the site and the imagery they had.  Definite bummer...


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Fred


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« Reply #27 on: September 12, 2008, 01:20 »


Seems to tell me that the industry cannot support higher commissions.  You either give the money to the contributors or use it for marketing.  Sacrificing marketing for happier contributors just may not be economically feasible. 

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Seren



« Reply #28 on: September 12, 2008, 01:38 »


Seems to tell me that the industry cannot support higher commissions.  You either give the money to the contributors or use it for marketing.  Sacrificing marketing for happier contributors just may not be economically feasible. 

fred

There are plenty of agencies paying higher commissions that have been doing so for the last thirty years.

It's just frankly most "photographers" would never make those agencies, because they only take one a handful of new shooters a year.  And when I say handful I mean less than ten.

Although the agency I've decided to go with for my general stock pays 60%, and the agency I'm having a portfolio interview with next month for my kayaking work pays a little over 70%.

They are out there, but they are specialist.  And you must know both your trade and your market.


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leaf
« Reply #29 on: September 12, 2008, 02:15 »

Vincet Laforet had an interesting post today on the closing of photoshelter

link here


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sharply_done


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« Reply #30 on: September 12, 2008, 03:56 »

Vincet Laforet had an interesting post today on the closing of photoshelter
Interesting, yes, but heavily biased. As I suspected, the decision to 'pack it in' was related to funding. The ultimate reason for their closure was ar poor business model, in which their attitude towards microstock pricing (i.e. ignore it rather than compete with it) played a dominant role.

As far as all the 'this sucks' and 'I was hoping they'd make it' comments go, don't you people realize you had a hand in this by participating in the microstock market? You can't have it both ways.

They never grasped the impact microstock has had on this industry, and were in for a long, uphill battle ...
Yep. The saddest part of this may be that their now ex-CEO still doesn't get it.


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« Reply #31 on: September 12, 2008, 06:27 »

As far as all the 'this sucks' and 'I was hoping they'd make it' comments go, don't you people realize you had a hand in this by participating in the microstock market? You can't have it both ways.

Yes, people who have the same RF images at micros and PSC (like you I think, right?) aren't helping.   

I think the more relevant question is why are we all submitting to micros? Probably because most of us don't have the credentials to get accepted at Getty or Corbis. I think most of us would rather be making hundreds or thousands of dollars per sale and a good annual return. So that being the case I think the bigger sites had more of a hand in this by not seeing the trend earlier. They could have influenced the trend by more aggressively recruiting sub-pro photographers who could produce saleable images comparable to what's on Getty/Corbis. They started to with Istock and are now cherrypicking at Flickr. Kind of late to the party aren't they?


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« Reply #32 on: September 12, 2008, 14:46 »

I had only a few images there, but I still spent a lot of hours on processing, uploading, waiting and, not least, keywording, which was a lengthy process at best. I feel sorry for the substantial amount of people who uploaded hundreds of images, all for nothing. The people at PSC managed to whip up a mass anger at the whole microstock business, in the process convincing an army of photographers that their work was worth as much as that of the pros. The most realistic scenario now is that PhotoShelter will manage to convince the same people that they will make lots of money if they buy storage space at their site. They will probably provide a seamless migration from PSC to the PhotoShelter archives. I’m leaving that site for good.


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« Reply #33 on: September 12, 2008, 14:54 »

I've looked at the PS Archive and it seems over-priced to me. 


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