Mooaaannn canon 500D

Suljo

« on: February 12, 2010, 19:35 »

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Eh
Dont ask me why I now have can 500D. One person owing me about 1000USD for about year but he dont has any cash so I suggest him to by me something for that value from his credit card. Yes I want to convert to Nikon D90 but in my country believe me or not its just not possible because master agent company for Nikon dont have any model which is in my interest. They have one model of point of shoot model an one 60D??? and they are MASTER agent for Nikon so I decide to catch this Can 500D.
Problem is this that I have old non Intel G4 Mac and CS2.
For my old 350D its all OK setup.
But for now I realize that new 500D I must buy new crappy MAC with INTEL processor and stupid CS4 from Adobe???
OK
I can by upgrade CS2 to CS4 for 700USD (for just opening new CR2 files from that camera? Huh

) but my nightmare dont end with that because I cant install CS4 on Non Intel machine???

So in my case is not double trouble rather tripple trouble.
First for buying new camera (in my case is like gift)
Second I cant open CR2 files on CS2 Photoshop and must buy CS4
Third Must buy new or refubish stupid Intel Mac how to be able to instal fcin CS4 just for opening CR2 files? Huh

?

So who is guilty now?
All of them
Canon who dont make plug in for old versions of photoshop (they only have they own tool but its not suitable for managing similar setups).
Adobe who dont make they for now wanabe standard format for RAW filesDMG for they "older" versions which are difference about 5% from nevest ones and now they are blackmailing producers of cameras.
MAC hm OK they decide to switch to Intel.

Who suffers in this case?
I, io, me...

Mooaannnnnnn

(headbang)
Angry

Anybody similar problems???


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Susan S.

« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2010, 19:59 »

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Two possible free solutions - neither are brilliant but they help a bit. Canon's DPP program is much better than it used to be, it's free and works on non-intel macs. Second get Adobe's DNG converter, (also works on non-intel macs) convert the RAW files to DNG and then use CS2 to process the RAW files. I used methods both with a new camera for a couple of months until I could afford CS4 and it works reasonably well as a stop gap.

Unfortunately upgrading camera/computer/image processors have to be done in a co-ordinated fashon and yes it gets expensive. (especially outside the US where the distribution agents for all of the above gouge prices far above what Americans have to pay)


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crazychristina

« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2010, 20:46 »

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Might this help? Probably allow output to tiff or similar.


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Suljo

« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2010, 21:00 »

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Canon converter is OK but its not for processing photos from same batch.
I must to say that I dont try Adobes DNG converter, in my first search I found that is DNG converter cost 90USD or something like that. Also I can see that it is available for PhotoshopElements which you can gave it with ultra bad scanner, but I am so suspicious how this DNG converter works with PhotoShopElements eg. multiple batches in first place.
If Elements cant handle that in this case they are simmilar as DNG converter from Canon itself!?


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Suljo

« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2010, 21:15 »

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Quote from: averil on February 12, 2010, 20:46

Might this help? Probably allow output to tiff or similar.

THNX Averil I know for this tools from few years ago.
All tools are OK but main problem is that I almost shoot same photo as bracketing or multiple panorama shoots. (e.g. because of my old crappy camera and how to combine multiple shoots to have acceptable resolution for Alamy)
I just want to say that producers of hardware and software are screwing us from time to time as like as stock or microstock agencies.


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Susan S.

« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2010, 00:12 »

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Quote from: Suljo on February 12, 2010, 21:00

You can batch convert from DPP easily enough (apparently - I never have). Adobe's DNG converter is a free download - you just batch convert all the RAW files into DNG format (it's just drag and drop on the Mac) and then continue on with your normal workflow in Photoshop CS2 using the DNG files rather than the RAW ones. Elements has a cut down version of Adobe's RAW converter, so you need to check whether or not it can do what you need it to.


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Suljo

« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2010, 00:28 »

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Quote from: Susan S. on February 13, 2010, 00:12

Quote from: Suljo on February 12, 2010, 21:00

I know that Adobe with its DNG format wants to blackmail all producers of cameras to complain they own DGN format but...
Can you post me the link of that free DNG free installer for CS2...
If it is "free"as you say...


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« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2010, 02:51 »

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Suljo, as you I have CS2 and the CR2 don't work. But there was software included with my new Canon 5D and that works well to convert CR2. It doesn't have the fancy Adobe things like "clearness" but since I want 100% on your favorite site iStock Wink

, I just like minimal interference with my shots.

It was on the CD that came with the camera, and it's called 'Digital Photo Professional'. It can set exposure/light/lens correction, like CA. I export the result as 16 bit TIFF, then import in CS2. It works fine for me. Sometimes, when the image is HDR, I export 2 TIFF files, one with lower exposure, one with higher. In CS2, I mix them in 2 layers with selective soft brush erase where the lights are blown out.


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Susan S.

« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2010, 04:18 »

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Quote from: Suljo on February 13, 2010, 00:28

Quote from: Susan S. on February 13, 2010, 00:12

Quote from: Suljo on February 12, 2010, 21:00

http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=4619

It's free. Why would I say anything but the truth? Adobe's non upgrade of the RAW plug in for old versions of Photoshop bugs me as much as the next person. I'm no Adobe apologist. I just use their products because they are the industry standard.

And as FD-Amateur says Canon's DPP works really well - although it won't recover blown highlights as well as Adobe Camera RAW it gives very good colour and cleaner shadow areas than Adobe's RAW converters for all the Canon cameras I've tried it with.


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Suljo

« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2010, 13:32 »

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THNX
both solutions works with the DNG converter and canon application (which is not familiar to me yet).
Why is DNG format smaller than original CR2?
DNG = 14 MB
CR2 = 17 MB
I hope that this dont produce additional artifacts...


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