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« on: April 13, 2009, 20:15 »
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Hello Photographers,

I am launching a series of photographer educational seminars and products. The first  4 Week Teleseminar course starts tomorrow. It is heavily discounted because it is the first one I am doing. Please check it out if this might be something you are interested in and if for nothing else, get the free report and mp3 featured on the site.

http://PhotographyBusinessSecrets.com/

http://photosecrets.wordpress.com/2009/04/03/call-to-action-announcing-4-week-teleseminar-course/


More to come soon.
Beate Chelette

P.S. As a side note after I just read the first charming comment of "oh no". For whatever it's worth it. I made millions for the photographers I represented, worked for and with. I know this stuff. Before you trash my services, ideas and products at least READ or LISTEN to the free material and then tell me you don't need to know how to run the business behind the art. Makes me shake my head in disbelief. In this economy every tip, trick or secret is worth checking out. But then, it's not for everyone.

The series features Leah Shoval Photo Art Director from Ogilvy, Andrew Eccles renowed portrait and celebrity photographer, Chris Bain Photography Director from Barnes & Noble.
« Last Edit: April 13, 2009, 20:38 by photosecrets »


« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2009, 20:24 »
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More to come soon.


No...please no...

« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2009, 20:38 »
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Surely people don't really fall for such baloney?

« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2009, 20:58 »
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Anyone with such a cheesy looking come-on site deserves a few "oh-nos"...  Especially with big words like "SECRETS" and "SUCCESS".

"Discover The Photosecrets Of The Pros and Learn How To Make Money In Photography "

BTW, "Pro's" does not need an apostrophe.  It's a plural.

« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2009, 21:05 »
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Sorry about the typo, English is my second language, I try but ever so often a spelling mistake slips in. Excellent point about the look and feel of the site. That is part of what I teach. Unfortunately good looking sites in the information marketing or social marketing world as of today don't work, these types of sites do. I wished it wasn't so but it is. Hence I use the templates that are proven to work with the words "secrets" and "success" both to be known to be positive trigger words. Brilliant observation!  ::)

« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2009, 21:22 »
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Hey, if those kind of pages bring in the type of people you want to do business with, great.  Although, I can't imagine those types would be easily able to part with $595.  However, around here, we've seen enough come-on-get-rich-quick-with-photography "seminars" or "ebooks" that we tend to not take them very seriously.  Especially from a new member with no history here.

« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2009, 23:40 »
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Well the shameless part is right! For a small fee I will teach you the secrets of success to selling beach front property in Nevada ;)

« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2009, 23:59 »
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Sigh. Like in Eleanor Rigby: All those stupid people, where do they all come from? What's next? A Nigerian banker with a deceased uncle, a virgin from Elbonia fell in love with my underwear shots on Facebook, or a secret and successful method for guaranteed p@n@s enlargement?  ::)


Xalanx

« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2009, 00:03 »
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Hm, in the video - is that your livingroom? Or bedroom?  :o

« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2009, 00:04 »
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I'm going door to door to make you this incredible offer...

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jl3cKWuJVc" target="_blank" class="aeva_link bbc_link new_win">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jl3cKWuJVc</a>


« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2009, 00:04 »
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Hm, in the video - is that your livingroom? Or bedroom?  :o

A dirty mind is a joy forever  ;D

Xalanx

« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2009, 00:11 »
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Hm, in the video - is that your livingroom? Or bedroom?  :o

A dirty mind is a joy forever  ;D

I was trying an analytical approach to her video.
No offense, but I'd hire a good looking spokeswoman, I'm more than positive that at least 80% of the male photographers of this site will take a look. I promise I'll even put my headphones on to actually hear the sound.

« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2009, 03:13 »
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Hi,

couple of questions:

- are you Beate Chelette, former senior director of photography at Corbis?
- regarding your (honestly, really garish) website, when you say "Unfortunately good looking sites in the information marketing or social marketing world as of today don't work, these types of sites do" are you saying that, or is the McTemplate "internet marketing guru"  you hired saying that?

Honestly that site undermines whatever credibility and professional weight you may have.  I think from a business point of view you have to decide whether you want to be a legitimate consultant or a bottom-feeder. Also, I think your price point ($197) is wrong for the type of saturation campaign you're running.

« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2009, 05:12 »
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Hi Beate, I am sure you have some interesting stuff to share but in the day and age of free podcast and vodcasts I am not sure how successful your idea is.
Why not try this direction of free stuff through itunes and get some sponsers. Examples are this week in photography, photoshop tv, pro photo show etc.

« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2009, 05:50 »
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I'd love to hear the free info, but there is no link anywhere where the videos are. So where are they? If you want my postal home address, no thanks. Just put a link online to the free material so we can judge.

vonkara

« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2009, 09:31 »
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Discover How To Quickly and Easily

Learn the Business Secrets of Professional Photographers

& Have an Exciting

Career In Photography!!
A real pro would know that there's already tons of "Make easy money with photography" " Don't even work and take life easy by making money with photography" and also " Be the laziest person in the world and be rich like Bill Gates" ... website already. Everything seem to be very quick since the 21th century. Does it's a way of selling anything??

batman

« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2009, 09:58 »
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rofl, i'm speechless for once  ;D

i can't find anything to say here, as you ppl have already said it. shoot ! ;D

and thx cthoman for the youtube peewee link. gives me something to watch. my only problem is i don't know which is more fun: coming here or watching peewee  ;)
« Last Edit: April 14, 2009, 10:02 by batman »

« Reply #17 on: April 14, 2009, 12:18 »
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Geez you guys, you are hurting my feelings.

Glad you got to get it out just how frustrated you are with the state of photography. If I would be as judgmental or as negative - I would have never made it to where I am.

One of the traits that renowned photographers have, like a Helmut Newton and like a George Hurrell and like a Barry Lategan (whom you might not even know but who have all made contributions to photography) and most of other sucessful photographers such as an Andrew MacPherson, Greg Gorman, Tim Street Porter, Matthew Rolston or a Douglas Walker was that they are/were professionals, and I worked with each of them. They regarded everyone with an idea or a contribution as an equal and respect. To make it big in photography, whatever that might mean for you: fame, money, exhibits, books - you need to remain a professional at all times. Before you tell someone to get lost, make sure you know that your paths never will cross - because you just don't know where they end up and your success could depend on their opinion somewhere down the road.

In my career I have treated every photographer with great respect, irrespective of what their work, portfolio or ideas looked like. Many have followed my advice and many are now established working photographers. Others disagreed and went their own ways, that is just the way it goes. I can meet each of them and say hello without a sinking feeling that I was a jerk.

Being a successful Entrepreneur and business owner means that you need to continue to learn and absorb information. Your job is to figure out what clients want now and how business changes and you need to adjust your business model accordingly. I watched photography change - it is becoming a commodity. The rules changed like it or not.

I know about the business behind photography and I know what photographers need to do to make it. That is my expertise and my track record. I know how to make money in photography.

Yes, I am Beate Chelette, former owner of Beateworks, rep, producer and finally stock syndication owner for the worlds most recognized interior and architectural and celebrity@home archive. I made celebrity@home stories a worldwide brand and within three years my company became the worlds leader in this genre. We more or less opened it to mainstream syndication and we licensed into 76 countries. We were acquired by Corbis. I ran the integration personally in record time, trained everyone all over the world and all my photographers are still making lots of money and still talk to me. It went so well that I was offered the job to run the Global Entertainment division including Outline, the worlds most recognized celebrity brand.

Unless your success is equal to what I have accomplished....

But ultimately my heart beats to its own drum and I see great opportunity to educate photographers.

So my message to the sixteen derogatory comments: You must not be busy so stop wasting your time with silly, childish comments. You can do that or as it pertains to my stuff or other peoples stuff -  focus on the information you receive. Is there something, maybe just one thing you maybe able to use to run your photography business better? How do you know unless you at least check it out?

And if this is not for you, find something else that makes a positive impact on your business.




« Reply #18 on: April 14, 2009, 12:22 »
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In order to receive the free report and the audio file you have to go here and enter your name and email:

http://PhotographyBusinessSecrets.com

To read about events and photography related contests and exhibits go here:
http://Photosecrets.wordpress.com

Let me know if you have any other questions.
Beate

« Reply #19 on: April 14, 2009, 12:31 »
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Sorry, I don't see how were are supposed to know you are some famous and experienced businessperson when you come in here with a silly name like "photosecrets" and your "get rich quick" website, asking for money for your tips and secrets.

In the future, I'd suggest joining a community and getting to be a part of that community so people know you before you expect people to take you seriously with a promise of riches and secrets.  Don't expect us to research your life history and your friends list.

If anyone has the time to view the material, be sure to let us know what you think.

« Reply #20 on: April 14, 2009, 12:34 »
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In order to receive the free report and the audio file you have to go here and enter your name and email:

http://PhotographyBusinessSecrets.com

To read about events and photography related contests and exhibits go here:
http://Photosecrets.wordpress.com

Let me know if you have any other questions.
Beate


The Shutterstock Forum would be a better place to start a thread "shameless self promotion" Serious.

RT


« Reply #21 on: April 14, 2009, 16:29 »
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The Shutterstock Forum would be a better place to start a thread "shameless self promotion" Serious.
:D :D How very true.


Xalanx

« Reply #22 on: April 14, 2009, 16:32 »
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The Shutterstock Forum would be a better place to start a thread "shameless self promotion" Serious.
:D :D How very true.



There are some people there you can team up with for sure. Search for "workshop" on forums.

tan510jomast

« Reply #23 on: April 14, 2009, 16:44 »
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while I don't doubt your credentials , it 's not going to impress anyone, other than perharps some bright eyes youngster looking for a fast track to be a pro photographer,   coming in here with a heading saying , "Shameless Self Promo" and expect to take you seriously.  As for name dropping, the only name I recognized was that of Helmut Newton from his past works with Sigourney Weaver,etc...  If you could get Mr Newton to give you a reference, that could be helpful . Still , I don't feel this forum is the right place to be pandering (promoting) your service.
We are sort of like the little pub at Coronation St , or if you're american , sort of like Cheers in ole Boston, yknow !   Just having a good time along with our virtual Guinness. Not quite the place.

No offence meant, sir.. Mr Beate Chelette, former owner of Beateworks !
« Last Edit: April 14, 2009, 16:54 by tan510jomast »

batman

« Reply #24 on: April 14, 2009, 16:56 »
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The Shutterstock Forum would be a better place to start a thread "shameless self promotion" Serious.


you could try Flickr, or Facebook !!! or maybe give Getty a call .
After this one,
http://www.microstockgroup.com/site-related/ha-ha-ha-istock-photo-of-the-week/msg92341/?topicseen#new
they might need you to retrain some exclusives  ;D ;D ;D
« Last Edit: April 14, 2009, 16:58 by batman »


 

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