pancakes

MicrostockGroup Sponsors


Author Topic: 500px beside microstock ?  (Read 23070 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

« Reply #50 on: February 11, 2016, 12:56 »
+5
But they steal a lot less if there is a full frame professionell watermark. Try it on your own website, place images with no watermark, a tiny watermark or a full frame watermark and then do image searches 3 months later.

Many people have images with models, children and families or medical images, sensitive use content that you dont want to put somewhere without professional protection.

If it is just sunsets, beer and pizza, it doesnt matter so much, but if you are investing in your production, I really cannot imagine to upload without care.

But maybe I should try it with some simple content, just to understand their system, if it will take them anther year to resolve the problem. Perhaps there is something I can create where I dont care how it gets used.


« Reply #51 on: February 11, 2016, 13:37 »
+8
it dosent matter if you put a lot of time in your work or not....its your work it needs protection period. until the watermark issue is fixed they will see no photo of mine

« Reply #52 on: February 11, 2016, 13:44 »
+5
The watermark issue is the only thing preventing me from joining. 

« Reply #53 on: February 11, 2016, 14:35 »
+3
I'm on the fence on the issue.

As much as I hate to see my photos stollen by all those Russian and Chinese sites, I can imagine that a lot of customers, ready to pay big bucks, are attracted by the possibility to browse through a wonderful collection, full screen, and experience pre-purchase wow moments.
Watermarks are intrusive and often distract the viewer from a full emotional engagement with a picture.

Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk

« Last Edit: February 11, 2016, 14:52 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #54 on: February 11, 2016, 14:51 »
0
.

« Reply #55 on: February 11, 2016, 16:05 »
+1
This gets argued endlessly on the FAA forum. 

You can sell stock with a big watermark; but I think it kills 'art' sales and many agree.  Which is 500px?


« Reply #56 on: February 11, 2016, 16:07 »
+2
Ok, Ive added some files. Lovely app, very easy upload, but the watermark is basically invisible.

Ill see if I can develop a line of files where I am comfortable without the watermark.

No agency is perfect. If "no watermark" is their main selling point, then Ill just have to upload content with people elsewhere.

Although even with still life...I really love my files...to see them like this is very hard.
« Last Edit: February 11, 2016, 16:32 by cobalt »

« Reply #57 on: February 11, 2016, 17:16 »
+3
If I remember right, their previews are extremely large, and that's one reason I didn't go ahead with them.   

« Reply #58 on: February 11, 2016, 18:22 »
+1
I've just been to my first date with 500px - created an account, uploaded 2 photos.. You're all right, that watermark.. it took me ages of staring into my photo before I saw it, so tiny! Why even bother with watermark if it's hardly visible? :-[

And previews are gigantic indeed. I will continue to upload though, but I will be very selective with the content
« Last Edit: February 11, 2016, 18:28 by lanabyko »

« Reply #59 on: February 11, 2016, 18:27 »
+3
Probably just a legal formality. Whatever the lawyers need so they can claim it was "protected".

I feel so uncomfortable seeing my work like this. I wish they would give us the option of an artist friendly watermark. I could upload my own, but if everybody does their own thing it just looks bad. It should be a standard option for those that want it.


« Reply #60 on: February 11, 2016, 18:46 »
+3
Adding a "optional" center water mark should be quite simple to do.  I don't know why they don't want to give us the option.   

« Reply #61 on: February 11, 2016, 19:26 »
0
Are they connected to stockperformer?


« Reply #62 on: February 12, 2016, 11:52 »
+1
(...) people steal a lot less when there is professional watermark protection(...)

spot on, @Cobalt.

Quote
If it is just sunsets, beer and pizza, it doesnt matter so much (...)

well put, I kind-of like this line :) , you pretty much nailed it (even though I must confess to be a sunset-beer-and-pizza guy*) myself, but who were we to be if we cannot laugh about ourselves every now and then)...

Good one.

*) EDIT:  I meant photography-wise -- but wait a sec, actually also in real life ;)

Quote
Perhaps there is something I can create where I dont care how it gets used.
« Last Edit: February 12, 2016, 11:59 by stuttershock »

« Reply #63 on: February 12, 2016, 17:44 »
+2
I am still trying to figure out 500px... I upload mostly stuff that I do for fine art prints, since from community point of view this what people like and expect from this site. I have a following of more than 4,500 and get a lot of likes on some images. However, I've been told that from the sales point of view they need people and business images (like any stock agency), but then what interest those would be to the community? I have those in my portfolio too but it somehow feels wrong to upload them to 500px. I wish they had an option to submit images to 500prime only, why would I showcase images of people having a business meeting. Who wants to see that? :)

« Reply #64 on: February 12, 2016, 18:18 »
+1
I am still trying to figure out 500px... I upload mostly stuff that I do for fine art prints, since from community point of view this what people like and expect from this site. I have a following of more than 4,500 and get a lot of likes on some images. However, I've been told that from the sales point of view they need people and business images (like any stock agency), but then what interest those would be to the community? I have those in my portfolio too but it somehow feels wrong to upload them to 500px. I wish they had an option to submit images to 500prime only, why would I showcase images of people having a business meeting. Who wants to see that? :)

I don't get it either.   I think they've changed course a couple of times and now they don't have a clear identity or direction. Originally, they sold prints, which made sense for 'art' photos.  But they dropped prints. So why would I upload my best work if I can't even sell a print?  And like you say - who's interested in 'stock' photos?

It's a lot of work to upload hundreds of photos - especially if, like me, you only have 6mbs upstream.  Before I do that I need a pretty good idea of what the site is about and what my chances might be.   Thanks for refreshing my memory - I now remember going through this with 500px before and deciding it wasn't quite making sense.   I hope it actually does, though, and someone can explain why.

A lot of excitement in this thread in the last few days - because 1 guy said he made some big sales. Unfortunately he won't tell us what kind of photos they were...
« Last Edit: February 12, 2016, 18:28 by stockastic »

« Reply #65 on: February 12, 2016, 18:41 »
+3
... because 1 guy said he made some big sales. Unfortunately he won't tell us what kind of photos they were...

I didn't just say it, I showed examples.

But hey, feel free to feel miserable.
And after all, why would I encourage competition?
As I said, the only reason I shared my experience with this comunity was to show an example of an agency who does things differently, in a positive way. An agency who deserves encouragements.
Who is smart enough to listen, listens.

But if you only prefer doom and gloom stories, I sincerely apologize.



Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk
« Last Edit: February 12, 2016, 18:48 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #66 on: February 12, 2016, 18:47 »
0
I am a little confused about their direction as well. I did a lot of test searches and when you get past the first pages you see it is really more photo community than agency.

From a stock perspective loads of interesting stuff that brings in money is missing, especially good quality people stock, business and industrial useful files not just portraits of pretty people. Lots of beautiful nature and animals. Makes great prints, but wont sell a bank loan, an insurance etc..

All the other macro agencies have plenty of beautiful nature and portraits as well. High quality people stock, science, industry, localized lifestyle content, that is what is needed. People with technology, modern environments. The kind of pictures that are hard work and expensive to produce and no fun to shoot. And many useful images that bring in great money are ugly,especially in technology.

I think the lack of a professional watermark is a problem there. People who invest a lot of money into their productions, I really cant see them uploading without one, especially with exclusive content.


Maybe there could be a way that those who are more interested in the agency part could upload directly to the marketplace.

A lot of people are interested in backing a crowd sourced, high quality macro agency. They could develop it to be the first place stock artists send content to.

But they have to make it clear they really want to be an agency. The best, the biggest, the strongest.

You dont become Number One in the market by accident.

And we cant decide it for them. If they would rather be a smaller niche player, mostly community, then we cant change that.

So, Ill keep uploading, I am glad there is another opportunity to explore and we will see where they want to go.

ETA: I looked at the exclusive content on their marketplace. The store looks pretty empty on many searches (marketplace, exclusive images with people, commercial usage , "business" : 145 files)
« Last Edit: February 13, 2016, 07:38 by cobalt »


ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #67 on: February 12, 2016, 18:52 »
+1
Lots of beautiful nature and animals. Makes great prints, but wont sell a bank loan, an insurance etc.
You never know.
Investec has been using zebras in their advertising, particularly the huge banners in airports, for several years (and even have 'follow the zebra' as their strapline), e.g.:
https://www.investec.co.uk/about-investec/careers.html

« Reply #68 on: February 12, 2016, 19:28 »
0
... because 1 guy said he made some big sales. Unfortunately he won't tell us what kind of photos they were...

I didn't just say it, I showed examples.

But hey, feel free to feel miserable.
And after all, why would I encourage competition?
As I said, the only reason I shared my experience with this comunity was to show an example of an agency who does things differently, in a positive way. An agency who deserves encouragements.
Who is smart enough to listen, listens.

But if you only prefer doom and gloom stories, I sincerely apologize.

I must have missed something.  All I remember seeing was your post saying "I'm sorry, I can't do that without losing my anonymity. I hope you'll understand."

« Reply #69 on: February 12, 2016, 20:24 »
+1
... because 1 guy said he made some big sales. Unfortunately he won't tell us what kind of photos they were...

I didn't just say it, I showed examples.

But hey, feel free to feel miserable.
And after all, why would I encourage competition?
As I said, the only reason I shared my experience with this comunity was to show an example of an agency who does things differently, in a positive way. An agency who deserves encouragements.
Who is smart enough to listen, listens.

But if you only prefer doom and gloom stories, I sincerely apologize.

I must have missed something.  All I remember seeing was your post saying "I'm sorry, I can't do that without losing my anonymity. I hope you'll understand."
You missed the screen shot of the sale announcement email, indeed. I'm not just "saying". These large sales are real.

Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk
« Last Edit: February 12, 2016, 20:30 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #70 on: February 12, 2016, 20:53 »
+2
... because 1 guy said he made some big sales. Unfortunately he won't tell us what kind of photos they were...

I didn't just say it, I showed examples.

But hey, feel free to feel miserable.
And after all, why would I encourage competition?
As I said, the only reason I shared my experience with this comunity was to show an example of an agency who does things differently, in a positive way. An agency who deserves encouragements.
Who is smart enough to listen, listens.

But if you only prefer doom and gloom stories, I sincerely apologize.

I must have missed something.  All I remember seeing was your post saying "I'm sorry, I can't do that without losing my anonymity. I hope you'll understand."
You missed the screen shot of the sale announcement email, indeed. I'm not just "saying". These large sales are real.

Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk

All I saw was the announcement that you'd made $175 on a sale.  Nothing about the actual photo. 
I don't doubt that the sale occurred, I'm trying to figure out if 500px is selling 'stock' or 'art'.

« Reply #71 on: February 13, 2016, 06:27 »
+1
And at the same time stocksy is selling like crazy and they have an artist friendly watermark.

Doesn't seem to stop the buyers.

We will see how 500pix develops, but at the moment their direction is not clear for me.

It would be great to have crowd based macrostock site. I like their public gallery system very much. It is a good step towards crowd curation.
« Last Edit: February 13, 2016, 07:37 by cobalt »

« Reply #72 on: February 13, 2016, 10:49 »
0
And at the same time stocksy is selling like crazy and they have an artist friendly watermark.

Doesn't seem to stop the buyers.

We will see how 500pix develops, but at the moment their direction is not clear for me.

It would be great to have crowd based macrostock site. I like their public gallery system very much. It is a good step towards crowd curation.

I don't think it works, in reality.  Everybody wants to sell, nobody really wants to spend time looking at other people's work.  To get them to do that you have to tie search rank to popularity, and that leads to intensive 'gaming' of the system.  I see that on FAA and Crated. 

authenticcreations

« Reply #73 on: February 13, 2016, 10:50 »
0
Just a question to ZeroTalent. Are your photos on 500px exclusive?  ::)

« Reply #74 on: February 13, 2016, 11:01 »
0
Just a question to ZeroTalent. Are your photos on 500px exclusive?  ::)
No, they are not.

Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk



 

Related Topics

  Subject / Started by Replies Last post
1 Replies
2167 Views
Last post September 08, 2014, 09:43
by Tror
2 Replies
1577 Views
Last post January 15, 2015, 09:37
by Mantis
500px

Started by nitrus « 1 2 3  All » New Sites - General

54 Replies
11364 Views
Last post March 12, 2015, 03:31
by hofhoek
19 Replies
2993 Views
Last post April 27, 2015, 08:01
by Mantis
14 Replies
2958 Views
Last post October 16, 2015, 03:38
by PZF

Sponsors

Microstock Poll Results