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« Reply #175 on: July 24, 2014, 14:43 »
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Well... an hour ago I was setting up my images licencing on 500px prime and I wondered how hard it is to sell anything here...
Few minutes ago my friend just told me he sold one for $175! He doesn't sell much anywhere so this is double surprising! Nice to know it works so good  :D

Ps. Alex, are you the one who popped up in chat form on 500px site and scared me?  ;D


« Reply #176 on: July 24, 2014, 14:45 »
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Well... an hour ago I was setting up my images licencing on 500px prime and I wondered how hard it is to sell anything here...
Few minutes ago my friend just told he sold one for $175! He doesn't sell much anywhere so this is double surprising! Nice to know it works so good  :D

Ps. Alex, are you the one who popped up in chat form on 500px site and scared me?  ;D

That's great to hear! We're having a lot of success with Prime, and we hope you'll all be a part of it. Cheers, thanks for sharing.

Edit: Yes, that was me on chat ;-)

« Reply #177 on: July 24, 2014, 14:56 »
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"In order to harness 500px Prime's success and maximize commercial opportunities for our community we are focusing on royalty-free and rights managed photography licenses"

Hello:

Any more information if there is a plan for marketing Rights Managed images in the inmediate future?? That would be very interesting for an Istock exclusive like me. 500px has a beautiful collection. I am a recent member and it's great to see a lot of variety and amazing images impossible to see on any of the micros.

« Reply #178 on: July 25, 2014, 08:10 »
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"In order to harness 500px Prime's success and maximize commercial opportunities for our community we are focusing on royalty-free and rights managed photography licenses"

Hello:

Any more information if there is a plan for marketing Rights Managed images in the inmediate future?? That would be very interesting for an Istock exclusive like me. 500px has a beautiful collection. I am a recent member and it's great to see a lot of variety and amazing images impossible to see on any of the micros.

Right now all photos on Prime are RF. We have a RM type license coming soon for web/social media quality images (one time use, lower resolution) and are open to exploring other RM licenses down the road too.

« Reply #179 on: July 25, 2014, 08:19 »
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Is there and opportunities for payment through Skrill or Payoneer ?

« Reply #180 on: July 25, 2014, 08:55 »
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Is there and opportunities for payment through Skrill or Payoneer ?

No, I haven't even heard of those actually! Haha, right now it's Paypal or cheque only.

« Reply #181 on: August 27, 2014, 21:46 »
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"In order to harness 500px Prime's success and maximize commercial opportunities for our community we are focusing on royalty-free and rights managed photography licenses"

Hello:

Any more information if there is a plan for marketing Rights Managed images in the inmediate future?? That would be very interesting for an Istock exclusive like me. 500px has a beautiful collection. I am a recent member and it's great to see a lot of variety and amazing images impossible to see on any of the micros.

Right now all photos on Prime are RF. We have a RM type license coming soon for web/social media quality images (one time use, lower resolution) and are open to exploring other RM licenses down the road too.


What is the status of the RM type license?     

« Reply #182 on: August 28, 2014, 03:27 »
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What is the status of the RM type license?   

It's launched and available. All photos submitted to Prime are available for both license options automatically. Look for the $50 Web/Social option on any photo. For example: https://prime.500px.com/photos/46424674

« Reply #183 on: August 28, 2014, 05:59 »
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What is the status of the RM type license?   

It's launched and available. All photos submitted to Prime are available for both license options automatically. Look for the $50 Web/Social option on any photo. For example: https://prime.500px.com/photos/46424674


Somehow I doubt that is what most photographers consider a real option for an RM license.    Let me get this straight.  The 2 licenses 500px is offering are an incredibly expansive RF exclusive license with no expiration or the web/social license which is RM literally but not in any common sense manner to a stock photographer.    I don't understand this at all.  In the world I sell stock photos you can sell an image as RF or RM exclusive or RM non-exclusive.   I am trying to fathom how this is going to get photographers to submit more work to your site.   Or how it is going to help the photo buyer that say wants to use a photo for a quarter page or spot use in a limited run book or a calendar.  The web social license doesn't cover that, nor are they ever going to license that photo through one of your RF licenses for $250 when they can go elsewhere for a $100-$200 non-exclusive RM license.  I am trying to understand the logic here. 

Also, what is going on with 500pxart?  There is a statement saying that as of Aug. 23rd it is going away and that prints will be bought through prime via some method that allows the buyer to download a high rezz file to take to a printer.   

Photo buyers AND photo sellers need a variety of options.   As someone who sells photos I ask myself how and why if I was a buyer would I license a photo through 500prime?  The licenses you offer only apply in a limited number of situations for which I, if I were a photo buyer need to purchase photo uses.  I am trying to make sense of why 500px is handling things in this manner. 

« Reply #184 on: August 28, 2014, 08:52 »
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What is the status of the RM type license?   

It's launched and available. All photos submitted to Prime are available for both license options automatically. Look for the $50 Web/Social option on any photo. For example: https://prime.500px.com/photos/46424674


Somehow I doubt that is what most photographers consider a real option for an RM license.    Let me get this straight.  The 2 licenses 500px is offering are an incredibly expansive RF exclusive license with no expiration or the web/social license which is RM literally but not in any common sense manner to a stock photographer.    I don't understand this at all.  In the world I sell stock photos you can sell an image as RF or RM exclusive or RM non-exclusive.   I am trying to fathom how this is going to get photographers to submit more work to your site.   Or how it is going to help the photo buyer that say wants to use a photo for a quarter page or spot use in a limited run book or a calendar.  The web social license doesn't cover that, nor are they ever going to license that photo through one of your RF licenses for $250 when they can go elsewhere for a $100-$200 non-exclusive RM license.  I am trying to understand the logic here. 

Also, what is going on with 500pxart?  There is a statement saying that as of Aug. 23rd it is going away and that prints will be bought through prime via some method that allows the buyer to download a high rezz file to take to a printer.   

Photo buyers AND photo sellers need a variety of options.   As someone who sells photos I ask myself how and why if I was a buyer would I license a photo through 500prime?  The licenses you offer only apply in a limited number of situations for which I, if I were a photo buyer need to purchase photo uses.  I am trying to make sense of why 500px is handling things in this manner.

That's correct. We offer 2 licenses, and the $50 option is technically a RM license, but is a bit different from the usual RM terms some photographers are used to. Prime isn't going to be a perfect fit for everyone. Some stock photographers who have an established RM business already may not find Prime works for them right now, but maybe it will in the future.

500px Art is going away, and we've begun phasing it out already. As of right now, it's still available at 500pxArt.com, but we're beginning to remove references to it from 500px.com. We don't have a definite End Of Life date yet, but will announce when we do.

We're working closely with our buyers and photographers to learn about what options they want, and to offer them. The feedback from you guys is amazing, so keep it coming! Thank you!

« Reply #185 on: August 28, 2014, 10:19 »
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Somehow I doubt that is what most photographers consider a real option for an RM license.    Let me get this straight.  The 2 licenses 500px is offering are an incredibly expansive RF exclusive license with no expiration or the web/social license which is RM literally but not in any common sense manner to a stock photographer.    I don't understand this at all.  In the world I sell stock photos you can sell an image as RF or RM exclusive or RM non-exclusive.   I am trying to fathom how this is going to get photographers to submit more work to your site.   Or how it is going to help the photo buyer that say wants to use a photo for a quarter page or spot use in a limited run book or a calendar.  The web social license doesn't cover that, nor are they ever going to license that photo through one of your RF licenses for $250 when they can go elsewhere for a $100-$200 non-exclusive RM license.  I am trying to understand the logic here. 

Also, what is going on with 500pxart?  There is a statement saying that as of Aug. 23rd it is going away and that prints will be bought through prime via some method that allows the buyer to download a high rezz file to take to a printer.   

Photo buyers AND photo sellers need a variety of options.   As someone who sells photos I ask myself how and why if I was a buyer would I license a photo through 500prime?  The licenses you offer only apply in a limited number of situations for which I, if I were a photo buyer need to purchase photo uses.  I am trying to make sense of why 500px is handling things in this manner.
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That's correct. We offer 2 licenses, and the $50 option is technically a RM license, but is a bit different from the usual RM terms some photographers are used to. Prime isn't going to be a perfect fit for everyone. Some stock photographers who have an established RM business already may not find Prime works for them right now, but maybe it will in the future.

500px Art is going away, and we've begun phasing it out already. As of right now, it's still available at 500pxArt.com, but we're beginning to remove references to it from 500px.com. We don't have a definite End Of Life date yet, but will announce when we do.

We're working closely with our buyers and photographers to learn about what options they want, and to offer them. The feedback from you guys is amazing, so keep it coming! Thank you!
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You need to worry more about making a good fit for buyers.   It is not a matter of photographers having an established RM business or not.  What is important is providing a significant segment of photo buyers with the licenses they need.  You fail to do that with you current offerings.   You are appealing to a very small part of the photo buying market.  Most buyers looking for RF have no interest in your $250 inclusive license.  I know, because I have asked dozens and dozens of experienced stock buyers over the months since it was introduced.    I have yet to find one that likes your RF license.  I am sure you will tell me that the offering is doing well.   If it is then why can't I find a single stock photo buyer that thinks it represents a good value across the board?  The most praise I heard was that in very limited circumstances would they find that a good deal.  The majority of the time they want either a lower price, less inclusive RF offering or a RM license of lower cost for that specific one time use.   

« Reply #186 on: August 28, 2014, 10:23 »
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You need to worry more about making a good fit for buyers.   It is not a matter of photographers having an established RM business or not.  What is important is providing a significant segment of photo buyers with the licenses they need.  You fail to do that with you current offerings.   You are appealing to a very small part of the photo buying market.  Most buyers looking for RF have no interest in your $250 inclusive license.  I know, because I have asked dozens and dozens of experienced stock buyers over the months since it was introduced.    I have yet to find one that likes your RF license.  I am sure you will tell me that the offering is doing well.   If it is then why can't I find a single stock photo buyer that thinks it represents a good value across the board?  The most praise I heard was that in very limited circumstances would they find that a good deal.  The majority of the time they want either a lower price, less inclusive RF offering or a RM license of lower cost for that specific one time use.   

Totally agree. Remember, Prime is very new, we only launched in March. We're learning what buyers want and working to introduce more options. I'm just customer support, and I don't make these business decisions, but I'll share your feedback with the team that does. Cheers!

« Reply #187 on: August 29, 2014, 08:35 »
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Good news is I got an RF sale there and only have thirty or so test images up. Bad news is that the sale is still listed as pending a week later. Any idea how long it takes to get the payout after making the sale?

« Reply #188 on: August 29, 2014, 08:52 »
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Good news is I got an RF sale there and only have thirty or so test images up. Bad news is that the sale is still listed as pending a week later. Any idea how long it takes to get the payout after making the sale?

Sales remain pending for 45 days, to allow time for payments to be settled and processed.

« Reply #189 on: August 29, 2014, 20:58 »
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Alex, if a photographer does upload to prime and offer the image via the RF license model can he pull the image out of prime at a later date.  Some entities have a certain amount of time that an image must be left up to avoid people popping images on and off for short periods.  I ask this because I want to know if after 6 months or a year if an image has had no action on 500prime but say a personal client wants to use if for a traditional RM license can I remove it from 500prime?

I don't forsee this happening much if at all.  Just want to know what my options are. 

« Reply #190 on: August 29, 2014, 21:16 »
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Alex, if a photographer does upload to prime and offer the image via the RF license model can he pull the image out of prime at a later date.  Some entities have a certain amount of time that an image must be left up to avoid people popping images on and off for short periods.  I ask this because I want to know if after 6 months or a year if an image has had no action on 500prime but say a personal client wants to use if for a traditional RM license can I remove it from 500prime?

I don't forsee this happening much if at all.  Just want to know what my options are.

Totally, you can remove it at anytime. Just beware that since our sales team may be working on sales in the background, we retain the right to sell your image within 45 days after you've removed it. This will be fairly rare, but it's just incase we're working on a deal with a buyer at the time that you remove the photos. Cheers!

« Reply #191 on: September 04, 2014, 22:58 »
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Alex, is there a way to upload a series of images and select one for public profile/viewing while enabling ALL the images to be available for review for prime? 

THANKS!


« Reply #192 on: September 05, 2014, 07:07 »
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Alex, is there a way to upload a series of images and select one for public profile/viewing while enabling ALL the images to be available for review for prime? 

THANKS!

No, at this time in order to submit a photo to Prime, it has to be in your public Profile. So every photo you submit will need to be publicly visible. I've heard there's plans to change that, but I don't know details or timelines.

« Reply #193 on: September 05, 2014, 10:31 »
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Alex, if a photographer does upload to prime and offer the image via the RF license model can he pull the image out of prime at a later date.  Some entities have a certain amount of time that an image must be left up to avoid people popping images on and off for short periods.  I ask this because I want to know if after 6 months or a year if an image has had no action on 500prime but say a personal client wants to use if for a traditional RM license can I remove it from 500prime?

I don't forsee this happening much if at all.  Just want to know what my options are.

Totally, you can remove it at anytime. Just beware that since our sales team may be working on sales in the background, we retain the right to sell your image within 45 days after you've removed it. This will be fairly rare, but it's just incase we're working on a deal with a buyer at the time that you remove the photos. Cheers!

in reference to your response, Alex, i don't think anyone would mind receiving an email requesting the image back on because of a sale (ie. in particular $259 framed image) . in my case, i would not move the images to RM or anything, except in cases of leaving it there and having no sales for a certain period. 
if u can tell me, pls...  is there any way we know how many visitors came to see the image?
not the Like or Love or Follow, whatever.. but more so the clients who come in to browse for framed images.    this is where i am not a big fan of social-media, because i think it is difficult to see where your market is.   

personally, i wish your agency distant yourself with social-media all in one stop-shop ,flickr, facebook, and be serious about making money rather than traffic; if that is  your business-objective .
this , ...and an auto watermark ...might increase your contributorship.

lastly, the time-turnaround for approvals. i don't see anywhere mentioning that, as it appears like no one knows whether the submitted works in Store is even curated.

thx in advance, many questions, only because i like 500px ... except for the above  ;)
« Last Edit: September 05, 2014, 10:37 by etudiante_rapide »

« Reply #194 on: September 07, 2014, 17:33 »
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I am interested in knowing more about the turnaround time for photos submitted for Prime.  One of your membership levels is Awesome and claims to have fast track for prime images as opposed to your plus membership does not. 

Really if you want to be taken seriously you might want to ditch membership classifications like Awesome, etc.  Must be a better more professional way to categorize your different memberships and the features you get with each level. 

« Reply #195 on: September 08, 2014, 09:50 »
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I am interested in knowing more about the turnaround time for photos submitted for Prime.  One of your membership levels is Awesome and claims to have fast track for prime images as opposed to your plus membership does not. 

Really if you want to be taken seriously you might want to ditch membership classifications like Awesome, etc.  Must be a better more professional way to categorize your different memberships and the features you get with each level.

Submissions take about 3-4 weeks to be processed. But it's not as important as it may sound, because as soon as a photo is submitted, it's listed in Prime and can be requested for license. If a buyer requests it before it has been processed, we'll process it immediately in order to close the sale. So don't worry about upgrading for that purpose, or about the processing time at all really. Just get your photos submitted, that's the most important step.

« Reply #196 on: September 08, 2014, 11:00 »
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I have photos selected for my store and prime and they don't show up when I look in prime nor do they even show up in my store.  It says I have 9 photos in my store but when I click the page comes up in prime with my name but no photos.  One of the photos has been selected and submitted for prime for close to 2 weeks.  So why does it not show up in my store? 

Just curious as to what is going on.  Are ongoing issues occurring with prime?

« Reply #197 on: September 08, 2014, 11:01 »
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I have photos selected for my store and prime and they don't show up when I look in prime nor do they even show up in my store.  It says I have 9 photos in my store but when I click the page comes up in prime with my name but no photos.  One of the photos has been selected and submitted for prime for close to 2 weeks.  So why does it not show up in my store? 

Just curious as to what is going on.  Are ongoing issues occurring with prime?

PM me your username or email. I'll investigate and get back to you via email.

« Reply #198 on: September 14, 2014, 02:05 »
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Has anyone found a way to disable exclusivity once the picture is available for licensing? I was reconsidering some shots but I just don't understand how to do it, seems impossible  :o

« Reply #199 on: September 14, 2014, 02:21 »
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I had this problem, email [email protected] and they will make them non-exclusive for you


 

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