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grafix04

« Reply #25 on: June 05, 2012, 21:12 »
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Thanks everyone.  That makes more sense getting buyers to purchase an EL rather than billing them $0.01 for each reproduction. They should get rid of that in the agreement.

Sean, I've added the 'other reproductions' column as a catch all for anything that's not printed material because other agents list them separately. I know you can't measure video but if I change it to 'zero', then what if if a buyer wants to send out 25,000 promotional emails or a promotional CD or DVD or have it on software that incorporates the image? They can definitely be measured. Wouldn't that be part of the standard license?  I thought it would be.  If you don't think so, if you think all those things are part of an EL, even for quantities less than 500,000, then I'll change it to 'zero'. 


OM

« Reply #26 on: June 06, 2012, 05:06 »
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Has anyone heard of any agency enforcing this?  I'm just curious how the stock agency would know if their buyer has reproduced something over a certain number of times?  :-\
I remember SS took legal action against a calendar company that hadn't purchased EL's.  Several of us here received a compensation payment that SS passed on to us.

I would imagine that FT has given such 'breadth' in standard license usage because they couldn't be bothered enforcing anything anyway. They got theirs when the subscription was paid.

RacePhoto

« Reply #27 on: June 06, 2012, 14:05 »
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Nice Work Grafix04 keep it up!

grafix04

« Reply #28 on: June 08, 2012, 01:06 »
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Nice Work Grafix04 keep it up!

Thanks Race :)   If you or anyone else want me to add details of the standard license of another micro, drop me the info and I'll add it to the table.

fotorob

  • Professional stock content producer
« Reply #29 on: June 17, 2012, 11:18 »
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@Grafix04:

What exactly do you mean by "number of seats" in your table?

grafix04

« Reply #30 on: June 17, 2012, 21:15 »
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@Grafix04:

What exactly do you mean by "number of seats" in your table?

The number of users within an organization that can use the image.  Most micros offer a multi-seat or multi-user EL license however Fotolia offers an unlimited number of seats in their standard license.  So buyers who would normally purchase a multi-seat EL license at other sites, can purchase it cheap on Fotolio on the standard license.

« Reply #31 on: October 20, 2012, 01:22 »
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Someone Please provide latest updates!!

« Reply #32 on: November 15, 2012, 15:39 »
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Thank you Grafix04 great effort and solid info.

Cheers,
Jonathan

Batman

« Reply #33 on: December 16, 2012, 17:46 »
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Thank you Grafix04 great effort and solid info.

Cheers,
Jonathan

He left the forum months ago. I agree with you great effort and info.

« Reply #34 on: December 16, 2012, 17:55 »
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Thank you Grafix04 great effort and solid info.

Cheers,
Jonathan


He left the forum months ago. I agree with you great effort and info.


he's back
http://www.microstockgroup.com/profile/?u=50735

grafix04

« Reply #35 on: December 16, 2012, 19:18 »
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Wasted effort since it can't even be edited.  Shortly after I wrote all that my account was deleted.  Either I was hacked or I was booted by admin.  Twice I asked the question, twice I was ignored. 

But you're welcome!


« Reply #36 on: December 17, 2012, 00:28 »
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I don't delete accounts. ever.
Where did you ask the question? And what question.
Possibly I can merge the deleted acct. and your acct. if you want.

just thought I'd add.. I do delete account when they are clearly from spammers.
« Last Edit: December 17, 2012, 06:09 by leaf »

grafix04

« Reply #37 on: December 17, 2012, 03:41 »
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That means I was hacked?  I mentioned it many months ago in one of the Pinterest threads and then later in different Pinterest thread (I think).  I can't even check my history to pinpoint it but I'm sure people remember it happening.  It was a little after lagereek lost his account.  The second time, I deleted it myself because you had deleted my posts and since my questions never were answered about the first deletion, I assumed it was you who deleted my account.

From memory, I remember just before I was deleted or the last time I was signed in before being deleted, my screen froze and I had to reboot.  I'm assuming someone else logged in with my name at that point and kicked me out?  I came back to the site to read but I didn't log in.  I didn't notice my account was gone till after a day or two, when Sean and maybe Cathy asked what happened to me. 

If my account was hacked and deleted, is it safe to merge them?  There are actually three under grafix04 that need merging.  Is that possible?  To be honest, I'm a little paranoid signing into this site since it happened and have beefed up my security on my PC. 

« Reply #38 on: December 17, 2012, 06:08 »
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That means I was hacked?  I mentioned it many months ago in one of the Pinterest threads and then later in different Pinterest thread (I think).  I can't even check my history to pinpoint it but I'm sure people remember it happening.  It was a little after lagereek lost his account.  The second time, I deleted it myself because you had deleted my posts and since my questions never were answered about the first deletion, I assumed it was you who deleted my account.

From memory, I remember just before I was deleted or the last time I was signed in before being deleted, my screen froze and I had to reboot.  I'm assuming someone else logged in with my name at that point and kicked me out?  I came back to the site to read but I didn't log in.  I didn't notice my account was gone till after a day or two, when Sean and maybe Cathy asked what happened to me. 

If my account was hacked and deleted, is it safe to merge them?  There are actually three under grafix04 that need merging.  Is that possible?  To be honest, I'm a little paranoid signing into this site since it happened and have beefed up my security on my PC. 

Who knows.. something strange happened.  If it wasn't you and it wasn't me then it has to be a bug or a hack... neither which seem that likely either.

If you want to get a hold of me, you should email me at [email protected] or send me a PM on this site.  Putting a post in the thread can easily be missed. 

I prefer not to merge accounts and it means I have to dive into the database and there is always a risk of screwing things up.  Perhaps we'll just leave things as they are.  Let me know if you have any more problems (.. and contact me in a PM or email.. not a thread)

grafix04

« Reply #39 on: December 17, 2012, 11:35 »
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That means I was hacked?  I mentioned it many months ago in one of the Pinterest threads and then later in different Pinterest thread (I think).  I can't even check my history to pinpoint it but I'm sure people remember it happening.  It was a little after lagereek lost his account.  The second time, I deleted it myself because you had deleted my posts and since my questions never were answered about the first deletion, I assumed it was you who deleted my account.

From memory, I remember just before I was deleted or the last time I was signed in before being deleted, my screen froze and I had to reboot.  I'm assuming someone else logged in with my name at that point and kicked me out?  I came back to the site to read but I didn't log in.  I didn't notice my account was gone till after a day or two, when Sean and maybe Cathy asked what happened to me. 

If my account was hacked and deleted, is it safe to merge them?  There are actually three under grafix04 that need merging.  Is that possible?  To be honest, I'm a little paranoid signing into this site since it happened and have beefed up my security on my PC. 

Who knows.. something strange happened.  If it wasn't you and it wasn't me then it has to be a bug or a hack... neither which seem that likely either.

If you want to get a hold of me, you should email me at [email protected] or send me a PM on this site.  Putting a post in the thread can easily be missed. 

I prefer not to merge accounts and it means I have to dive into the database and there is always a risk of screwing things up.  Perhaps we'll just leave things as they are.  Let me know if you have any more problems (.. and contact me in a PM or email.. not a thread)

Will do, I've now noted the email.  Thanks for confirming it wasn't you.   

BD

« Reply #40 on: August 18, 2013, 21:18 »
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I think this is a little outdated. For example, I know Depositphotos changed the license agreement awhile ago and needs to be updated as it appears they no longer limit the number of copies and possibly seats: http://depositphotos.com/license.html. I think Bigstock might have changed since as well.

Jackie Tsu

  • No Any Subscriptions.


« Reply #41 on: March 30, 2021, 10:09 »
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I've copied this over from newbielink:http://www.microstockgroup.com/general-stock-discussion/lee-torrens-on-els-for-ms-prices-ft-and-123rf/msg258701/#msg258701 [nonactive] where I created a table comparing the standard RF licenses of a few of our agents.  If you'd like another agent added, find any errors or find changes t :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[o existing licenses at a later date, drop me a post here and I'll update it.

ETA:  The purpose of this table is to highlight  :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\those agents selling EL User Rights under the normal standard RF license and subscription sales.


AgentOther ReproductionsPrint ReproductionsSeatsResolution (pixels)
newbielink:http://www.shutterstock.com/licensing.mhtml [nonactive]
250,000
250,000
Single
800 x 600
newbielink:http://www.istockphoto.com/license.php [nonactive]
500,000 *1
500,000 *1
Single
1200 x 800
newbielink:http://us.fotolia.com/Info/Agreements/StandardLicense [nonactive]
Unlimited
Unlimited
Unlimited
1000 x 1000
newbielink:http://www.dreamstime.com/terms [nonactive]
Unlimited
500,000
Single
800 width
newbielink:http://depositphotos.com/standard-license.html [nonactive]
500,000
500,000
Single
1024 x 678
newbielink:http://www.123rf.com/license.php?type=standard [nonactive]
250,000
250,000
Single? *2
No restrictions
newbielink:http://www.bigstockphoto.com/usage.html [nonactive]
Unlimited but *3
Unlimited but *3
Single
1200 x 800
newbielink:http://www.canstockphoto.com/legal.php [nonactive]
500,000
500,000
Single
600 x 800
newbielink:http://www.veer.com/help/license.aspx?eula=MPP [nonactive]
500,000
500,000
Single
800 x 600
newbielink:http://stockfresh.com/info/license [nonactive]
Unlimited
250,000
Single
800 x 600
newbielink:http://graphicleftovers.com/licenses [nonactive]
10,000
10,000
Unlimited
No restrictions

* Notes
1. Excess Reproduction Run for iStockphoto is invoiced to buyer - does this mean no additional commission is paid to the contributor?
2. Number of seats is not mentioned in the standard licence restrictions for 123rf, however they do over an unlimited multi-seat EL.
3. Limited reproduction however usage granted to only one type and must purchase separate license for each type.

Other reproductions include anything that's not reproduced on printed material.  For example, ebooks, images incorporated into software, media reproductions - film, video, email marketing and similar.

I've highlighted the ones that need attention in red.
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« Reply #42 on: March 30, 2021, 14:05 »
+1
Ah, the "good" old days.

That chart's very out of date - Veer, Stockfresh and GraphicLeftovers are out of business and Fotolia is now AdobeStock. I don't think any of the agencies impose a maximum size on online display of images, but if there still is a limit it's much larger than it was

The issue of enforcement of license violations is also worth considering - considering there's another post today from someone pointing out that Creative Market is offering Adobe Stock and Shutterstock photos in a bundle of sky images (and saying in the description that they're doing that), the agencies don't exactly stand out for protecting their contributors.

« Reply #43 on: January 04, 2022, 05:11 »
+1
Just requested to delete my images.
The worse the site is, more problems to delete images. These even don't give such option for a user.


 

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