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If you are not the photographer but own the rights to the photograph can the photo be uploaded for sale?  Example, what if you inherited a set of really outstanding photos taken by your parent.  No one else owns the rights, no one else has any legal claim to the photos.  You are the sole heir to the photos.  Can you legally offer them up for sale at a stock photo site?

This question was posed to me and I thought I'd try to find out what others think.
Marburg

Thank you Native for validating what I was thinking.
Marburg

Caution: Some sites state in their agreements you must be the photographer.

However, I can not seem to find a way that those sites would ever find out.

Cranky MIZ
The voice of reason

huh?

Cranky MIZ
The voice of reason

What if my wife's second cousins mother in law took pictures of her godchild's brother at her aunts' nephew's birthday,
Would the mother in law be permitted if her sister inherited the pictures and gave them to her brother's son in law to
upload a single image of their grandchild if the proper model release was obtained?

Cranky MIZ
The voice of reason

I'm dizzy now.

Oh wait...I'm always dizzy. 

Hmm...lots to think about.  I would guess, to be safe, if people are involved you would have to go around and get a model release for each living person.  But what about those who are deceased?  Would the estate own the rights to their likenesses and would you have to get a release from the estate's executor?

All good points to ponder.  What exactly does happen if the photographer passed away and had sold photos online?  What if the photographer specifically stated in a will that their worldly possessions pass on to theirs heirs?  If it is a single heir, would this be sufficient?  What about multiple heirs?

Marburg

"But what about those who are deceased?  Would the estate own the rights to their likenesses and would you have to get a release from the estate's executor?"

Most people who contribute to stock are a small niche of people who are separate from normal people.
They work alone. Never share their cameras, and rarely if ever let the families know what they're doing
on the computer at all hours of the night and day.

They work secretively keeping the money earned from stock hidden from their spouses.
Many successful stock photographers are suspected by their families of illicit and unlawful activities.
This is due to  the huge amounts of cash flow coming in every month.

So when a stock photographer dies suddenly, the family equates the sudden death to their alleged illegal activities.
They never mention the huge cash amounts hidden away in cereal boxes in the hallway closet to anyone, including the authorities.

No one ever suspects micro sites as the source of the cash. Therefore the cash adds up over time. The account becomes inactive.
the Micro site declares the account void, and consumes the hugh cash assets for themselves.

Cranky MIZ
The voice of reason

This could become really tangled as I know each country has it's own laws.  So, how does all this work via internet where the website the photos may be uploaded to are in one country and the owner is in another?  And since the internet is worldwide....?lots and lots to think about. 

In terms of myself, I have inherited a large amount of negatives from 1890-1945.  All the people in them have passed away.  Some have no heirs while others have a few.  The person who posed the question has some photos that her parents took back in the 1930's and she is the only living heir.

I believe they make some of the best buttonholes there are, much better than roses. 

If you want to err on the side of caution, it´s 70 years after the death of the photograph AND no person on the photo is still living (highly probability, after all that time), then the photo is out of any copyright.
Which means you CAN NOT sell it on microstock, as microstock wants you to be the copyright holder.

If you are the sole heir of photos and negatives AND no person on the photo is still living, then (by German law) you are the copyright holder and you can sell the photo for whatever use.

All the rest- works only with model release.

I would consider traditional licencing or other channels for this kind of work, instead of micros.

good point.  Some of them are really antiquated.  A photo expert told me the negatives date from 1890's through 1950's and camera used was the old box kind where the negative is shot onto a plate glass and photographer had a hood.  Chemicals were mixed and it took about 3 minutes of exposure for the photo to take.

There are approximately 1,000 of these and while many are of deceased family members there are also a good number of landscapes, cityscapes, etc.  So, a gallery could be an option.