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WarrenPrice

« Reply #25 on: May 10, 2012, 15:13 »
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There is a thread about search engine/best match changes being tested.
http://www.dreamstime.com/thread_31330

Doesn't seem to favor my team.   :-\


WarrenPrice

« Reply #26 on: May 11, 2012, 10:02 »
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There is a thread about search engine/best match changes being tested.
http://www.dreamstime.com/thread_31330

Doesn't seem to favor my team.   :-\


Bump...
this is getting more and more interesting.  If you upload to DT ... you are affected.   8)

« Reply #27 on: May 12, 2012, 07:08 »
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I do have small portfolio but increasing it every month by 15-30%

sales on SS follows my portfolio increase, even 123rf is getting better every month.

but on dreamstime it's completely opposite.. 1 sub sale this month is unbelievable... even with almost half of my current portfolio size, in March, a sold 10 times more in first half of the month.

WarrenPrice

« Reply #28 on: May 12, 2012, 11:02 »
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http://www.dreamstime.com/thread_25396

It's an epidemic.  SS earlier in the week, DT today and iS ... who knows?

What the heck is going on with all the sites? 

« Reply #29 on: May 12, 2012, 11:04 »
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What the heck is going on with all the sites? 

Greediness.

wut

« Reply #30 on: May 12, 2012, 15:31 »
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The latest steal price raises/commission cuts are proving yet again that it affects their business in a catastrophic way (my sales are at 20% of Apr sales, instead of being at 40%). Now I'm really starting to wonder if agency owners indeed are naive. They're seeing IS, FT and 123RF going down from month to month, yet they decide to copy their obviously flawed way of doing business

« Reply #31 on: May 12, 2012, 18:20 »
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The new 'Best Selling' search engine changes at DT are pretty massive. Images with 20 dls can now be 'selling better' than images with 120 dls. The whole output of search is dramatically different. The new search seems to almost ignore illustrations entirely. If you search 'Best Selling for "business" in the first 80 images returned there is only one illustration. This is going to kill me at DT, where my sales have already been going down, like those of many who have posted in this thread.

SS is also twiddling its search engine, ostensibly to fix the long-time bugs which lose images. And IS's search engine has long produced so many crazy swings that it's hard to tell if they have completely changed it or not.

I think that the microstock companies tend to try big changes in the early Summer, the slower sales months, to lessen the damage if the 'improvements' hurt. We contributors may be in for a long, hot (or cold) crazy-days Summer.

« Reply #32 on: May 12, 2012, 19:41 »
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...  Images with 20 dls can now be 'selling better' than images with 120 dls. ....

I suspect that "best selling" might be a bit like SS "popular" and the age of the file factored in??

« Reply #33 on: May 12, 2012, 23:42 »
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...  Images with 20 dls can now be 'selling better' than images with 120 dls. ....

I suspect that "best selling" might be a bit like SS "popular" and the age of the file factored in??

There is something else also because old images with relatively few downloads can appear before newer images with more downloads - and this is just sorting in my own port - so no relevancy for keywords or other secret sauce should be effecting the order.

« Reply #34 on: May 13, 2012, 00:26 »
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...  Images with 20 dls can now be 'selling better' than images with 120 dls. ....

I suspect that "best selling" might be a bit like SS "popular" and the age of the file factored in??

There is something else also because old images with relatively few downloads can appear before newer images with more downloads - and this is just sorting in my own port - so no relevancy for keywords or other secret sauce should be effecting the order.

Sales/views, perhaps, whch would help rescue images that got buried by a bug and were never looked at.

« Reply #35 on: May 14, 2012, 12:24 »
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...  Images with 20 dls can now be 'selling better' than images with 120 dls. ....

I suspect that "best selling" might be a bit like SS "popular" and the age of the file factored in??
You're right, I'm sure. So DT calling it 'Best Selling' instead of 'Most Popular' (especially if, as Baldrickstrousers suspects, views may be figured in too) seems to be misleading. But maybe DT doesn't want to be seen as copying SS's name for the search.

Wim

« Reply #36 on: May 14, 2012, 14:15 »
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DT is picking up again, regular TIFF sales.

tab62

« Reply #37 on: May 14, 2012, 14:51 »
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Still down for me- oh, well be to the drawing board :'(

wut

« Reply #38 on: May 14, 2012, 15:35 »
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To put it into perspective: DT is currently at 5% of SS and not even at 25% of FT which I usually compare it to.

« Reply #39 on: May 14, 2012, 15:55 »
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whatever they are doing I am having a lot more Credit sales so I am heading for a BME, that said doesnt mean much..

« Reply #40 on: May 15, 2012, 12:59 »
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Unbelievably, behind IS last month and so far this month with almost 20 times the number of inages  ???  It also seems lately that acceptance or rejection is pretty much a lottery and depends on which reviewer you get.  Nothing wrong with high standards, even ridiculously high standards but the standard should be pretty much consistent or it looks like the right hand doesn't know what the left is doing.

Wim

« Reply #41 on: May 16, 2012, 04:41 »
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Indeed Mike, I've said it before, DT (and SS in my case) need to work on their reviewing, hire more qualified people, not some spoiled brats who like to abuse their power of being the middleman.
The other day DT rejected a mother's day greeting card for too many on site, the card has sold multiple times before, on the actual holiday and afterwards on other agencies, it's even one of my personal favorites (I've used it myself)

Some reviewers rob us and the agency from our income, if the agencies are happy with that then do continue to sell less, good for business right!


« Reply #42 on: May 16, 2012, 06:59 »
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Once again, images accepted at all sites but not at DT.
One DT reject from 6 months ago has been downloaded over 100 times at SS including OD's and an EL.

« Reply #43 on: May 16, 2012, 07:27 »
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Thats why you always recieve a rejection with : "Their loss"

« Reply #44 on: May 16, 2012, 08:48 »
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Maybe it's just me -- this is obviously a panned image.  It is editorial but was rejected for:

 Image is out of focus or too much of the subject is out of focus (DOF too shallow or DOF not justified) / Image is shaken. Use a faster speed or a tripod. Please check the files at 100% zoom before submitting them.


Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr....

PS:  the image above is on Shutterstock ... where it is already getting sales.

&^%^&$%^

PPS:  After BME last month just 3 sales (subscription) so far this month.  What the eff is going on there.  Is this the periodical shift in search engine priorities?

And ... for Dt ... if it ain't online -- you cain't sell it. 

--more cuss words --

Sorry, but this image shouldn't be accepted anywhere. The main subject should be sharp, the bg is of course good and gives you sense of speed. Looking at it like a madman, the number could be sharp at 100%, but it's the motorcrossist and (most) of the bike that should be sharp

Agree with Wut. The main subject should be sharp, or at least reasonably so. It's a tough shot to pull off correctly. I can't blame the reviewer in this case.

« Reply #45 on: May 16, 2012, 08:56 »
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May 2012 is on pace to be the 3rd or 4th bme for me at DT, which I find impressive since May is always one of my weakest months. Downloads are down, but RPD is way, way up.

« Reply #46 on: May 16, 2012, 12:48 »
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Indeed Mike, I've said it before, DT (and SS in my case) need to work on their reviewing, hire more qualified people, not some spoiled brats who like to abuse their power of being the middleman.
The other day DT rejected a mother's day greeting card for too many on site, the card has sold multiple times before, on the actual holiday and afterwards on other agencies, it's even one of my personal favorites (I've used it myself)

Some reviewers rob us and the agency from our income, if the agencies are happy with that then do continue to sell less, good for business right!

To be honest, neither DT nor I will lose a fortune based on these rejections.  The real problem is that if you have widely different standards then you really have no standards.  IS are ridiculously picky but at least they are consistent.   The odd reject from SS generally has some basis in my case and if they say theres a technical or lighting issue it is usually with a weaker image.  Up to recently I would have said the same about DT but, lately, it seems to have nothing to do with the technical quality of the image.  Over the weekend I had 4 accepted that included one weakfish image and one rejected.  The images (apart from one of those accepted) would be virtually identical in terms of quality @ 100%.  I know this was a different reviewer based on it going under review much earlier and coming out later.  If they have decided to raise the bar thats fair enough but if its heads you win and tails you lose, thats just unprofessional.

« Reply #47 on: May 16, 2012, 12:56 »
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Reviewing at ALL sites is somewhat arbitrary, especially for images on the margins.

To give DT their due, so far this month is going quite well for me.

To also complain about what I don't like. I had one sale where I got 13.7 cents per credit. That is just WAY too low (level 0 TIFF sale). There was no reason why they had to drop the level 0 and level 5 percentages (or they could have put in a level 6 with 50%)

« Reply #48 on: May 17, 2012, 11:49 »
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I have only recently joined shutterstock as I had to get my i.d. sorted, so only been with them about 3 weeks. I had my application approved with all ten illustrations accepted, which I didn't expect at all and since then practically all illustrations I have submitted have been accepted, apart from, maybe, one or two. Ive also had 2 sales so far, and yet dreamstime have rejected many of these images that have been accepted by shutterstock, and all the other agencies I'm with, fotolia etc. Ive also had no sales on there for several weeks!

« Reply #49 on: May 17, 2012, 18:33 »
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Ive also had 2 sales so far, and yet dreamstime have rejected many of these images that have been accepted by shutterstock .....
Yes, same here. Just started with Shutterstock a month ago and it has 6 times more sales than Dreamstime with a fraction of the number of approved images. And like you....Dreamstime is rejecting almost everything lately, many that have been accepted by Shutterstock.... :-\


 

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