Expectations: what is your approx. return per 100 images

lisafx

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« Reply #50 on: March 14, 2011, 14:15 »

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My RPI continued to grow for the first 4 years I was doing this. Only started lagging in year 5 & 6.

While it may be theoretically possible to keep your RPI growing, it isn't very likely. Dilution of the market is a huge problem, and the more successful you are, the more you are likely to feel it. Also a big problem - three of the top four sites have lowered royalties. There is no amount of cleverness, skill, or planning that can prevent that from having an effect on your RPI.

Whenever I see anyone extolling the possibilities of an infinitely growing RPI, it's a dead giveaway that they are either not a high volume or successful contributor, haven't been at it very long, or are just talking out their ass. Or all of the above. Roll Eyes


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RacePhoto

« Reply #51 on: March 14, 2011, 14:40 »

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If you read my message, I was referring to OTHERS and the general trend from many people on this forum. Not myself. Over and over there are messages here about diminishing returns where people find more images, they don't find they have the same sales levels and RPI as when they had less images.

So go poke someone else, some very successful and active here and tell them they are doing things wrong, wasting time and should quit. Thanks!

I don't measure RPI, views, or a bunch of other after the fact irrelevant indicators. I watch the bottom line income and what images of my own, sell. Pretty simple which matches my efforts. Wink

But since someone asked what to expect, I answered what people here have said and others have personally answered what he can expect. Different people, different agencies, different images. There are variations. But very few have ever said on the forums that their RPI went up, with more photos, just counting the number of photos. If someone improves and take better suited or more marketable shots, of course it should go up.

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Quote from: RacePhoto on March 12, 2011, 14:13

My conclusion from reading the advise and helpful stats of others is, there is not a one to one relationship between the number of images and income. The more you upload, the lower the RPI will be. Also if it matters, someone can delete images that don't sell after a year and their RPI will go up.

Nonsense. That's like saying the more you work, the lower your hourly rate is. If that's happening to you, you'd be crazy not to QUIT.

In my experience, my RPI has gone UP over time, not down. I've been doing this for three years. In my first months, my daily RPI was about 10 cents per image. It's steadily risen, and today stands at 14 cents. I have not deleted ANY images from my port. My goal is not to increase RPI but to increase revenue. Watching my RPI tells me whether I am doing things right, and helps me forecast for the future. Yes, I could delete my worst selling images and RPI would increase, but that would defeat the purpose! If my RPI is gradually increasing, that means I'm creating less images like my worst selling images. You use RPI as a learning and forecasting tool, not bragging rights!

If your RPI is falling, you are doing things wrong. Maybe you're not learning as you go along. Maybe you're uploading more of the same that is simply competing with your existing images. Either way, why are you doing it? RPI should be flat or growing, or you're wasting your time.


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PaulieWalnuts

« Reply #52 on: March 14, 2011, 18:47 »

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Quote from: stockmarketer on March 14, 2011, 09:24

Quote from: RacePhoto on March 12, 2011, 14:13

Nonsense. That's like saying the more you work, the lower your hourly rate is. If that's happening to you, you'd be crazy not to QUIT.

In my first months, my daily RPI was about 10 cents per image. It's steadily risen, and today stands at 14 cents.

Daily RPI? So you're saying your monthly RPI is over $4?


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bad to the bone

« Reply #53 on: March 14, 2011, 20:45 »

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Nobody has a RPI over 4$ a day only he have only 10 images online and one or two special shots what do there job as cash cows, and even then it means over 1460$ p.a. with 10 Images. Or over 14.600$ with a hunderet. I don't believe this without any proof.
My best is a RPI of 34$ over 34 month at one agency, and this is really unusual.
My RPI overall is at 13,61 EUR and my RPD is at 1,4$ at the moment (after 34 month in business, was doubled the high at my beginning). And nobody should tell me that this isn't a number for beeing in there since 34 month.


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steheap

« Reply #54 on: March 15, 2011, 14:07 »

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I've started publishing my income per site and the number of files on each site so you can work out my performance. I have continued to add about 100 files a month over the last year and have almost doubled my income and hope to get $600 this month. Not enough to live on though! I don't take many studio type shots - I find good quality travel and location shots sell pretty well. Isolated bengal cats are good sellers for me as well!

Steve
http://www.backyardsilver.com


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stockmarketer

« Reply #55 on: March 15, 2011, 15:44 »

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Quote from: lisafx on March 14, 2011, 14:15

Whenever I see anyone extolling the possibilities of an infinitely growing RPI, it's a dead giveaway that they are either not a high volume or successful contributor, haven't been at it very long, or are just talking out their ass. Or all of the above. Roll Eyes

RE: Infinite growth... I don't expect my RPI to grow infinitely. Started at 10 cents daily RPI and now at 14.5 cents three years later. I don't expect that will grow at that rate forever, but I've managed to grow it while weathering all the commission cuts that Lisa mentions. Flat is a goal, anything above it is gravy. Will I see the decrease in the coming years? I'm still a nube compared to Lisa, so I'll defer to her experience on that.

Lisa is a contributor I admire and respect. She's hugely successful and clearly knows this industry, so I'll take my licking. I probably deserved it.


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lisafx

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« Reply #56 on: March 15, 2011, 17:12 »

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Quote from: stockmarketer on March 15, 2011, 15:44

Lisa is a contributor I admire and respect. She's hugely successful and clearly knows this industry, so I'll take my licking. I probably deserved it.

Aww. Thanks very kindly for that. I am afraid I have been pretty cranky lately. Nothing to do with you, BTW. The stuff at Istock has me frazzled.

I hope your RPI does continue to grow, or at least not shrink. I will see what I can do about mine...


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bad to the bone

« Reply #57 on: March 23, 2011, 21:59 »

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but, to have a look back to the start of this thread. I've had a look at the images of viserceralimage at his microsites, at his homepage and read the thread. I'm more shure than at my first post on this thread that my expectations are a good hit.
Some of you gave him hints and very good suggestions, what he denied. He soundet so much disappointed, he should have been helped. But, as always, he don't need help.
He don't need PS, he don't need help, he only asked for affirmation of his hope and expectance.
2/3 of his images need to be improofed by digital work to be sellable at micro, don't talk about macro - what he declienes.
The studio work is solid for personal and individual interests but not to sell at micro or macro.
...as Irving said: you can love someone, but you can't help.


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visceralimage

« Reply #58 on: March 24, 2011, 01:00 »

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Quote from: bad to the bone on March 23, 2011, 21:59

Some of you gave him hints and very good suggestions, what he denied. He soundet so much disappointed, he should have been helped. But, as always, he don't need help.

Dear Bad, are you speaking about this thread; I believe the only advice I did not encourage was working with someone in India. I am not disappointed, I am completely excited and enjoy my photography career.

Quote from: bad to the bone on March 23, 2011, 21:59

He don't need PS, he don't need help, he only asked for affirmation of his hope and expectance.

Actually, I have PS CS5, have been using PS since PS-5 (about 10 editions ago). I have re-read this post and do not see anywhere that I requested affirmation.

Furthermore, I appreciate the critique of the general quality of my images. I went to your profile so I could get an idea of your qualifications (anyone can offer an opinion; some are qualified to offer an critique); guess what, no images linked to your profile, no name, no age, nothing-just hiding behind some screen name.

Nevertheless, you are entitled to your opinion.


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