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strikerx98



« on: May 06, 2008, 00:55 »
I recieved my first Enhanced License sale today on Shutterstock... besides getting $20 instead of 25 cents, what does that mean?

Thanks,
Connie


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Magnum


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« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2008, 01:34 »
It means probably that someone is printing your photo on thousand of products and making more than 25$. I´m not shure I enjoy that.  Imagine seeing that product with your image and reading how much they are making out of it. It should be alot more than 25$ for a EL I think.   

But thats just my opinion...


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strikerx98



« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2008, 11:36 »
Quote from: Magnum on May 06, 2008, 01:34
It means probably that someone is printing your photo on thousand of products and making more than 25$. I'm not sure I enjoy that.  Imagine seeing that product with your image and reading how much they are making out of it. It should be alot more than 25$ for a EL I think.   

But thats just my opinion...

True, but it's all relative.  I've already agreed to sell the image for 25 cents just by being at Shutterstock.  So a $20 sale is pretty nice.  Yes, it would be great to get a couple hundred for it, but then I wouldn't be selling at Shutterstock, and so far I've had no sales at Alamy.

My shot from iStock that appeared in the back of last months Los Angeles Magazine sold for 25 cents and then I bought 2 of their magazines for over $10 total.  It's relative.  I would rather get $20 for a photo that's going to be on a sold product than 25 cents.


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« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2008, 12:31 »
I guess we need to see it bigger. what it gives us each year or so.  Saying that you get 25c for a backside is weird:)


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« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2008, 15:10 »

True, but it's all relative.  I've already agreed to sell the image for 25 cents just by being at Shutterstock.  So a $20 sale is pretty nice.  Yes, it would be great to get a couple hundred for it, but then I wouldn't be selling at Shutterstock, and so far I've had no sales at Alamy.

My shot from iStock that appeared in the back of last months Los Angeles Magazine sold for 25 cents and then I bought 2 of their magazines for over $10 total.  It's relative.  I would rather get $20 for a photo that's going to be on a sold product than 25 cents.



Hmmm,

Los Angeles magazine says that it has a paid subscription base of 180,000.
The TOS for a standard license a SS is no more than 250,000 in a print run.
The thing that bugs me here is that the magazine is on racks all over the place.
Those prints are not accounted for in the 180,000 subs info.

If in reality the magazine does have a print run over 250,000, you should have gotten an extended license payment for that and not $0.20.

See, this is the reason that the RM guys laugh at us.


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strikerx98



« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2008, 23:45 »
Quote from: nosaya on May 06, 2008, 15:10



My shot from iStock that appeared in the back of last months Los Angeles Magazine sold for 25 cents and then I bought 2 of their magazines for over $10 total.  It's relative.  I would rather get $20 for a photo that's going to be on a sold product than 25 cents.
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Hmmm,

Los Angeles magazine says that it has a paid subscription base of 180,000.
The TOS for a standard license a SS is no more than 250,000 in a print run.
The thing that bugs me here is that the magazine is on racks all over the place.
Those prints are not accounted for in the 180,000 subs info.

If in reality the magazine does have a print run over 250,000, you should have gotten an extended license payment for that and not $0.20.

See, this is the reason that the RM guys laugh at us.

Does iStock have the same rule for print run as SS because as I stated it was IS that sold to LA Mag.  I would be interested to know if that is the case.


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khwi



« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2008, 04:08 »
$20 is a most welcome change to the usual 25c, IMHO  Wink


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DanP68


« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2008, 07:05 »
I agree.  I get about $28 per EL sale at iStock, and $17 per EL sale at Fotolia at my current contributor level.  So Shutterstock falls in line with both.

BTW congratulations Connie!  EL's definitely give you that "warm and fuzzy feeling" for several days.   Smiley

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PenelopeB


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« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2008, 09:50 »
Congratulations on your EL sale!  Feels good!

Regards
Penny


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Graffoto



« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2008, 09:56 »
IS allows a higher print run than SS.

Here is their wording:

"Reproduction / Print Run Limits
The Standard License Agreement limits the number of times clients may print the Content to 500,000 reproductions. By purchasing this extension, clients can make an unlimited number of reproductions (100 credits). For example, the client may print an unlimited number of posters or make an unlimited number of DVDs containing the Content".


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strikerx98



« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2008, 12:17 »
Quote from: nosaya on May 07, 2008, 09:56
IS allows a higher print run than SS.

Here is their wording:

"Reproduction / Print Run Limits
The Standard License Agreement limits the number of times clients may print the Content to 500,000 reproductions. By purchasing this extension, clients can make an unlimited number of reproductions (100 credits). For example, the client may print an unlimited number of posters or make an unlimited number of DVDs containing the Content".

So then Los Angeles Magazine was within thier rights to purchase my image for 25 cents and print it in thier magazine?  It sure was cool to see there!


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