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« Reply #25 on: April 10, 2013, 03:29 »
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Qwerty, you have asked the exact question I have often wondered about.  What IS a travel picture, someone with suitcases, or in a car.  It can't be scenic views because they have nothing to do with travel, although the photographer may have travelled there the actual scenes are there all the time and may have been photographed and submitted by locals  :)


Beppe Grillo

« Reply #26 on: April 10, 2013, 07:03 »
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I think that a travel picture is a picture that illustrate a place where you can travel, the people living there, the activities that you can do there, generally a destination recommended by travel agencies.
So a travel picture should be a picture that can be used in a travel agency's catalog (site/communication).

But maybe there is a little confusion travel/landscape, and Fotolia refuses the landscape photos more that the travel ones.

ShadySue

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« Reply #27 on: April 10, 2013, 07:23 »
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Qwerty, you have asked the exact question I have often wondered about.  What IS a travel picture, someone with suitcases, or in a car.  It can't be scenic views because they have nothing to do with travel, although the photographer may have travelled there the actual scenes are there all the time and may have been photographed and submitted by locals  :)

Depends on the agency, presumably. iStock says the 'travel' keyword must relate to actually travelling. It also has keywords like 'travel destination', for popular tourist spots, which you, the photographer, don't actually need to have travelled to get to.

« Reply #28 on: April 10, 2013, 08:46 »
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My best seller on fotolia is a seascape travel image. I've found it all over the net and they have sold it more than anyone, although I've earned more for it elsewhere.
I was thinking of putting some European travel photos on there but not sure if I will - may just stick with alamy for most of my travel. DT seems to sell the most travel, other than SS which sells the most of everything. 

RacePhoto

« Reply #29 on: April 10, 2013, 10:34 »
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All yeses for all the answers.

I think that a travel picture is a picture that illustrate a place where you can travel, the people living there, the activities that you can do there, generally a destination recommended by travel agencies.
So a travel picture should be a picture that can be used in a travel agency's catalog (site/communication).

But maybe there is a little confusion travel/landscape, and Fotolia refuses the landscape photos more that the travel ones.

Depends on the agency, presumably. iStock says the 'travel' keyword must relate to actually travelling. It also has keywords like 'travel destination', for popular tourist spots, which you, the photographer, don't actually need to have travelled to get to.

Qwerty, you have asked the exact question I have often wondered about.  What IS a travel picture, someone with suitcases, or in a car.  It can't be scenic views because they have nothing to do with travel, although the photographer may have travelled there the actual scenes are there all the time and may have been photographed and submitted by locals  :)

Traveling is suitcases and a car, train or plane? It's the act of traveling, but unfortunately in English we can also describe taking a trip as Travel.

'travel destination' is a good way of defining what the subject is. But scenic and landscape can describe many of the views as well.

If I take a landscape of a travel destination with people in it, does it become Lifestyle? What the heck is Lifestyle? It's just as vague as "travel" and yes I understand the difference between Holiday in Europe and Holiday in the US. My little camper trailer is a "Caravan" over there.

So if I take a caravan on a holiday, and tell someone locally, they might wonder what I'm talking about. Or think I just rode a Camel on a day off.  ;)

England and America are two countries separated by the same language
GB Shaw

The same can be said for photographers, keywords, definitions and agency policy?

« Reply #30 on: April 10, 2013, 11:02 »
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I think travel pics could be the act of travelling or places which attract tourism.

FT has so far been the only agency which sold EL for my travel pics, they do have travel agencies as their customers.

« Reply #31 on: April 10, 2013, 15:14 »
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My definition of a travel photo is "when I look at the photo, does it make me want to go there?"

ShadySue

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« Reply #32 on: April 10, 2013, 15:20 »
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I think travel pics could be the act of travelling or places which attract tourism.

FT has so far been the only agency which sold EL for my travel pics, they do have travel agencies as their customers.
I've had ELs on iS on 'travel photos', but I don't know if they were used in a travel context.

Beppe Grillo

« Reply #33 on: April 11, 2013, 00:06 »
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My definition of a travel photo is "when I look at the photo, does it make me want to go there?"
So if you are already there it is not a travel photo?

« Reply #34 on: April 11, 2013, 00:29 »
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I think travel pics could be the act of travelling or places which attract tourism.

FT has so far been the only agency which sold EL for my travel pics, they do have travel agencies as their customers.
I've had ELs on iS on 'travel photos', but I don't know if they were used in a travel context.

Ah yes IS, I took down my uploads after reading on MSG .

« Reply #35 on: April 11, 2013, 10:43 »
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I took my stuff on Fotolia down recently (poor sales), but they accepted images other agency would not and rejected a lot of images other agencies embraced. Out of all of the ones I tried, Fotolia was sure the toughest to gauge what they are after.

« Reply #36 on: April 11, 2013, 11:29 »
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When I started stock  photography as a hobby the first agencies I submitted to were DT and FT. I always submitted the same pictures to both and it happened often that FT refused pictures accepted by DT and vice versa. My biggest seller (in downloads) is FT but in money it's more or less equal. The difference in number of downloads however is huge. DT 50 dl for 80$ - FT 150 dl for 80 (Fotolia pays me in ).  Since a while I also submit to SS and it outperforms both.


RacePhoto

« Reply #37 on: April 11, 2013, 21:10 »
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Oh another good one, that's a better word for it. Tourism Good way to identify what it is.

Travel Destination, I think covers it well also.

We need a category for Tourist Traps too.  :)

I think travel pics could be the act of travelling or places which attract tourism.

FT has so far been the only agency which sold EL for my travel pics, they do have travel agencies as their customers.

This is Also good: I saw this kind of definition on an agency site as well.

My definition of a travel photo is "when I look at the photo, does it make me want to go there?"
« Last Edit: April 13, 2013, 13:08 by RacePhoto »

« Reply #38 on: April 11, 2013, 22:35 »
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My definition of a travel photo is "when I look at the photo, does it make me want to go there?"
So if you are already there it is not a travel photo?

Well, I suppose if someone took a photo of the inside of my gypsy travel trailer (where I look at other people's photos), I might not be inspired to make an epic journey (an already-there photo).  However, a really nice shot of the swamp down the road might entice me to drive a few miles (travel photo).

« Reply #39 on: April 16, 2013, 11:19 »
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I've lived in New York my entire life (other than college). If I took a photo of Times Square it would be a travel destination (IMHO) even though it's less than an hours' drive or train ride from my house. If I took a macro photo of a flower in a garden in Paris, I wouldn't see it as a travel destination photo. Now, if it was an exotic bloom in the tropics, maybe it would be travel. If I took a sweeping landscape photo of the English moors that would be a travel destination. I think it's more about whether it is something unique to the place or something that could be anywhere. But it can be a close call. Food shots are often used by travel magazines, but you can get Vietnamese food in London and Japanese food in Paris - if a travel magazine is writing about restaurants, these would be travel. But they could be used for other purposes too. It's so subjective.

I have an editorial photo I took when I started with SS through their On the Red Carpet program of someone doing ashiatsu massage at an acting expo that my daughter was attending in NYC. For the past two years it has appeared in Fodor's Guide to Walt Disney World as a thumbnail in their spa section. So you never know.

Here's a link with the photo - I blogged about this subject "Is this Travel Photography?" (June 2012).

http://travelstockphotos.blogspot.com/

No travel keywords - I doubt that travel editors search for "travel" anyway. It's so broad. But I could be wrong.


 

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