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Buzbuzzer


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« Reply #25 on: January 07, 2012, 17:00 »

If someone want me to show him something, i just ask him to show me his ten best pictures.

Then I show him his pics defects and what he need to remove. Most of the time, the Photoshop part is the most discouraging.. 


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« Reply #26 on: January 08, 2012, 00:22 »

First thing i do is send them this link

http://arenacreative.com/blog/photography/microstock-related/can-you-really-make-a-living-selling-microstock-photography/

They never ask again for some reason  Cool


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ShadySue
« Reply #27 on: January 08, 2012, 06:41 »

Another thing would be to show them all the great pics which get accepted but don't get sold (much) on micro, either because they're not really what stock buyers are looking for or because they just get swamped by the competition. I saw one only this week by a poster here which I thought was fantastic and really useful, yet it had only sold a handful of times - and I can hardly imagine the two reasons above applied.


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lisafx
« Reply #28 on: January 09, 2012, 14:17 »

Wow, you guys are really nice people.  I don't bother tutoring people to take my job.  In fact, I am kind of insulted when some relative or acquaintance assumes that just because I make money in microstock, it's super easy and they can do it with their new digicam or entry level plastic DSLR.  I don't assume that just because my cousin is a successful chef that I can do it because I get compliments on my spaghetti sauce  Roll Eyes

The rare occasions that people in the real world express interest in getting into stock photography, I suggest they try Shutterstock, Istockphoto, and Alamy.  I tell them to submit their very best work.  Beyond that, they are on their own.  The few that have bothered to apply have all been rejected.  They see it's not as easy as they thought and give up.

Early on, on Istockphoto, I used to give advice to newbies on my creative network.  Unfortunately, several of them began using my portfolio as their personal source of inspiration.  About the third time that happened, I stopped my "mentoring" activities.  


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SNP


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« Reply #29 on: January 09, 2012, 17:07 »

Give them a 10K shopping list.

yeah, that cuts their interest short pretty quickly. and if it doesn't, the few family members and friends who have thrown a few photos up on iStock lost interest when their first five files didn't garner sales. people don't realize how much work it takes to establish yourself.


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qwerty


« Reply #30 on: January 10, 2012, 02:55 »

you could offer to submit their work for them and take a sustainable 85% of the earnings. Wink


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louoates


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« Reply #31 on: January 11, 2012, 00:03 »

I've discussed stock with those who seemed to be interested in selling their work. They're usually shocked to hear that their sunsets over the ocean vacation snapshots would never sell. I give them the IS web site and ask them to study the categories and let me know which ones they wanted to focus on. I say that they could probably make some money if they could do better, more creative photography in those areas and do it for $1 payments. No, I've never had a second discussion with any of them.


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lisafx
« Reply #32 on: January 11, 2012, 10:28 »

I've discussed stock with those who seemed to be interested in selling their work. They're usually shocked to hear that their sunsets over the ocean vacation snapshots would never sell. I give them the IS web site and ask them to study the categories and let me know which ones they wanted to focus on. I say that they could probably make some money if they could do better, more creative photography in those areas and do it for $1 payments. No, I've never had a second discussion with any of them.

Perfect Lou!  I'm gonna try your method next time Smiley


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ShadySue
« Reply #33 on: January 11, 2012, 10:54 »

I've discussed stock with those who seemed to be interested in selling their work. They're usually shocked to hear that their sunsets over the ocean vacation snapshots would never sell. I give them the IS web site and ask them to study the categories and let me know which ones they wanted to focus on. I say that they could probably make some money if they could do better, more creative photography in those areas and do it for $1 payments. No, I've never had a second discussion with any of them.


Perfect Lou!  I'm gonna try your method next time Smiley


On the other hand, they might check for themselves and think, "I could do that!", in Pollyanna mode.
http://www.istockphoto.com/search/text/sunset%20ocean/source/basic#1e3066eb
http://www.shutterstock.com/cat.mhtml?searchterm=ocean+sunset&x=9&y=13&search_group=&lang=en&search_source=search_form


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TheBlackRhino


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« Reply #34 on: January 12, 2012, 12:12 »

Speaking as an microstock illustrator who also works for microstock photographers on the post-production/submission side, I'd tell them it's grueling, takes a full-time amount of attention and you better adjust your lifestyle to very low standards. However, the reward of full control and the reward of not being at the mercy of 1 client for your projects, is almost worth it.  Cool

This ever happen to you?

They see your work. They find out micro is open to anyone. They take pictures too. They can be a stock photographer!

Then they start asking questions. A lot of questions. About where you sell your images. What kind of DSLR to buy. How to use a DSLR. How to use Photoshop. What sells/doesn't.

What do you normally do?


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