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« on: July 05, 2017, 11:06 »
+6
Good lord, is EVERYBODY on vacation?


Brasilnut

  • Author of the Brutally Honest Guide to Microstock
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2017, 11:23 »
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So far quiet, as expected..

« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2017, 11:32 »
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I was expecting much worse, since yesterday was the 4th of July

« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2017, 11:50 »
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Pretty bad here, yes it was 4th of july holiday... but my july is going bad from day one.
Hope it picks up, we have many days left.

« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2017, 12:58 »
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bad sad dad :'(

« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2017, 13:37 »
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Worst Month Ever so far, after a great May/June.

« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2017, 13:45 »
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Not sure just hired three models for a hospital and hiking shoot so busy keywording those right now. I have two more shoots before I head to Canada next week for two more weeks of stock video shooting, aerials, water sports, city life and such. So I guess July is fine will count the numbers at the end!!

« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2017, 14:31 »
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Worst Month Ever so far, after a great May/June.
You don't think maybe its a bit soon to call after a weekend and Independence day?

« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2017, 14:45 »
+16
How is your August?

« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2017, 15:47 »
+1
Worst Month Ever so far, after a great May/June.

If you can predict the end results of July with 27 days left I will hire you as my stock broker for the rest of this year!  8)


k_t_g

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« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2017, 22:46 »
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Still average.  :)

« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2017, 23:26 »
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Worst Month Ever so far, after a great May/June.
You don't think maybe its a bit soon to call after a weekend and Independence day?

Most of my sales are non US. Still, maybe the weekend/Independence day combo is a perfect storm for lack of sales.

substancep

  • Medical, science, nature, and macro photography

« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2017, 23:40 »
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July might as well be over now. Y'all should be focusing on how your December sales have been going.

« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2017, 02:51 »
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5 subs in the last 7 days, haven't just hit the wall I've exploded into a thousand pieces! Even DT is beating SS by a factor of 10 and I didn't think I'd ever write that.

« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2017, 03:01 »
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5 subs in the last 7 days, haven't just hit the wall I've exploded into a thousand pieces! Even DT is beating SS by a factor of 10 and I didn't think I'd ever write that.
I just seem to be getting subs lately ...for me recently SS has developed a habit of picking up toward the end of the month I'm hoping the awful start is related to July 4th. Meanwhile I had a bme on Dreamstime something I thought I'd never say again!!!

« Reply #15 on: July 07, 2017, 05:29 »
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5 subs in the last 7 days, haven't just hit the wall I've exploded into a thousand pieces! Even DT is beating SS by a factor of 10 and I didn't think I'd ever write that.
I just seem to be getting subs lately ...for me recently SS has developed a habit of picking up toward the end of the month I'm hoping the awful start is related to July 4th. Meanwhile I had a bme on Dreamstime something I thought I'd never say again!!!

I also had a bme in June at Dreamstime:) although for me it means 12$ (with 23 sales), but before that I had over 2 months of 0 sales there and downloads started to come only after I wrote to the support :P

« Reply #16 on: July 07, 2017, 05:31 »
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5 subs in the last 7 days, haven't just hit the wall I've exploded into a thousand pieces! Even DT is beating SS by a factor of 10 and I didn't think I'd ever write that.

How many images do you have in your port?? You often complain about zero days - did you have better times with SS?


« Reply #17 on: July 10, 2017, 06:44 »
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How is your August?

Very good question.
Actually it gave me a very good idea.
It will be great to organize "Contributors lottery" like this:
Every contributor will pay 1% of his monthly income (or some small fixed ammount in case of 0 income) to the lottery fund.
By doing that he/she gets right to compete in a game "guess your next month's income on agency XY"
Contributors with 0 sales in previous months who predict 0 sales in next month will be disqualified (no money back).
Winner will be the person with the most accurate income prediction.
No other rules will be applied, everything is allowed including buying of your opponents images.

p.s. Off course that I am not serious, but I see this as an only opportunity to raise my monthly income from stock  ::)
« Last Edit: July 10, 2017, 09:41 by Android Marvin (formerly mb) »

MG

« Reply #18 on: July 10, 2017, 14:17 »
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My July will be as it was 8 years ago when I started :-(


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« Reply #19 on: July 11, 2017, 02:49 »
+2
Dire.  :(

« Reply #20 on: July 11, 2017, 09:41 »
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june ended badly and it continues, a full month of this crap and i will hit figures of 10 years back,

« Reply #21 on: July 14, 2017, 14:29 »
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Sales have picked up for me, back to normal.

« Reply #22 on: July 14, 2017, 14:40 »
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Same as June. Really bad for me.

Shelma1

« Reply #23 on: July 14, 2017, 15:04 »
+2
 :'(

« Reply #24 on: July 14, 2017, 17:13 »
+7
:'(

I haven't shed tears yet, I am more like:  >:( then  :( then back to  >:(

« Reply #25 on: July 15, 2017, 08:13 »
+8
Right now, this month looks to be what I made back in February of 2014.  And that's a third less than last month.  Horrendous.

« Reply #26 on: July 15, 2017, 09:39 »
+2
5 subs in the last 7 days, haven't just hit the wall I've exploded into a thousand pieces! Even DT is beating SS by a factor of 10 and I didn't think I'd ever write that.

How many images do you have in your port?? You often complain about zero days - did you have better times with SS?


1,824 and yes there have been better times where a zero day was years ago and sales were 5-10 times higher.


« Reply #27 on: July 15, 2017, 11:42 »
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5 subs in the last 7 days, haven't just hit the wall I've exploded into a thousand pieces! Even DT is beating SS by a factor of 10 and I didn't think I'd ever write that.

How many images do you have in your port?? You often complain about zero days - did you have better times with SS?


1,824 and yes there have been better times where a zero day was years ago and sales were 5-10 times higher.

 :(

« Reply #28 on: July 15, 2017, 14:35 »
+3
Not good! and its not going to get better! I think micro finally has leveled out and become exactly what it is. A jumble sale of pics.

« Reply #29 on: July 15, 2017, 15:17 »
+1
Not good! and its not going to get better! I think micro finally has leveled out and become exactly what it is. A jumble sale of pics.

A junk yard sale more like.

« Reply #30 on: July 15, 2017, 15:30 »
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Its pretty dead, but it is also dead in video, where  there is hardly any competition with only 7 million files.

I think this is the summer slump.

It will pick up again in September.

« Reply #31 on: July 15, 2017, 20:45 »
+9

It will pick up again in September.

I wouldn't count on it picking up in September. My gut feeling is telling me this is the new norm for this business...

« Reply #32 on: July 15, 2017, 23:35 »
+5

It will pick up again in September.

I wouldn't count on it picking up in September. My gut feeling is telling me this is the new norm for this business...
Demand for images can't just vanish overnight. Not without a global economic calamity. But I agree it doesn't feel good.

« Reply #33 on: July 16, 2017, 00:49 »
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50% down  >:(

« Reply #34 on: July 17, 2017, 19:31 »
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Zero days and huge spikes.

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steheap

  • Author of best selling "Get Started in Stock"

« Reply #35 on: July 17, 2017, 19:48 »
+5
90% down for me!

Of course, I have no idea what the question was, but I thought the answer was in keeping with the rest of the thread.

Steve

« Reply #36 on: July 17, 2017, 23:49 »
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I expected July to be the worst month of the year, and it's been that way download-wise across the board. Earnings were boosted by a few big downloads, so it's on pace to matching or even surpassing June.

It does give me optimism that even in my worst month, it's decent. Once August and September rolls around, everything will pick up again.


« Reply #37 on: July 18, 2017, 00:19 »
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90% down for me!

Of course, I have no idea what the question was, but I thought the answer was in keeping with the rest of the thread.

Steve

lol

Congratulalion Steve, you have got your badge of professional grouch!
« Last Edit: July 18, 2017, 00:24 by Chichikov »

« Reply #38 on: July 18, 2017, 00:23 »
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I expected July to be the worst month of the year, and it's been that way download-wise across the board. Earnings were boosted by a few big downloads, so it's on pace to matching or even surpassing June.

It does give me optimism that even in my worst month, it's decent. Once August and September rolls around, everything will pick up again.
The last few months have been like that for me potential awful months saved by (relatively) big value sales often from some expected sources. Bit concerned this is luck and might stop but $s are $s.

« Reply #39 on: July 18, 2017, 00:27 »
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I expected July to be the worst month of the year, and it's been that way download-wise across the board. Earnings were boosted by a few big downloads, so it's on pace to matching or even surpassing June.

It does give me optimism that even in my worst month, it's decent. Once August and September rolls around, everything will pick up again.
The last few months have been like that for me potential awful months saved by (relatively) big value sales often from some expected sources. Bit concerned this is luck and might stop but $s are $s.

You are not alone in this.
More and more it is becoming a trend: bad month + unexpected big sale(s) on Alamy, FAA or Pond5 = good month. Bingo!

More and more the microstock industry looks like a lottery

« Reply #40 on: July 18, 2017, 00:29 »
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SS and Adobe working together??  who knows but there are scary similarities sometimes. Feeding these two beasts results in absolutely nothing nowadays. The middle and lower tier agencies try harder and myself and a few pals have been uploading to DP and DT now for some time and DP is beginning to show a really good rise with last month seeing some $520!  not often you get that amount from a middle tier agency.

We are all so consumed and taken with the likes of SS and Adobe/Ft that we tend to forget the others who in fact have not yet lent themselves to all the search crap and dealings.

« Reply #41 on: July 18, 2017, 00:40 »
+1
SS and Adobe working together??  who knows but there are scary similarities sometimes. Feeding these two beasts results in absolutely nothing nowadays. The middle and lower tier agencies try harder and myself and a few pals have been uploading to DP and DT now for some time and DP is beginning to show a really good rise with last month seeing some $520!  not often you get that amount from a middle tier agency.

We are all so consumed and taken with the likes of SS and Adobe/Ft that we tend to forget the others who in fact have not yet lent themselves to all the search crap and dealings.
"we tend to forget the others who in fact have not yet lent themselves to all the search crap and dealings." yeah right......DT and DP never do that sort of thing..... ::)

« Reply #42 on: July 18, 2017, 01:40 »
+1
Why dont some of you here rather start uploading to the macro industry Rm/Rf agencies. I know many do but I mean that the actual cream of the crop should go there and then the secondary material into micro. Many people I know have started to work like that.

« Reply #43 on: July 18, 2017, 04:13 »
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Sales are nice for me at moment , I also had an extended licence sale and some nice sales at Alamy.
For the rest I'm having the usual amount of subs downloads at SS and AS.
I'm also waiting for the iStock notification for the june sales.
For now July seems better than june

« Reply #44 on: July 18, 2017, 08:52 »
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« Reply #45 on: July 19, 2017, 02:23 »
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Why dont some of you here rather start uploading to the macro industry Rm/Rf agencies. I know many do but I mean that the actual cream of the crop should go there and then the secondary material into micro. Many people I know have started to work like that.

do you have any recommendations apart from Alamy? Everyone would love to get into Stocksy but it seems they don't open submissions very often.

« Reply #46 on: July 19, 2017, 02:50 »
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I was expecting a low July but not 75% down, compared with the previous months :|


« Reply #47 on: July 19, 2017, 06:15 »
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Why dont some of you here rather start uploading to the macro industry Rm/Rf agencies. I know many do but I mean that the actual cream of the crop should go there and then the secondary material into micro. Many people I know have started to work like that.

do you have any recommendations apart from Alamy? Everyone would love to get into Stocksy but it seems they don't open submissions very often.


I would say Alamy is probably the worst place of them all to upload . They are 80% editorial and creative dont seem to sell at all. Stocksy? I know some people there but they hardly earn any money. I recon they will have to turn a bit more commercial.
I think you want to turn to the specialized agencies they are tough to get into but once there it pays handsomely. Trevelyan, SPL, Blend, Arcangel to name a few. They are also aggregators to Getty etc.


« Last Edit: July 19, 2017, 06:19 by derek »

« Reply #48 on: July 19, 2017, 07:02 »
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Why dont some of you here rather start uploading to the macro industry Rm/Rf agencies. I know many do but I mean that the actual cream of the crop should go there and then the secondary material into micro. Many people I know have started to work like that.

do you have any recommendations apart from Alamy? Everyone would love to get into Stocksy but it seems they don't open submissions very often.


I would say Alamy is probably the worst place of them all to upload . They are 80% editorial and creative dont seem to sell at all. Stocksy? I know some people there but they hardly earn any money. I recon they will have to turn a bit more commercial.
I think you want to turn to the specialized agencies they are tough to get into but once there it pays handsomely. Trevelyan, SPL, Blend, Arcangel to name a few. They are also aggregators to Getty etc.

blend images sell in micro stock mostly nowadays.....trevel and archangel if you think they sell handsomely you are smoking something very good.....do you think that customer buy rm who they can buy rf for penny?
i browse often in micro portfolio and i still have to see somebody really with a portfolio who could dwell in a specialized agency.
documentary and editorial you can earn good money if you are with some good agency but you spend a lot to finance your project.
lifestyle you must be superb to succeed in a rm agency, most of the stuff i see in rf is very normal

you talk a lot of rm agency but what is our experience? before create false myth you should at least have some real clue.

« Reply #49 on: July 19, 2017, 07:30 »
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I was expecting a low July but not 75% down, compared with the previous months :|

Agree. Never seen it like this in 10 years. With SS I am at about $200, I'm generally three times that at this point in the month.

« Reply #50 on: July 19, 2017, 10:22 »
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I was expecting a low July but not 75% down, compared with the previous months :|

Agree. Never seen it like this in 10 years. With SS I am at about $200, I'm generally three times that at this point in the month.

Try $80 and predicted to $143 by months end :(

« Reply #51 on: July 19, 2017, 10:51 »
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Right now, this month looks to be what I made back in February of 2014.  And that's a third less than last month.  Horrendous.

SLP, if I were you with portfolio @ Stocksy, I would not give a R@T$@SS over $h*tterstock. But I can relate to you and all the other old timers, shortfalls all like a stampede going over the cliff.  And with no one to replace SS & IS, it looks bleak . I'd more or less given up, and just sip my pina colada and bask in the tropical sun!  No point being a monkey worrying over stale peanuts. 8)

« Reply #52 on: July 19, 2017, 14:01 »
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horrendous

« Reply #53 on: July 19, 2017, 21:01 »
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Worst ever month for me...

« Reply #54 on: July 20, 2017, 02:13 »
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Truly awful. Haven't seen anything like this for years. SS especially bad. :(

« Reply #55 on: July 20, 2017, 02:25 »
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Its pretty dead, but it is also dead in video, where  there is hardly any competition with only 7 million files.
I think this is the summer slump.
It will pick up again in September.

Photos are dead in July, but videos are nicely holding strong.
Perhaps because my videos are pretty new.

« Reply #56 on: July 20, 2017, 02:55 »
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Ive only been selling for 11 months, but July has been my best month by far (up 50% on previous month), and there's still 11 days to go!


SpaceStockFootage

  • Space, Sci-Fi and Astronomy Related Stock Footage

« Reply #57 on: July 20, 2017, 04:51 »
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Tumbleweed rolling through my stats.

« Reply #58 on: July 20, 2017, 05:20 »
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P5 has been selling almost every day this last week, which is really strange because it's been really bad for me for 6 months or so...

Views are as low as usual, but for some reason people are buying.

« Reply #59 on: July 20, 2017, 06:59 »
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this month am selling practically only files with small digit uploaded 10 years ago...till june only file uploaded in 2016 2017....clearly they managed to kill sales in some way.

« Reply #60 on: July 20, 2017, 07:10 »
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Right now, this month looks to be what I made back in February of 2014.  And that's a third less than last month.  Horrendous.

SLP, if I were you with portfolio @ Stocksy, I would not give a R@T$@SS over $h*tterstock. But I can relate to you and all the other old timers, shortfalls all like a stampede going over the cliff.  And with no one to replace SS & IS, it looks bleak . I'd more or less given up, and just sip my pina colada and bask in the tropical sun!  No point being a monkey worrying over stale peanuts. 8)

SS and the micros tended to cover items like my studio rental and monthly health insurance, but now they won't even do that.  It's an issue.

cascoly

  • Photography, travel & online games at cascoly.com

« Reply #61 on: July 20, 2017, 11:46 »
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worst month in 2 years - SS has had few EL et al which usually balance the drop in subs

Tryingmybest

  • Stand up for what is right
« Reply #62 on: July 20, 2017, 12:51 »
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Slow, but going daily. I'm down half since last year. But i had a part time job that took up all my time that I normally might draw. So submissions are down to zero.

« Reply #63 on: July 20, 2017, 13:57 »
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worst month in 8 years

« Reply #64 on: July 20, 2017, 14:11 »
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probably even 10-11 years, can't get myself to look it up, dont want to know.,

« Reply #65 on: July 20, 2017, 17:41 »
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personally is in line with july 2015 a s...t month...what surprises me  is the fact i not sell nothing uploaded in the last 2 years, much better content, but the only stuff i sell is very old files...till june it was complete the opposite.
i must wait another change of algorithm

« Reply #66 on: Yesterday at 01:07 »
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Why dont some of you here rather start uploading to the macro industry Rm/Rf agencies. I know many do but I mean that the actual cream of the crop should go there and then the secondary material into micro. Many people I know have started to work like that.

do you have any recommendations apart from Alamy? Everyone would love to get into Stocksy but it seems they don't open submissions very often.


I would say Alamy is probably the worst place of them all to upload . They are 80% editorial and creative dont seem to sell at all. Stocksy? I know some people there but they hardly earn any money. I recon they will have to turn a bit more commercial.
I think you want to turn to the specialized agencies they are tough to get into but once there it pays handsomely. Trevelyan, SPL, Blend, Arcangel to name a few. They are also aggregators to Getty etc.

blend images sell in micro stock mostly nowadays.....trevel and archangel if you think they sell handsomely you are smoking something very good.....do you think that customer buy rm who they can buy rf for penny?
i browse often in micro portfolio and i still have to see somebody really with a portfolio who could dwell in a specialized agency.
documentary and editorial you can earn good money if you are with some good agency but you spend a lot to finance your project.
lifestyle you must be superb to succeed in a rm agency, most of the stuff i see in rf is very normal

you talk a lot of rm agency but what is our experience? before create false myth you should at least have some real clue.

Well matey! whatever I', smoking my RM's sell a heck of a lot better there then anywhere else. Its a matter of your port isnt it. You got niched material it tend to sell but if youre trying to flog big-ben I supposed it dont. I dont know what you shoot? flowers perhaps? well then it wont sell.


« Reply #67 on: Yesterday at 13:46 »
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SS and the micros tended to cover items like my studio rental and monthly health insurance, but now they won't even do that.  It's an issue.

an issue is that, for certain ! agree too, microstock (ss ,is) paid up my equipment .but now, i have no intentions to buying anymore equipment, field or studio. no point as the future is bleak to me. unless a new agency comes to be what ss , or is , used to be . won't hold my breath for that, either !

« Reply #68 on: Today at 00:54 »
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Sorry Sean
« Last Edit: Today at 00:59 by rinderart »

« Reply #69 on: Today at 01:01 »
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Welcome back...much as I don't like some of your posts ;-). I think you are right though I'm very surprised that many of  those that do photography as a means of making a full time living don't diversify. As someone who does this for a few extra $ I'm still doing enough for it to be worthwhile....but could easily not last.


 

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