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Title: NEWBIE: My first 20 Days in Shutterstock Gave me 3 Downloads.
Post by: natureshooter on July 05, 2018, 05:13
Hey Guys,

Newbie here. I got 3 downloads for my first 20 days in shutterstock, I just started last June 20, 2018. Is this a good indication that I will have a brighter future like....I desire to earn at least $300-500 (monthly) from shutterstock alone. My photos are consist of travel, landscape, people (editorial), nature, and some underwater soon. For now I have already 95 pictures in shutterstock since I started last week. I am going to upload more until I reach a thousand. Thanks a lot in advance for your ideas.

CHEERS!

Title: Re: NEWBIE: My first 20 Days in Shutterstock Gave me 3 Downloads.
Post by: qwerty on July 05, 2018, 05:31
ummm   well best of luck.
You want ideas ? 
Shoot and upload images that sell, cant be that hard right.
Title: Re: NEWBIE: My first 20 Days in Shutterstock Gave me 3 Downloads.
Post by: dirkr on July 05, 2018, 05:41
Travel, landscape, nature....
Out of my own experience I‘d say for an expectation of $300-500 better plan for 10.000 photos. You may have exceptional work and do better, or you may do worse...
Good luck!
Title: Re: NEWBIE: My first 20 Days in Shutterstock Gave me 3 Downloads.
Post by: SpaceStockFootage on July 05, 2018, 05:43
Just upload the best content you can and as much as you can... then review in a year. Well, review all the time to get an idea of what's selling and what's not, but from a how much can i earn/is this profitable standpoint... you'd be better giving it a lot longer than three weeks.
Title: Re: NEWBIE: My first 20 Days in Shutterstock Gave me 3 Downloads.
Post by: jonbull on July 05, 2018, 05:54
if you don't have superb portfolio, with places uncovered by the library, or unique photos, is a total waste of time...maybe you can reach 100 200 , but the work you have to put on this will be heavy and time consuming.
Title: Re: NEWBIE: My first 20 Days in Shutterstock Gave me 3 Downloads.
Post by: Brasilnut on July 05, 2018, 06:42
May we see a link to your port and give you suggestions?

Underwater may be the most profitable of the categories you've listed but depends on a million factors.
Title: Re: NEWBIE: My first 20 Days in Shutterstock Gave me 3 Downloads.
Post by: Pauws99 on July 05, 2018, 07:21
That's an extremely ambitious target you've set you will need to work very hard and very smart to get there.  You need to be amongst the top few % of contributors to get there.
Title: Re: NEWBIE: My first 20 Days in Shutterstock Gave me 3 Downloads.
Post by: THP Creative on July 05, 2018, 09:36
All the best with it. Be prepared to upload a lot more high quality images, and give it time as well.

Title: Re: NEWBIE: My first 20 Days in Shutterstock Gave me 3 Downloads.
Post by: fritz on July 05, 2018, 09:38
You'll need only 19905 CV files to achieve your goal ($300-$500) Good luck
Title: Re: NEWBIE: My first 20 Days in Shutterstock Gave me 3 Downloads.
Post by: Uncle Pete on July 05, 2018, 09:48
Travel, landscape, nature....
Out of my own experience I‘d say for an expectation of $300-500 better plan for 10.000 photos. You may have exceptional work and do better, or you may do worse...
Good luck!

I think that and the rest of the comments are more realistic. The new member boost is real, anyone who starts and thinks the same return will last or be proportional is going to get a wake up slap in about a year. RPI is not flat or equal as the portfolio grows.

I'd like to see some day what NatureShooter shoots. I mean that's a nice area and I'm sure enjoyable. But also like birds, they are everywhere and free. I know that offends some people, but if you shoot something that nearly anyone, with the right tools, knowledge and effort can go out and shoot, your competition is limitless. Nature is like shooting food, you need shots that are different, needed by buyers, useful, and stand out.
Title: Re: NEWBIE: My first 20 Days in Shutterstock Gave me 3 Downloads.
Post by: EssexVIG on July 05, 2018, 13:39
You say you are looking for sales of $3-500/month, not sure what the bulk of your sales are, but 25 cents seems to be the norm for myself, so given that, to get $300/month I would have to sell  a total of 1,200 photos! So I think you would need to rethink the size of your portfolio unless you are confident that you have shots that are a cut above the rest.
Title: Re: NEWBIE: My first 20 Days in Shutterstock Gave me 3 Downloads.
Post by: SpaceStockFootage on July 05, 2018, 20:13
The new member boost is not real, FYI.
Title: Re: NEWBIE: My first 20 Days in Shutterstock Gave me 3 Downloads.
Post by: Groucho on July 06, 2018, 03:55
Hi natureshooter,

Like you, I shoot mainly travel, landscape and nature images.

My annual RPI on Shutterstock is $0.75. So, I would need to have at least 5000 images on Shutterstock to get $300 per month.

But, half of my revenues come from my 1% bestselling images. So, If you have only awesome images, you can get $300 per month with 100 to 150 images :-*

Title: Re: NEWBIE: My first 20 Days in Shutterstock Gave me 3 Downloads.
Post by: cthoman on July 06, 2018, 09:51
Should the joke be that you need 1000 good images to make that per month, then 10,000 good images a month after that to maintain it?  :o
Title: Re: NEWBIE: My first 20 Days in Shutterstock Gave me 3 Downloads.
Post by: ShadySue on July 07, 2018, 03:46
Newbie here. I got 3 downloads for my first 20 days in shutterstock,
I'll say it again, I really admire the optimism and tenacity of newbies nowadays. I'd likely have given up with 3 dls in my first 20 days.

Still, I was excited with my early sales (iS, never SS) and doing sums on the backs of envelopes to work out a projection, which seemed good then. The reality (more than you're talking about, on average, but on iS, after I passed 3k photos) matched my excitement - for a short time. I kept uploading, (reluctantly) changing my style to more closely match micro style, and the sales followed. Then all manner of sh*t happened, most of which (e.g. drops in prices and royalties, changes in policy) were totally out of my control. Now earning c1/3 of what I was back then. Today is a totally different reality.

You need to see what you can do which is better for your subject matter than what's already out there (but know that it's not always the 'best' pic which is chosen, but the image which best suits a layout), be shooting what buyers actually want (you may well have the only photo of the Lesser Blotchy-backed Twitchy bird, but buyers likely won't be looking in SS to buy it, and the one sale in a decade netting you 25c isn't going to pay your accountant's fee), and you need to be lucky with search positioning. This latter is far more important than I initially believed. I've had two photos go from selling every day on average to selling fewer than once a month overnight because of sinking to the bottom of the Best Match algorithm (both files for years in the top five in the best match for their main keyword). Neither file has recovered best match or sales since.

Keep realistic - with your subject matter (which is also mine),  you'll find it hard to earn that amount of money nowadays. However, if you switched to producing the high demand images (model/property released), you'd be competing with a LOT of very experienced producers, and you'd likely have a lot of outlay (totally different equipment needed).
Title: Re: NEWBIE: My first 20 Days in Shutterstock Gave me 3 Downloads.
Post by: ShadySue on July 07, 2018, 04:12
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Title: Re: NEWBIE: My first 20 Days in Shutterstock Gave me 3 Downloads.
Post by: pkphotos on July 08, 2018, 05:53
Based on my own stats as a travel photographer, you'll need 75,000+ plus photos to achieve your goal
Title: Re: NEWBIE: My first 20 Days in Shutterstock Gave me 3 Downloads.
Post by: jonbull on July 09, 2018, 06:44
75000 to make 300 500 dollar months' better check the quality ad interest of your content really...with less than a 10 of photos i make much more at months.
Title: Re: NEWBIE: My first 20 Days in Shutterstock Gave me 3 Downloads.
Post by: namussi on July 09, 2018, 07:26
75000 to make 300 500 dollar months' better check the quality ad interest of your content really...with less than a 10 of photos i make much more at months.

Gibberish.
Title: Re: NEWBIE: My first 20 Days in Shutterstock Gave me 3 Downloads.
Post by: jonbull on July 09, 2018, 07:30
75000 to make 300 500 dollar months' better check the quality ad interest of your content really...with less than a 10 of photos i make much more at months.

Gibberish.

maybe yours. loser.
Title: Re: NEWBIE: My first 20 Days in Shutterstock Gave me 3 Downloads.
Post by: namussi on July 09, 2018, 08:44
75000 to make 300 500 dollar months' better check the quality ad interest of your content really...with less than a 10 of photos i make much more at months.

Gibberish.

maybe yours. loser.



No idea what that means, either.

Your posts don't make sense. They are badly written.
Title: Re: NEWBIE: My first 20 Days in Shutterstock Gave me 3 Downloads.
Post by: jonbull on July 09, 2018, 10:47
75000 to make 300 500 dollar months' better check the quality ad interest of your content really...with less than a 10 of photos i make much more at months.

Gibberish.

maybe yours. loser.



No idea what that means, either.

Your posts don't make sense. They are badly written.


i don't care
Title: Re: NEWBIE: My first 20 Days in Shutterstock Gave me 3 Downloads.
Post by: jonbull on July 09, 2018, 10:48
75000 to make 300 500 dollar months' better check the quality ad interest of your content really...with less than a 10 of photos i make much more at months.

Gibberish.

maybe yours. loser.



No idea what that means, either.

Your posts don't make sense. They are badly written.

keyboard warrior.
Title: Re: NEWBIE: My first 20 Days in Shutterstock Gave me 3 Downloads.
Post by: jonbull on July 09, 2018, 10:49
75000 to make 300 500 dollar months' better check the quality ad interest of your content really...with less than a 10 of photos i make much more at months.

Gibberish.

maybe yours. loser.



No idea what that means, either.

Your posts don't make sense. They are badly written.
better

Title: Re: NEWBIE: My first 20 Days in Shutterstock Gave me 3 Downloads.
Post by: Microstock Posts on July 09, 2018, 12:33
I got 3 downloads for my first 20 days in shutterstock, I just started last June 20, 2018.

I got 35 downloads for my first 20 days in shutterstock, I just started last April, 2009. ;)

Back in 2009, 35 downloads in the first 20 days wasn't worth a forum post.
Title: Re: NEWBIE: My first 20 Days in Shutterstock Gave me 3 Downloads.
Post by: Dumc on July 09, 2018, 12:45
Out of curiosity, I checked my first 20 days. 25 downloads. April 2014
Title: Re: NEWBIE: My first 20 Days in Shutterstock Gave me 3 Downloads.
Post by: derek on July 09, 2018, 13:28
Welcome to the club!  and when you've risen to the 0.38c brigade producing good commercial content you will be happy to know that all of a sudden it all comes to a stand-still, no movement at all and sales will be more scarse then in the beginning!

Yep! its a tough place where years of hard work is NOT rewarded at all!!

Good luck with it and sorry if I put the dampers on the dream! :) :)
Title: Re: NEWBIE: My first 20 Days in Shutterstock Gave me 3 Downloads.
Post by: namussi on July 09, 2018, 22:39
75000 to make 300 500 dollar months' better check the quality ad interest of your content really...with less than a 10 of photos i make much more at months.

Gibberish.

maybe yours. loser.



No idea what that means, either.

Your posts don't make sense. They are badly written.

keyboard warrior.

So why do you bother posting comments if people don't understand them because they're badly written?

That seems like a waste of time.



Title: Re: NEWBIE: My first 20 Days in Shutterstock Gave me 3 Downloads.
Post by: Pauws99 on July 10, 2018, 02:42
I only had 11 in the first month in 2011....on the plus side though one was for $28....I wonder what the chances of that are now?
Title: Re: NEWBIE: My first 20 Days in Shutterstock Gave me 3 Downloads.
Post by: ShadySue on July 10, 2018, 05:44
75000 to make 300 500 dollar months' better check the quality ad interest of your content really...with less than a 10 of photos i make much more at months.

Gibberish.

maybe yours. loser.



No idea what that means, either.

Your posts don't make sense. They are badly written.

keyboard warrior.

So why do you bother posting comments if people don't understand them because they're badly written?

That seems like a waste of time.
I've always assumed s/he (I'm guessing 'he') is not a native English speaker.
Title: Re: NEWBIE: My first 20 Days in Shutterstock Gave me 3 Downloads.
Post by: jonbull on July 10, 2018, 05:55
75000 to make 300 500 dollar months' better check the quality ad interest of your content really...with less than a 10 of photos i make much more at months.

Gibberish.

maybe yours. loser.



No idea what that means, either.

Your posts don't make sense. They are badly written.

keyboard warrior.

So why do you bother posting comments if people don't understand them because they're badly written?

That seems like a waste of time.
I've always assumed s/he (I'm guessing 'he') is not a native English speaker.

thanks yes and i often write with phone.

anyway i said that 75000 images to make 300 dollar month it means you have a problem with contents. namussi is just a lain troll.
Title: Re: NEWBIE: My first 20 Days in Shutterstock Gave me 3 Downloads.
Post by: cathyslife on July 11, 2018, 07:02
You can proofread before hitting send on that phone. 😀
Title: Re: NEWBIE: My first 20 Days in Shutterstock Gave me 3 Downloads.
Post by: SpaceStockFootage on July 11, 2018, 08:48
Not sure if that's par for the course with images, but 5 cents per image, per year... does seem pretty low.
Title: Re: NEWBIE: My first 20 Days in Shutterstock Gave me 3 Downloads.
Post by: Pauws99 on July 11, 2018, 09:22
Not sure if that's par for the course with images, but 5 cents per image, per year... does seem pretty low.
par is not a bad analogy...its probably what an amateur hacking round a course on a Sunday might get but to reach a level where you can actually make serious money at it requires more work.......