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« Reply #25 on: November 23, 2018, 09:50 »
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ss is earning money..simply put there are more and more files and more nd more desperate contributors especially coming from russia and ukraine who upload zillions of files and the cake is simply spread...zero entry barrier and low cost make this possible.  micro apart one rare case i'd  say 100 200 big contributor will be just an hobby for all the rest.

Don't forget India...  ::) Have you been to SS forum lately? Not too long ago it was crowded with new threads by new Indian contributors asking how to get sales.


Uncle Pete

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« Reply #26 on: November 23, 2018, 09:59 »
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Suhcky-doodle-do.

 ;D And a Happy Thanksgiving to you.

« Reply #27 on: November 23, 2018, 10:28 »
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ss is earning money..simply put there are more and more files and more nd more desperate contributors especially coming from russia and ukraine who upload zillions of files and the cake is simply spread...zero entry barrier and low cost make this possible.  micro apart one rare case i'd  say 100 200 big contributor will be just an hobby for all the rest.

Don't forget India...  ::) Have you been to SS forum lately? Not too long ago it was crowded with new threads by new Indian contributors asking how to get sales.

i know that when i look th new images added in ss and fotolia 7 out of 10 come from russia or ukraine....as i said...most have apartment inherited by parents after soietic collapse...with 600 700 dollars they can easily live a life that in western county would cost 1800 2000 dollar...sure not luxury but better than go work in offie for 500 8 hours day for 5 days a week...thusand of model available for penny...cheap studio to rent and now cheap superb chinese study light...that's it...while in western world micro stock seems like a dead horse..in many country is still a valid opportunity.

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« Reply #28 on: November 23, 2018, 12:54 »
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Its true!  SS  is collecting all the garbage under the sun! pics that normally would be thrown away are accepted all over the place.

Uncle Pete

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« Reply #29 on: November 23, 2018, 13:11 »
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I thought I would start the topic for November sales. Sadly, due to poor sales on Shutter my November looks to be worse that what I made even compared to 2014/2015 years. I am sure there will be newbie's claiming BME but I wonder how the veteran's are doing?

Thought you might be interested in October 2014 poll numbers:

Shutterstock    94.7
iStock    36.5
Fotolia    20.7
Dreamstime    13.6 
Pond5    12.6
123RF    10 
Alamy    8.3
DepositPhotos    6.9
Bigstockphoto    6.9
Envato    4.2
Canstockphoto    3.7
Veer    3.6 

IS Exclusive 141.2

Some up, most down,
Adobe double up from FT

If I'm reading right, SS, IS, DT all down $500 a month for the poll?

« Reply #30 on: November 23, 2018, 15:11 »
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ss is earning money..simply put there are more and more files and more nd more desperate contributors especially coming from russia and ukraine who upload zillions of files and the cake is simply spread...zero entry barrier and low cost make this possible.  micro apart one rare case i'd  say 100 200 big contributor will be just an hobby for all the rest.

Good for Russian and Ukraine contributors, if they work hard they deserve to be succesful at this game. Not like others that are always moaning about how hard life is because of others: ucranians,russians,the search engine, obscure agendas,bla bla bla.
Get your act together or pack you bags and go if you don't know how to swim in this sea.

« Reply #31 on: November 23, 2018, 16:05 »
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Same here mate! fallen through the floor!!  with the exception of Fotolia!...its the same everywhere right across the board almost!
Everywhere else is fairly average for me. I think Adobe may well be giving SS some serious competition at last.

I sincerely hope so! its about time somebody else makes a mark and impose some serious competition.

It depends. If they end up competing on price then we are lost.
I don't think Adobe is the type of business that will compete on price. In the long run it doesn't benefit agencies either. Hope I'm right. Also with no competition agencies can also dictate the price they pay contributors...unless you have a more rosy view of human nature that's not good for us either.

« Reply #32 on: November 23, 2018, 19:15 »
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ss is earning money..simply put there are more and more files and more nd more desperate contributors especially coming from russia and ukraine who upload zillions of files and the cake is simply spread...zero entry barrier and low cost make this possible.  micro apart one rare case i'd  say 100 200 big contributor will be just an hobby for all the rest.

Good for Russian and Ukraine contributors, if they work hard they deserve to be succesful at this game. Not like others that are always moaning about how hard life is because of others: ucranians,russians,the search engine, obscure agendas,bla bla bla.
Get your act together or pack you bags and go if you don't know how to swim in this sea.

ahh you don't understand the point....they work hard to earn 500 dollar because they can survive..im working pretty hard...im still working now friday at 2 o clock...the point is we are competing with people who pay zero   for shooting...probably even taxes in out cases and have cost of life 2 3 times less than us...but are paid in dollars and earn like us...is not possible to compete...

« Reply #33 on: November 23, 2018, 19:18 »
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by the way 145 sub in a row ...never happened something similar...not even some 2.85 to break the monotony...when it rains it pours down...maybe they simply has ne bargain subs plan?

derek

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« Reply #34 on: November 24, 2018, 02:44 »
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johnbull!  is actually correct on this one!!....$10 bucks a day goes a heck of a long way in these parts of the world and consequently these guys are uploading like crazy, quitting day-jobs everything! just to sit there 24 hours uploading!!....well in our parts of the world we havent got time for that, life is too fast and too expensive for small returns.
Of course SS will favour the people uploading full-time!....its obvious!

« Reply #35 on: November 24, 2018, 03:07 »
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This is a consequence of globalization. You knew that when you entered the "collaborative economy" where microstock is an excellent example. You have to compete with the world and that means that you have advantages and disadvantages against people that live in other countries. I life  from stock for over 11 years now in an expensive european country with an average all this years of 5k+, the good years much more. I will be playing till I can and when it is not more doable I will look for something else.

By the way "microstock stars" that come from very expensive countries and cities like Denmark,London,etc have adapted. If that means to go to Ukraine or Southafrica then be it. Now to pretend to live in London photographing beauty or food for microstock is a suicide if you ask me. 

ss is earning money..simply put there are more and more files and more nd more desperate contributors especially coming from russia and ukraine who upload zillions of files and the cake is simply spread...zero entry barrier and low cost make this possible.  micro apart one rare case i'd  say 100 200 big contributor will be just an hobby for all the rest.

Good for Russian and Ukraine contributors, if they work hard they deserve to be succesful at this game. Not like others that are always moaning about how hard life is because of others: ucranians,russians,the search engine, obscure agendas,bla bla bla.
Get your act together or pack you bags and go if you don't know how to swim in this sea.

ahh you don't understand the point....they work hard to earn 500 dollar because they can survive..im working pretty hard...im still working now friday at 2 o clock...the point is we are competing with people who pay zero   for shooting...probably even taxes in out cases and have cost of life 2 3 times less than us...but are paid in dollars and earn like us...is not possible to compete...

derek

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« Reply #36 on: November 24, 2018, 04:22 »
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Haha! yes in London $10 just about pay for 2 lagers in a Pub!....in countries like Sweden and Norway a coffee is like $7 and a beer in a Pub around $10, one stop on the underground in Stockholm $10!

« Reply #37 on: November 24, 2018, 04:25 »
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Haha! yes in London $10 just about pay for 2 lagers in a Pub!....in countries like Sweden and Norway a coffee is like $7 and a beer in a Pub around $10, one stop on the underground in Stockholm $10!
"Craft Beer" is the thing now....$10 would be a bargain!

derek

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« Reply #38 on: November 24, 2018, 07:16 »
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Haha! yes in London $10 just about pay for 2 lagers in a Pub!....in countries like Sweden and Norway a coffee is like $7 and a beer in a Pub around $10, one stop on the underground in Stockholm $10!
"Craft Beer" is the thing now....$10 would be a bargain!

Craft beer??  whats that??  me I just ask for a pint of bitter or lager and thats it!...you want a pint of Urquel or something in Oslo its about 20 bucks!

« Reply #39 on: November 24, 2018, 07:22 »
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Haha! yes in London $10 just about pay for 2 lagers in a Pub!....in countries like Sweden and Norway a coffee is like $7 and a beer in a Pub around $10, one stop on the underground in Stockholm $10!
"Craft Beer" is the thing now....$10 would be a bargain!

Craft beer??  whats that??  me I just ask for a pint of bitter or lager and thats it!...you want a pint of Urquel or something in Oslo its about 20 bucks!
Get with the hipster trends! Fancy beer brewed by "artisans" in small breweries......

« Reply #40 on: November 24, 2018, 09:17 »
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This is a consequence of globalization. You knew that when you entered the "collaborative economy" where microstock is an excellent example. You have to compete with the world and that means that you have advantages and disadvantages against people that live in other countries. I life  from stock for over 11 years now in an expensive european country with an average all this years of 5k+, the good years much more. I will be playing till I can and when it is not more doable I will look for something else.

By the way "microstock stars" that come from very expensive countries and cities like Denmark,London,etc have adapted. If that means to go to Ukraine or Southafrica then be it. Now to pretend to live in London photographing beauty or food for microstock is a suicide if you ask me. 

ss is earning money..simply put there are more and more files and more nd more desperate contributors especially coming from russia and ukraine who upload zillions of files and the cake is simply spread...zero entry barrier and low cost make this possible.  micro apart one rare case i'd  say 100 200 big contributor will be just an hobby for all the rest.

Good for Russian and Ukraine contributors, if they work hard they deserve to be succesful at this game. Not like others that are always moaning about how hard life is because of others: ucranians,russians,the search engine, obscure agendas,bla bla bla.
Get your act together or pack you bags and go if you don't know how to swim in this sea.

ahh you don't understand the point....they work hard to earn 500 dollar because they can survive..im working pretty hard...im still working now friday at 2 o clock...the point is we are competing with people who pay zero   for shooting...probably even taxes in out cases and have cost of life 2 3 times less than us...but are paid in dollars and earn like us...is not possible to compete...

that's what we talked about...nd and an explanation why in ukraine there are zillions of uploader with 10000000 files each...not because they like working harder , simply because normal work in most cases have starry inferir to 300 dollar...tha's why. just to put things in perspective why icrtostock is finished in general apart some rare cases. i will move soon to kiev for long period and russia too. winter in asia.

« Reply #41 on: November 24, 2018, 09:19 »
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This is a consequence of globalization. You knew that when you entered the "collaborative economy" where microstock is an excellent example. You have to compete with the world and that means that you have advantages and disadvantages against people that live in other countries. I life  from stock for over 11 years now in an expensive european country with an average all this years of 5k+, the good years much more. I will be playing till I can and when it is not more doable I will look for something else.

By the way "microstock stars" that come from very expensive countries and cities like Denmark,London,etc have adapted. If that means to go to Ukraine or Southafrica then be it. Now to pretend to live in London photographing beauty or food for microstock is a suicide if you ask me. 

ss is earning money..simply put there are more and more files and more nd more desperate contributors especially coming from russia and ukraine who upload zillions of files and the cake is simply spread...zero entry barrier and low cost make this possible.  micro apart one rare case i'd  say 100 200 big contributor will be just an hobby for all the rest.

Good for Russian and Ukraine contributors, if they work hard they deserve to be succesful at this game. Not like others that are always moaning about how hard life is because of others: ucranians,russians,the search engine, obscure agendas,bla bla bla.
Get your act together or pack you bags and go if you don't know how to swim in this sea.

ahh you don't understand the point....they work hard to earn 500 dollar because they can survive..im working pretty hard...im still working now friday at 2 o clock...the point is we are competing with people who pay zero   for shooting...probably even taxes in out cases and have cost of life 2 3 times less than us...but are paid in dollars and earn like us...is not possible to compete...


sorry what advantages?


« Reply #42 on: November 24, 2018, 09:27 »
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Its true!  SS  is collecting all the garbage under the sun! pics that normally would be thrown away are accepted all over the place.

If I had to choose one factor that is hurting SS the most it's this. 

nobody

« Reply #43 on: November 24, 2018, 09:34 »
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I wonder if SS should do what Dreamstime does- any image that doesn't sell in a time period is removed. Of course, if SS just didn't accept the poor image in the first place they wouldn't have to worry about cleaning it up!

« Reply #44 on: November 24, 2018, 09:43 »
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I wonder if SS should do what Dreamstime does- any image that doesn't sell in a time period is removed. Of course, if SS just didn't accept the poor image in the first place they wouldn't have to worry about cleaning it up!

Interestingly, I have not received an email from DT on "unsold images" in probably a year.

« Reply #45 on: November 24, 2018, 09:55 »
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I wonder if SS should do what Dreamstime does- any image that doesn't sell in a time period is removed. Of course, if SS just didn't accept the poor image in the first place they wouldn't have to worry about cleaning it up!

Interestingly, I have not received an email from DT on "unsold images" in probably a year.
Yep me too I realised the other day ;-)

« Reply #46 on: November 24, 2018, 09:57 »
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Its true!  SS  is collecting all the garbage under the sun! pics that normally would be thrown away are accepted all over the place.

If I had to choose one factor that is hurting SS the most it's this.
I agree and I suspect the sheer number of images is putting their IT under strain....my belief is they've fallen for the hype that "intellegent" search engines mean the rubbish will be hidden so deep no one need worry. I'd love to hear more from buyers about their experience.

derek

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« Reply #47 on: November 24, 2018, 10:12 »
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Its true!  SS  is collecting all the garbage under the sun! pics that normally would be thrown away are accepted all over the place.

If I had to choose one factor that is hurting SS the most it's this.
I agree and I suspect the sheer number of images is putting their IT under strain....my belief is they've fallen for the hype that "intellegent" search engines mean the rubbish will be hidden so deep no one need worry. I'd love to hear more from buyers about their experience.

Exactly!  but you know there are many kind of buyers you got the ordinary guy who just wants a webbie knows nothing about composition, photography etc and this kind of buyer dont care but then you have the creative buyer type ad-agency, art and creative AD and so forth, designers who demands quality and I can only speak of the ones I know personally, work with and have recommended an agency. They do not go to SS anymore, too time consuming they say, too much irrelevant material to pass. They also bookmark a picture for future ref's go back and because of the constan search-change they cant find it!...oh well...

« Reply #48 on: November 24, 2018, 11:48 »
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The hard truth is anyone can take a technically sound photo. A decent DSLR on full auto takes care of the exposure and focus for you and if you shoot in good light noise won't be an issue. TADA a photo SS will accept.

Hence the flood of snap shots coming into the SS collection. Unfortunately there has been a rash of free image sites crop up in recent years. Unsplash, pixabay, pxhere etc. etc. etc. all providing comparable quality images for free.

"Why download an image for free when you can get the same quality...FOR MONEY!" as a marketing strategy, doesn't work.

Those free sites won't go away and will only get bigger so the only way SS and the like can compete is to close the flood gate and curate a collection of high quality images you can't get for free. That and the liability insurance of having model and property releases.

SS is obsessed with having the largest collection in the universe though which has the side effect of making finding a good pic harder for buyers and if good enough is good enough and they don't care so much about releases, the free sites win.

ShadySue

« Reply #49 on: November 24, 2018, 13:21 »
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They also bookmark a picture for future ref's go back and because of the constan search-change they cant find it!...oh well...
So they bookmark a single picture, and when they try to get it again, the URI for that picture has changed:?
Run a mile from SS in that case. If that's really so, they have totally lost the plot.
(Though to be honest, I can't see how the 'constant search change' would mean a single bookmarked pic couldn't be found. That would have to be a deliberate URI change.)


 

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